Football team posts team record GPA for 2nd semester.....

[Goat Holder]

Article here.

Just something to think about when bashing on Croom for his character gun-wielders. Personally I think it's a great accomplishment, given that and the fact that we won last year and are still attracting talent. Guess Croom doesn't have the "woe-is-me" attitude that, ironically, all the to-the-death Jackie supporters seem to have.</p>

 

[Goat Holder]

Article here.

Just something to think about when bashing on Croom for his character gun-wielders. Personally I think it's a great accomplishment, given that and the fact that we won last year and are still attracting talent. Guess Croom doesn't have the "woe-is-me" attitude that, ironically, all the to-the-death Jackie supporters seem to have.</p>

 

[dawgstudent]

Congrats to the team.

 

[JacksonDevilDog]

Meanwhile in Oxford,

there are rumors of as many as 9 players not being elegible for football and a special ed kid is trying to get into Ole Miss for the third time.

Coach O,

"IM IN"

 

[Goat Holder]

nm</p>

 

[JacksonDevilDog]

I was looking at a thread over on the spirit recruiting site (yes I am a lurker) and the thread was talking about it.

 

[RebelBruiser]

but then again we signed 31 players in our last class with only 25 spots, so we're going to need at least 6 non-qualifiers, or we'll be grayshirting, must like last year when you signed 34 with only 26 spots.

I doubt we have 9 that don't qualify. We probably have 9 that are borderline, which means we'll be fine, probably have 1 or 2 grayshirts.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

He is already in. He's been in for a school year.

/he passed too

 

[BigMotherTucker]

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[Faustdog]

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That's one of my all time favorites.
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[oswalt41]

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[BillBraskyDOG]

I love it when sheep like optimus try to sneak that stuff in here.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

total sheep. I wasn't being sarcastic at all.

 

[BillBraskyDOG]

Yeah, definetly and Ole Miss fans dont come on this board all the time with fake indignation about making fun of Powe and his "learning disability". All sarcasm.</p>

 

[someonestolemyusernamedamnit]

Mainly because of the look he has on his face.

 

[someonestolemyusernamedamnit]

Thanks, Dwayne.

 

[TR.sixpack]

Or is only postive Ole Miss spoken here?

 

[Todd4State]

Mainly because of the look he has on his face.

</p>maybe because he played at Auburn and not Ole Miss.

Let the pissing contest begin!

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

if you find out, feel free to make fun of them if they don't make it.

 

[RebelBruiser]

and I think it was in reference to our recruiting class, though I think even that's a little exaggerated.

Right now, Strong is the only person we have on our current team who is definitely ineligible for the fall. I expecte we'll hear about a few more, but I doubt it'll be anywhere close to 9.

 

[Xenomorph]

...I was told 9 are ineligible from the current team. And since 20+ would have been ineligible had OM gone to a bowl (didn't pass at least 6 hours) I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that 9 didn't make it back.

 

[RebelBruiser]

...I was told 9 are ineligible from the current team. And since 20+ would have been ineligible had OM gone to a bowl (didn't pass at least 6 hours) I
don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that 9 didn't make it back.

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I agree with that, and I said it before that I thought Strong might only be the tip of the iceberg. However, if the rumor is that 9 will be ineligible in the fall, it probably means is that we have 9 that still have work to do. I'd be willing to bet we have at least a few more players ineligible for the fall, but my guess is it's going to be less than 9, probably 3 or 4 at most. The fact that the rumor is "only" 9 players makes me feel like our players are probably in better shape than I thought originally.

 

[Stormrider81]

He should go down as one of the worst hires in SEC history. The sad thing is people were going absolutely bananas over the guy in the spring and summer of 2005. Bumper stickers everywhere, reports of people getting in 3 point stances at the insistence of Orgeron at alumni gatherings, touting of recruiting rankings, etc. Now here we are 3 years later looking at a wasteland of ineligible players and a roster with little depth and lack of talent at certain positions.

3 funny things about the whole situation: 1) Ole Miss has ended up with what is essentially Cut part two. The inevitable question is how many 6-7 win seasons does he have before he's canned? 2) Orgeron is now raking in the bucks coaching with the Saints. Life is good for O. He cashes in nicely as an SEC coach and then gets into the NFL coaching fraternity, the biggest good ole boy system there is. He's set for life. 3) A guy he signed his first year at Ole Miss is still trying to gain permission from the NCAA to suit up and play football there. Orgeron, you will be missed.

 

[RebelBruiser]

One thing I'll say for Nutt that gives him an advantage over Cutcliffe is that he's following Orgeron and 4 losing seasons and lowered expectations. Cutcliffe followed the 2nd best coach in Ole Miss history, Tubberville, who had built the expectations of the program to a higher level. Tubberville's the one that came in talking about winning a national championship and basically changed the line of thinking for the Ole Miss fanbase. Hence, when Cutcliffe failed to take Tubby's players and do more than a couple lower tier bowl games, the fanbase slowly turned on him, especially after Eli graduated.

Nutt is inheriting a team coming off 4 straight losing seasons and a fanbase that's been beaten down by losing, much like yours over the previous 6 seasons. Hence, if he comes in and puts together a few bowl seasons, he'll be appreciated for it, even if they are lower tier bowls.

I still say that any fanbase will get tired of lower tier bowls if that's all you are getting consistently. Eventually you'll start asking why you can't achieve more. Your fanbase will do the same with Croom if he takes you to 4 or 5 straight seasons of going to the Independence, Liberty, Papa John's, Music City bowls. Eventually, you'll start asking if he can take it to the next level.

 

[SoxFan343]

He just pretty much quit. Its pretty much impossible to be "already ineligible" considering that they have two intersessions and two semesters of summer school to go. You can put up 18 hours worth of classes. Unless you make straight F's and a maybe a coupld D's in the fall and spring, you can pull yourself up in the summer.

 

[Stormrider81]

Take a look at the 90's. We played in one NYD bowl, and we got blown out of the state of Texas in that one. Yet, even though we only went to middling bowls aside from that one example and we only won two of them Jackie was basically worshipped. Sure, there were a few "what could have been" thoughts in '99 and 2000 but State fans were still very pleased with winning.

 

[Goat Holder]

because we are exactly like Ole Miss fans.

Or he could just making himself feel better about the current state of the each program.

I'll bet on the latter.

 

[rebelrouseri]

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[patdog]

but it's never been a New Year's Day bowl. Personally, I've thought for a long time that it's been a very under-rated bowl. But the current format (ACC #2/3 vs SEC #4/5 with the ACC getting a bigger paycheck) sucks. They really need to get that changed.

 

[dawgstudent]

in 92 and 94. I think it was January 2nd before the big bowls are now played over a 14 week span.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Yes, the Peach is considered to be almost on the same plane as the Outback. It's not a traditional New Year's Day Bowl, but it's a much better bowl than the Music City/Liberty/Indy/Papa John's level bowls. In reality, the Indy and Papa John's bowls fall another tier below the Music City/Liberty.

Regardless, I still think that if you were to go to those 4 lower tier bowls consistently, your fanbase would eventually start to wonder when something more might come.

Under Sherrill, you went to 3 Peach Bowls and a Cotton Bowl, and you only had 3 losing seasons in his first 10 years as coach, so he did have some decent bowl trips mixed in periodically, not just a bunch of lower tier bowls. You're right that I don't know how MSU's fanbase would react if you had a string of lower tier bowls, but then again, you've never had a string of lower tier bowl appearances.

This was our string:
1997: Motor City
1998: Independence
1999: Independence
2000: Music City
2001: stayed home at 7-4
2002: Independence
2003: Cotton

That was 6 years in a row where we finished the regular season with either 6 or 7 wins. Once you've experienced those kind of seasons enough, you start to wonder when you're going to make the next step. I'm pretty sure that if Croom were to put together six straight seasons of 6 or 7 regular season wins, you'd have fans getting restless as well. For that matter, you already have fans talking about Croom's process in building your team to a championship level. If you reach a certain point in that process and stagnate for long enough, your fans will get restless.

 

[patdog]

Yes, the Peach is considered to be almost on the same plane as the Outback.

Tell that to all the Gene's Pagers who were boycotting Outback Steakhouse after that bowl passed us up for a Georgia team with a worse record back in 1999.

Just kidding. I do agree that the Peach is a much, much better bowl than the Motor City, Indy & Music City bowls y'all went to from 97 to 02.</p>

 

[gdogg]

if Ole Miss could have just added a Peach to that run, they would have hung another National Championship Banner.
I mean, Tubberville came in "talking" National Championship, that alone counts for something at UM.</p>

 

[Goat Holder]

oh, and that little game in Atlanta.

 

[RebelBruiser]

I can read the media guide too Goat. I was just listing the upper tier bowls Sherrill went to while at State to prove that it was a different situation.