Freddie Kitchens calling plays

[TheRev]

I know there has been plenty of discussion about if Satterfield was calling plays on Saturday or not. I know Shane said he "called" every single play but leads me to questions; was Freddie Kitchens actually calling the plays and Satterfield was relaying those plays to Rattler???

 

[18IsTheMan]

First, nobody here has any idea. We could speculate all day about it. That said, no. Satterfield was calling the plays.

I'll dump on him when the offense is pathetic. But he earns the praise when it looks like it did Saturday.

 

[TheRev]

I just don't understand where this type of offense has been all year and why would you wait until the 11th game of the year to change it up??? Had we played like that against Florida, Missouri and Arkansas, we would easily have 1 loss and that would be Georgia.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I just don't understand where this type of offense has been all year and why would you wait until the 11th game of the year to change it up??? Had we played like that against Florida, Missouri and Arkansas, we would easily have 1 loss and that would be Georgia.

Well, that's a legitimate question, and one that many of us have been asking most of the season in reference back to the bowl game. Notably, though, it's concerning that it took 11 games for us to try something different. For now, I'll chalk up to stubbornness on Satterfield's part. We'll have to see what transpires going forward in the next 2 games.

 

[TheRev]

Well, that's a legitimate question, and one that many of us have been asking most of the season in reference back to the bowl game. Notably, though, it's concerning that it took 11 games for us to try something different. For now, I'll chalk up to stubbornness on Satterfield's part. We'll have to see what transpires going forward in the next 2 games.

Yeah I can see stubbornness being a part of it and pride but if you're willing to allow it to potentially cost you your job, I just don't get it. The way our offense was Saturday, should have been how it was after the Arkansas game. We shall see what the next 2 games hold for us.

 

[GamecockMike]

I think a few things went into the way the game played out. It’s a rivalry game,maybe a little revenge on Marcus’s injury played into it.(on a side note,kinda spooky on how their player got hurt like Marcus did,what’s the chances that happens?) I think maybe Beamer told Satterfield to cut back on the grouping’s and play the best players.Vols was expecting the same ole offense that was all year and didn’t know how to adjust when it was different? This is my take and probably wrong on all accounts(except rivalry and payback) but just my theory.

 

[muscleknight]

A grad student up in the box looked at the play list and based on what he saw made "recommendation" to Satt who then "approved" it and sent the play in. So Satt technically called the plays LOL

 

[Prestonyte]

Lots of discussion on sports talk radio about how the play calling for TN game could have been made by the same OC who called the other 10 games? Not making sense to a lot of folks.

 

[Go Gamecocks]

A grad student up in the box looked at the play list and based on what he saw made "recommendation" to Satt who then "approved" it and sent the play in. So Satt technically called the plays LOL

 

[Lurker123]

Well, that's a legitimate question, and one that many of us have been asking most of the season in reference back to the bowl game. Notably, though, it's concerning that it took 11 games for us to try something different. For now, I'll chalk up to stubbornness on Satterfield's part. We'll have to see what transpires going forward in the next 2 games.

I would have pointed to the poor defense of UT as a major contributor, but we've played poor defenses before.

 

[Spinal Tap]

Lots of discussion on sports talk radio about how the play calling for TN game could have been made by the same OC who called the other 10 games? Not making sense to a lot of folks.

He had an epiphany caused by job insecurity?

 

[Mauze1]

Well, that's a legitimate question, and one that many of us have been asking most of the season in reference back to the bowl game. Notably, though, it's concerning that it took 11 games for us to try something different. For now, I'll chalk up to stubbornness on Satterfield's part. We'll have to see what transpires going forward in the next 2 games.

Sorry but I did not see any plays different from what we have been running all year. It might just be me. What were the “something different” plays or formations?

 

[Lurker123]

Sorry but I did not see any plays different from what we have been running all year. It might just be me. What were the “something different” plays or formations?

There's two different things being talked about, imo. Physically different plays, and calling plays at different times/points of the game or drives.

 

[DrMickeySC]

I know there are times the offense has been absolutely horrible. The week before, for example. As another poster said, if Satt gets the blame for every time we lay an egg, he deserves credit here, too.

But I will give a lot of credit to Beamer. If Satterfield is as stubborn as we all think, but he actually knows offense (as indicated by the UT game), then I give credit to Beamer for making the offense what HE wanted. Of course, he should have done that before now. But that’s a risk of young coaches. If Beamer figured out how to lead in tough situations, we will all be better because of it.

Now…about that Clemson game. Good lord I’m tired of losing to them. But I’m not expecting a perfect offensive game again. Mostly because Clemson’s D is still really good. If we can just “hold serve” as they say in tennis, I like our chances. Clearly, we didn’t against Florida. Hope we can this week.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

I know there has been plenty of discussion about if Satterfield was calling plays on Saturday or not. I know Shane said he "called" every single play but leads me to questions; was Freddie Kitchens actually calling the plays and Satterfield was relaying those plays to Rattler???

Are you calling Beamer a liar?

 

[Prestonyte]

Sorry but I did not see any plays different from what we have been running all year. It might just be me. What were the “something different” plays or formations?

Throwing the ball downfield on routes more than 10 yds off the line of scrimmage was the main difference. Opened up the run game and did not allow TN to jam the line of scrimmage. Passing plays run on 1st down instead of opening every drive with a run between the tackles. If Beamer gave Satt an ultimatum, then hats off to Shane.

 

[Prestonyte]

I know there has been plenty of discussion about if Satterfield was calling plays on Saturday or not. I know Shane said he "called" every single play but leads me to questions; was Freddie Kitchens actually calling the plays and Satterfield was relaying those plays to Rattler???

As in all professions, especially coaching, "managers" will cover for their friends using technicalities so they don't have to lie.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Throwing the ball downfield on routes more than 10 yds off the line of scrimmage was the main difference. Opened up the run game and did not allow TN to jam the line of scrimmage. Passing plays run on 1st down instead of opening every drive with a run between the tackles. If Beamer gave Satt an ultimatum, then hats off to Shane.

We had plays called downfield before. But when the Dline is in the backfield immediately, there is no time for routes to develop.

It was all about the Oline. Rattler had time, and now we see what this offense can look like with good oline play.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

As in all professions, especially coaching, "managers" will cover for their friends using technicalities so they don't have to lie.

Zero evidence that any of this is anything other than complete fiction.

 

[Prestonyte]

We had plays called downfield before. But when the Dline is in the backfield immediately, there is no time for routes to develop.

It was all about the Oline. Rattler had time, and now we see what this offense can look like with good oline play.

Oline is the responsibility of the OC and his line coach for every game.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Oline is the responsibility of the OC and his line coach for every game.

Sure it is. But lets not pretend it's all Xs and Os and give no blame or credit to the jimmys and joes. If it was completely on the coaches and scheme, a game like Tennessee wouldn't have happened. Bad oline play is nothing new here.

 

[Lurker123]

As in all professions, especially coaching, "managers" will cover for their friends using technicalities so they don't have to lie.

There is literally a term called "coachspeak" that covers this without having to call people liars. It's normal, it happens at every program.

 

[Lurker123]

Oline is the responsibility of the OC and his line coach for every game.

Well, Satterfield works with all the units, so he just got around to the OL this week.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Maybe it was Santa Claus. He's got a really big bag for plays.

Just as much evidence it was Santa as it was anybody else other than Satt.

 

[Rogue Cock]

Sure it is. But lets not pretend it's all Xs and Os and give no blame or credit to the jimmys and joes. If it was completely on the coaches and scheme, a game like Tennessee wouldn't have happened. Bad oline play is nothing new here.

It is the scheme...not just the plays necessarily. From my understanding, in the true pro-style offense, each play has variations to address what the defense is doing. Each variation requires a read not only by the QB but also by the linemen and recievers and they have to know the scheme so well that they are all on the same page as to which variation is being used....if they aren't on the same page, one lineman can be blocking using one blocking scheme and another can be using a different scheme.....that spells disaster. Same is true with the QB and recievers. By taking all the variations out....you take out the indecisiveness andno simply run the play as called. The o line is not bad, they have talent....they simply were running too complicated a scheme for this level of football.

 

[Rogue Cock]

Zero evidence that any of this is anything other than complete fiction.

ZERO? How about the previous 10 games versus the UT game?

 

[kickenchicken70]

 

[Lurker123]

It is the scheme...not just the plays necessarily. From my understanding, in the true pro-style offense, each play has variations to address what the defense is doing. Each variation requires a read not only by the QB but also by the linemen and recievers and they have to know the scheme so well that they are all on the same page as to which variation is being used....if they aren't on the same page, one lineman can be blocking using one blocking scheme and another can be using a different scheme.....that spells disaster. Same is true with the QB and recievers. By taking all the variations out....you take out the indecisiveness andno simply run the play as called. The o line is not bad, they have talent....they simply were running too complicated a scheme for this level of football.

Good explanation. Too many times people say "simplify things", and I get the impression not everyone has the same idea of what that means.

 

[Prestonyte]

Sure it is. But lets not pretend it's all Xs and Os and give no blame or credit to the jimmys and joes. If it was completely on the coaches and scheme, a game like Tennessee wouldn't have happened. Bad oline play is nothing new here.

Well, Satterfield works with all the units, so he just got around to the OL this week.

If that's the case, he should have flipped that switch many games ago.

 

[Lurker123]

If that's the case, he should have flipped that switch many games ago.

Not disagreeing at all. My comment was in jest.

 

[Prestonyte]

Not disagreeing at all. My comment was in jest.

I know, that was for the meme queen while agreeing with your comment.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

ZERO? How about the previous 10 games versus the UT game?

That's not "evidence" of anything.

Beamer emphatically told you absolutely, without a doubt, who was calling every single play and said that rumors of someone else calling them were "the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard".

There is no vagueness. There is no coach-speak. 100% clear, unless you are calling Beamer a liar.

 

[Rogue Cock]

That's not "evidence" of anything.

Beamer emphatically told you absolutely, without a doubt, who was calling every single play and said that rumors of someone else calling them were "the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard".

There is no vagueness. There is no coach-speak. 100% clear, unless you are calling Beamer a liar.

Believe what you wish. The world isn't as black and white as you try to make it.....lots of shades of grey in between.

And it is "evidence"....there are a lot of different types of evidence....prior actions and historical precedence are among them. Evidence 101.

Here's a good book for you: https://books.google.com/books/about/Evidentiary_Foundations.html?id=9AxGAQAAIAAJ

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Believe what you wish. The world isn't as black and white as you try to make it.....lots of shades of grey in between.

And it is "evidence"....there are a lot of different types of evidence....prior actions and historical precedence are among them. Evidence 101.

Here's a good book for you: https://books.google.com/books/about/Evidentiary_Foundations.html?id=9AxGAQAAIAAJ

Listen, I already spend WAY too much time on here arguing with the dumbest of the dumbest fans in college football. I can't take on another.

Believe what you want. Don't rule out my Santa theory. You never know. I mean, he sees everything, so I suspect he is good at reading defenses. LOL.

 

[Tngamecock]

Are you calling Beamer a liar?

It seems to be easier these days than to accept reality. He’s probably not calling Beamer a liar. He just wants to control the narrative. That’s what people do these days I guess.

 

[Rogue Cock]

Listen, I already spend WAY too much time on here arguing with the dumbest of the dumbest fans in college football. I can't take on another.

Believe what you want. Don't rule out my Santa theory. You never know. I mean, he see's everything, so I suspect he is good at reading defenses. LOL.

Et tu, Brute!

And once again, when you find yourself unable to respond to the point at issue, you resort to ad hominem attacks....the refuge of.......(I'll let you figure that one out).

 

[KingWard]

Oline is the responsibility of the OC and his line coach for every game.

Our O-Line coach has had medical issues going back to last year and hasn't been available this year, at least not to travel. They are using a surrogate there. I'm not seeing that as a strength.

 

[Prestonyte]

Our O-Line coach has had medical issues going back to last year and hasn't been available this year, at least not to travel. They are using a surrogate there. I'm not seeing that as a strength.

Was he just back for the TN game? If so, he's a keeper.

 

[GoCocksFight2021]

Et tu, Brute!

And once again, when you find yourself unable to respond to the point at issue, you resort to ad hominem attacks....the refuge of.......(I'll let you figure that one out).

Maybe Satt took the vaccine, and maybe Beamer called in a favor from Lincoln Riley, and maybe Riley beamed the plays directly into Satt's head thru 5G.

It's a conspiracy!!!!!!!! LOL

 

[b.wun]

Ok, since it is out there, I will come clean. It was me who hacked into Satt's headset and helped him call plays.
You're welcome.