Friday’s Hawaii Bowl Canceled

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The policies implemented over the last couple of years are literally killing off the game now. Any reported symptomatic or hospitalizations?

Hawaii's students are over 92% vaxxed at their 10 campuses, staff over 95%. I'd guess football is at least as high. So why the big outbreak amongst an almost entirely vaxxed team? Why is there no faith that the vaccinated positives will not be safe despite public claims that the vaccine prevents the worst outcomes? It's almost like they say one thing but do the opposite. Are vaxxed safe or not? Are vaxxed spreading covid or not?
 

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The policies implemented over the last couple of years are literally killing off the game now. Any reported symptomatic or hospitalizations?

Hawaii's students are over 92% vaxxed at their 10 campuses, staff over 95%. I'd guess football is at least as high. So why the big outbreak amongst an almost entirely vaxxed team? Why is there no faith that the vaccinated positives will not be safe despite public claims that the vaccine prevents the worst outcomes? It's almost like they say one thing but do the opposite. Are vaxxed safe or not? Are vaxxed spreading covid or not?
I don't think the game is suffering when coaches are being paid tremendous amounts to coach a college team. Attendance this fall seemed to be in line with prior years. Television contracts for broadcasting are only going up. If there is freedom to not get a shot there is freedom to not play a game.
 
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I don't think the game is suffering when coaches are being paid tremendous amounts to coach a college team. Attendance this fall seemed to be in line with prior years. Television contracts for broadcasting are only going up. If there is freedom to not get a shot there is freedom to not play a game.
Fine, don't play the games then. Their freedom of choice. What are the ratings for canceled games? How much revenue do canceled games bring in?
 

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Fine, don't play the games then. Their freedom of choice. What are the ratings for canceled games? How much revenue do canceled games bring in?
Just pointing out that evidence suggests a decision by a team not to play a bowl game in the face of a pandemic is not "killing" the game. Of course there are implications for not playing. We should assume Hawaii determined there were implications for going forward with the game and chose not to. While we can debate that decision, I seriously doubt it is killing the game. Major league baseball and professional hockey stopped seasons completely over collective bargaining and survived. Rest assured college football will continue to thrive once we get through this.
 

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Just pointing out that evidence suggests a decision by a team not to play a bowl game in the face of a pandemic is not "killing" the game. Of course there are implications for not playing. We should assume Hawaii determined there were implications for going forward with the game and chose not to. While we can debate that decision, I seriously doubt it is killing the game. Major league baseball and professional hockey stopped seasons completely over collective bargaining and survived. Rest assured college football will continue to thrive once we get through this.
Yes, good point. It hasn't yet killed the game. A couple more years of on again off again with threat of shut downs may. But it's still kicking for now, maybe just maimed.

It feels weird saying a couple more years of this but I never thought they'd be shutting things down on again off again for 2 years either.
 

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Just pointing out that evidence suggests a decision by a team not to play a bowl game in the face of a pandemic is not "killing" the game. Of course there are implications for not playing. We should assume Hawaii determined there were implications for going forward with the game and chose not to. While we can debate that decision, I seriously doubt it is killing the game. Major league baseball and professional hockey stopped seasons completely over collective bargaining and survived. Rest assured college football will continue to thrive once we get through this.

Point taken, Peach, but who says we're getting through this? I say COVID is here to stay, as are higher crime rates. Get used to it. Along with inflation it's bound to change the business model. Less discretionary income means less discretionary spending. When it's a decision between eating or attending the game people will choose the former. Globalization is finally catching up to Americans.
 
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Just pointing out that evidence suggests a decision by a team not to play a bowl game in the face of a pandemic is not "killing" the game. Of course there are implications for not playing. We should assume Hawaii determined there were implications for going forward with the game and chose not to. While we can debate that decision, I seriously doubt it is killing the game. Major league baseball and professional hockey stopped seasons completely over collective bargaining and survived. Rest assured college football will continue to thrive once we get through this.
Agreed. If I have learned anything from this pandemic, it's that humans, and especially, Americans, don't always get what you want. It's time to adapt when necessary, and move forward stronger and better because of it. Life is what happens to you while you are busy making other plans - John Lennon
 
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