Friend of mine was in the Air Force…

[dawgstudent]

And a group was discussing NIL.

1. Can military personnel receive NIL money? The answer is no.
2. They can transfer and essentially quit the military up through the end of sophomore year. To start as a junior in college, you must sign on the dotted line and commit as enlisted in the military for X number of years.

So all of the academy juniors and seniors will be 3 and 4 year players for their respective academy. No one can or will transfer into Army, Navy, and Air force as a junior or senior. They basically don’t play the NIL game or the portal game. They may lose some to the portal but only sophomores.

As one of my friends said, I find this incredibly interesting and hope that they win a lot of games because of it.

 

[Shmuley]

And a group was discussing NIL.

1. Can military personnel receive NIL money? The answer is no. 2. They can transfer and essentially quit the military up through the end of sophomore year. To start as a junior in college, you must sign on the dotted line and commit as enlisted in the military for X number of years.

So all of the academy juniors and seniors will be 3 and 4 year players for their respective academy. No one can or will transfer into Army, Navy, and Air force as a junior or senior. They basically don’t play the NIL game or the portal game. They may lose some to the portal but only sophomores.


As one of my friends said, I find this incredibly interesting and hope that they win a lot of games because of it.

I may become a more-than-casual fan of the service academies for no other reason than this.

 

[DerHntr]

Having a one-way portal out of the university is just like MSU football**

They have a 5 year post graduation obligation to serve in the military. There is a 6 figure fine if they try to get out of it. Also, incoming cadets must start as plebes and complete the entire curriculum, regardless of their previous academic experience. This is why no one transfers in after sophomore year. They would be starting as freshman again.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

You're talking about a different breed of student too, that attends the service academies.

I think we can learn a lot from them at MSU as far as football. It's discipline, discipline, discipline and reps, reps, reps. Mullen and Leach were onto something with that. We're not going to compete with NIL, and we're not going to get the best players. Now, obviously we cannot run the pure triple option, and we obviously have to pay SOME NIL - we're in the damned SEC after all. But some type of consistent plan, and some baseline NIL/stipend across the board for all players, would be beneficial to us and put us going against the grain. We can't do the free agent thing yearly. Bottom line, MSU football wouldn't be for everybody.

 

[patdog]

You're talking about a different breed of student too, that attends the service academies.

I think we can learn a lot from them at MSU as far as football. It's discipline, discipline, discipline and reps, reps, reps. Mullen and Leach were onto something with that. We're not going to compete with NIL, and we're not going to get the best players. Now, obviously we cannot run the pure triple option, and we obviously have to pay SOME NIL - we're in the damned SEC after all. But some type of consistent plan, and some baseline NIL/stipend across the board for all players, would be beneficial to us and put us going against the grain. We can't do the free agent thing yearly. Bottom line, MSU football wouldn't be for everybody.

You're also talking about being set for life with a very good career path in the military, and generally a lot of good options in the private sector if you want to leave after your commitment is up. It's a hell of a deal if you can get in and endure it.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

1. The AF is not the military. 2. Very few players on the AFA football team are recruited by a SEC team, not even Vandy. 3. Cadets are a different kind of cat, they are not comparable to a regular college student.

 

[Anon1719600787]

And a group was discussing NIL.

1. Can military personnel receive NIL money? The answer is no.
2. They can transfer and essentially quit the military up through the end of sophomore year. To start as a junior in college, you must sign on the dotted line and commit as enlisted in the military for X number of years.

So all of the academy juniors and seniors will be 3 and 4 year players for their respective academy. No one can or will transfer into Army, Navy, and Air force as a junior or senior. They basically don’t play the NIL game or the portal game. They may lose some to the portal but only sophomores.

As one of my friends said, I find this incredibly interesting and hope that they win a lot of games because of it.

Cadets do get paid an average of $134,000 per year (https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/army-officer-cadet-salary-SRCH_KO0,18.htm)

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

Cadets do get paid an average of $134,000 per year (https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/army-officer-cadet-salary-SRCH_KO0,18.htm)

That’s for commissioned officers who have graduated the Academy, ROTC, OTS, etc. Cadets get roughly $2k-ish/month and some of that goes for uniforms, books, etc. @Barkman Turner Overdrive is a retired Lt. Col and is rolling in dough.

 

[RocketDawg]

And a group was discussing NIL.

1. Can military personnel receive NIL money? The answer is no.
2. They can transfer and essentially quit the military up through the end of sophomore year. To start as a junior in college, you must sign on the dotted line and commit as enlisted in the military for X number of years.

So all of the academy juniors and seniors will be 3 and 4 year players for their respective academy. No one can or will transfer into Army, Navy, and Air force as a junior or senior. They basically don’t play the NIL game or the portal game. They may lose some to the portal but only sophomores.

As one of my friends said, I find this incredibly interesting and hope that they win a lot of games because of it.

Don't they make an exception for athletes regarding military commitment after graduation? I.e., Roger Staubach could have gone to the NFL if he graduated today.

 

[DerHntr]

Don't they make an exception for athletes regarding military commitment after graduation? I.e., Roger Staubach could have gone to the NFL if he graduated today.

Yes they allow you to defer if you go pro, but you are still obligated to do your 5 years. A federal rule changed in 2022 to require 2 years of service before going pro. I haven’t seen if anyone tested that change yet.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

You're talking about a different breed of student too, that attends the service academies.

I think we can learn a lot from them at MSU as far as football. It's discipline, discipline, discipline and reps, reps, reps. Mullen and Leach were onto something with that. We're not going to compete with NIL, and we're not going to get the best players. Now, obviously we cannot run the pure triple option, and we obviously have to pay SOME NIL - we're in the damned SEC after all. But some type of consistent plan, and some baseline NIL/stipend across the board for all players, would be beneficial to us and put us going against the grain. We can't do the free agent thing yearly. Bottom line, MSU football wouldn't be for everybody.

I think discipline and toughness are key. It was missing with Moorhead for sure and with Arnett we had nothing. Leach was disciplined and well trained and had a system much like military of a repetitive well oiled machine although stubborn at times. Mullen was all about toughness discipline and adapting. Except when he didn't and that's when it didn't go well. See Holloway up the middle. Lebby seems tough and we don't seem undisciplined to what I see, I just see coaches that aren't mentally tough and not good at training guys to be in the right place nor how to call things to be in the right place. I also don't see the "strain" from our players playing with intensity and physicality. That is a reflection in the staff and the strength and conditioning program. Need a crazy sob coaching that. Then need a coach that demands physicality, toughness, and perfection. Sometimes you need an a hole for a coach no matter if the people in the Bryan building thinks they are an arse.

 

[onewoof]

1. The AF is not the military. 2. Very few players on the AFA football team are recruited by a SEC team, not even Vandy. 3. Cadets are a different kind of cat, they are not comparable to a regular college student.

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