FSU vs LSU, anyone see Cain on the sideline?

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Cain hasn't carried the ball when I've been watching.

Hope the PSU staff is watching this game. FSU's OL doesn't seem to be blowing anyone off the line yet their play calling so far is picking up first downs and putting together long drives, eating up the clock.
 

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Cain hasn't carried the ball when I've been watching.

Hope the PSU staff is watching this game. FSU's OL doesn't seem to be blowing anyone off the line yet their play calling so far is picking up first downs and putting together long drives, eating up the clock.
pretty sure I saw him with a carry and the mention of "the Penn State transfer"
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Cain hasn't carried the ball when I've been watching.

Hope the PSU staff is watching this game. FSU's OL doesn't seem to be blowing anyone off the line yet their play calling so far is picking up first downs and putting together long drives, eating up the clock.

but but chunk plays. We want chunk plays, not drives
 
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Cain hasn't carried the ball when I've been watching.

Hope the PSU staff is watching this game. FSU's OL doesn't seem to be blowing anyone off the line yet their play calling so far is picking up first downs and putting together long drives, eating up the clock.
Unlike PSU, FSU pulls Guards and Tackles to create OL imbalances.

I’ve watched a lot of CFB this weekend. The one thing that stood out to me is that the teams capable of running the ball all shift/pull OL in order to do so

PSU? No. They try to run the ball with the 5 OL men trying to straight block the opposing DL.

This is all on Franklin. He’s the common denominator among PSU’s years of a woeful running game coupled with a revolving door of OC’s.

Even ODU, under Rahne, was pulling and shifting OL-men like a Craig Cirbus line. Was RR allowed to do this at PSU? No.

PSU’s woes are all related to Franklin.

The new AD has a difficult job.
 
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I somehow missed his first rush (and his second typing this); he's been a blocker on pass plays is all that I've seen.

He's getting some rushes this drive. He doesn't look like '19 Noah, but he seems more head of steam and fall forward than '21 Noah.

TD Cain.
 

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Unlike PSU, FSU pulls Guards and Tackles to create OL imbalances.

I’ve watched a lot of CFB this weekend. The one thing that stood out to me is that the teams capable of running the ball all shift/pull OL in order to do so

PSU? No. They try to run the ball with the 5 OL men trying to straight block the opposing DL.

This is all on Franklin. He’s the common denominator among PSU’s years of a woeful running game coupled with a revolving door of OC’s.

Even ODU, under Rahne, was pulling and shifting OL-men like a Craig Cirbus line. PSU’s woes are all Franklin.

The new AD has a difficult job.
You might want to go back and rewatch the game PSU ran many plays w the OL pulling. They ran their outside zone w a pin and pull scheme. They ran their trapping game

that said you can have a good run game without anyone ever pulling
Go back and watch OSU v ND. OSU took over when they pounded the ball w their zone run game. No pulling w that
 

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Unlike PSU, FSU pulls Guards and Tackles to create OL imbalances.

I’ve watched a lot of CFB this weekend. The one thing that stood out to me is that the teams capable of running the ball all shift/pull OL in order to do so

PSU? No. They try to run the ball with the 5 OL men trying to straight block the opposing DL.

This is all on Franklin. He’s the common denominator among PSU’s years of a woeful running game coupled with a revolving door of OC’s.

Even ODU, under Rahne, was pulling and shifting OL-men like a Craig Cirbus line. Was RR allowed to do this at PSU? No.

PSU’s woes are all related to Franklin.

The new AD has a difficult job.
Good post. Other than the fact that it’s all factually incorrect, and your conclusions based off those false premises are completely wrong. Other than that, you nailed it.
 

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Unlike PSU, FSU pulls Guards and Tackles to create OL imbalances.

I’ve watched a lot of CFB this weekend. The one thing that stood out to me is that the teams capable of running the ball all shift/pull OL in order to do so

PSU? No. They try to run the ball with the 5 OL men trying to straight block the opposing DL.

This is all on Franklin. He’s the common denominator among PSU’s years of a woeful running game coupled with a revolving door of OC’s.

Even ODU, under Rahne, was pulling and shifting OL-men like a Craig Cirbus line. Was RR allowed to do this at PSU? No.

PSU’s woes are all related to Franklin.

The new AD has a difficult job.
You aren’t watching too closely. PSU regularly pulls centers and guards depending on play
 

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I think Football Gods interceded, With that mobile QB, should have gone for two from the left hash.....
 

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LSU had tons of MOMENTUM having just driven those 99 yds. Absolutely should have gone for 2pts…..especially since they had already had a FG blocked earlier in the game, the extra pt wasn’t such a sure thing!
 
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He did okay. Glad to see Kelly lose his first LSU game.
not a BK fan, but did not like seeing them lose that way. to go 99 yds in 2 min is amazing, and then not be able execute a simple XTPT was mind blowing.

Noah Cain took a little PSU tough officiating with him. He had to score TD twice. They blow the whistle for replay AFTER he scores. Then D rests and hydrates during long replay. He has to score again. Thought that could only happen in a PSU uni. Officials were doing it right, but letting the play go and then blow it dead for replay is a PSU zebra curse. The vodoo dolls must have traveled in Noah's bags to Baton Rouge.
 
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LSU had tons of MOMENTUM having just driven those 99 yds. Absolutely should have gone for 2pts…..especially since they had already had a FG blocked earlier in the game, the extra pt wasn’t such a sure thing!
Typically you wouldn't. At home, momentum... take the tie and win in OT.

But the blocked FG lingers in memory... and they were on such a momentum high that maybe that is the point you take the shot. Hard to fault any coach for playing the odds... much as I can't stand BK (last I checked he didn't kick the PAT lol)
 

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He did okay. Glad to see Kelly lose his first LSU game.
He looked just like last year’s Cain to me. Apparently the starter is out for 2 weeks so they did RB by committee. I love when dudes xfer just to be 2nd string at their new team(s)
 

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Unlike PSU, FSU pulls Guards and Tackles to create OL imbalances.

I’ve watched a lot of CFB this weekend. The one thing that stood out to me is that the teams capable of running the ball all shift/pull OL in order to do so

PSU? No. They try to run the ball with the 5 OL men trying to straight block the opposing DL.

This is all on Franklin. He’s the common denominator among PSU’s years of a woeful running game coupled with a revolving door of OC’s.

Even ODU, under Rahne, was pulling and shifting OL-men like a Craig Cirbus line. Was RR allowed to do this at PSU? No.

PSU’s woes are all related to Franklin.

The new AD has a difficult job.
You must not watch the game too closely. I saw pulling linemen on a number of plays, such as the attached

 

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You must not watch the game too closely. I saw pulling linemen on a number of plays, such as the attached


Do you have any clips of inside runs (as in inside the space defined by where the Tackles originally line up) involving either G or T pulls?

What you shared is equivalent to “student body right” on a pitch toss or screen pass. 🤷🏼‍♂️🙄
 
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Do you have any clips of inside runs (as in inside the space defined by where the Tackles originally line up) involving either G or T pulls?

What you shared is equivalent to “student body right” on a pitch toss or screen pass. 🤷🏼‍♂️🙄

Go watch the game for yourself (for the first time).

Second offensive series, with Singleton in, they ran a play similar to the one already shown to you, to the outside, and later in the drive, the RG pulls and Singleton goes right up the middle (right through where the center lined up).

So, you came in here with yet another uneducated and, as usual, incorrect bashing of Franklin. People who actually watched the game (unlike you) told you that you were wrong. People showed you that you were wrong. And now, rather than apologizing for being the crazed anti-Franklin guy you are, just making up lies with which to attack him, you're trying to move the goalposts. And you're STILL wrong!

Your actual record of futility and incompetence is much worse than even your imaginary portrayal of Franklin. You're a special talent.

Tom should make you say 100 Hail Franklins to allow you to continue posting here ...

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Kiss it.
 

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Do you have any clips of inside runs (as in inside the space defined by where the Tackles originally line up) involving either G or T pulls?

What you shared is equivalent to “student body right” on a pitch toss or screen pass. 🤷🏼‍♂️🙄
What is the obsession w OG pulls??
 
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There were rumors that Cain suffered a lisfranc foot injury vs Indiana a few years ago - if true, not many athletes have returned to full form following that injury, it's something that seems to really linger. Cain was never the same after that injury.

NBA top-3 pick Chet Holmgren just suffered the same injury, which is why OKC is playing his recovery timeline so carefully, especially with a 7-footer.
 

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Do you have any clips of inside runs (as in inside the space defined by where the Tackles originally line up) involving either G or T pulls?

What you shared is equivalent to “student body right” on a pitch toss or screen pass. 🤷🏼‍♂️🙄
yup I do, but so what? you dont need to pull anyone to have an effective run games. I wish they didnt pull anyone, but here is the guard and the TE pulling and a run up the middle, they run this play more than once....

 
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Unlike PSU, FSU pulls Guards and Tackles to create OL imbalances.

I’ve watched a lot of CFB this weekend. The one thing that stood out to me is that the teams capable of running the ball all shift/pull OL in order to do so

PSU? No. They try to run the ball with the 5 OL men trying to straight block the opposing DL.

This is all on Franklin. He’s the common denominator among PSU’s years of a woeful running game coupled with a revolving door of OC’s.

Even ODU, under Rahne, was pulling and shifting OL-men like a Craig Cirbus line. Was RR allowed to do this at PSU? No.

PSU’s woes are all related to Franklin.

The new AD has a difficult job.
Playing straight up when you dont have the most dominant O-lineman man-to-man to do that ;( SMH

Your point is incredibly valid---remember the first play of the Michigan game when Barkley and Trace shifted albeit in the backfield? Well that shift made the LBs shift and the misdirect play was a HR!

You would think JF would allow his coaches to throw in a few wrinkles to help our running game.....Great post!
 

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Playing straight up when you dont have the most dominant O-lineman man-to-man to do that ;( SMH

Your point is incredibly valid---remember the first play of the Michigan game when Barkley and Trace shifted albeit in the backfield? Well that shift made the LBs shift and the misdirect play was a HR!

You would think JF would allow his coaches to throw in a few wrinkles to help our running game.....Great post!
Well, at least we know BW Lion is continuing his tradition of having multiple monikers working at the same time. Psst … his “great post” has already been proven clearly and unequivocally false.
 
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Well, at least we know BW Lion is continuing his tradition of having multiple monikers working at the same time. Psst … his “great post” has already been proven clearly and unequivocally false.
I hate to disappoint you but I’m not FTLPSU or anyone else. I’m just me. 🙄
 

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Well, at least we know BW Lion is continuing his tradition of having multiple monikers working at the same time. Psst … his “great post” has already been proven clearly and unequivocally false.
I dont know him nor you--I simply commented on his post. I do not track the "Norms" or "Regulars" on here, simply try and make objective posts.

Pulling a guard here and there doesn't mean we are great at run blocking nor make major attempts to correct these challenges. I have been quite frustrated with the running game and lack of run blocking....
 

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I dont know him nor you--I simply commented on his post. I do not track the "Norms" or "Regulars" on here, simply try and make objective posts.

Pulling a guard here and there doesn't mean we are great at run blocking nor make major attempts to correct these challenges. I have been quite frustrated with the running game and lack of run blocking....
yes but pulling a OG isnt going to help, in fact it may hurt, as its another skill thats need to be taught. We need to spend more time on regular run blocks let alone pass protection. IMO its more on how we block than anything else.
 
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I dont know him nor you--I simply commented on his post. I do not track the "Norms" or "Regulars" on here, simply try and make objective posts.

Pulling a guard here and there doesn't mean we are great at run blocking nor make major attempts to correct these challenges. I have been quite frustrated with the running game and lack of run blocking....

OK., <wink, wink>

The entire point of his post was that Franklin sucks because we don't pull any OL (and haven't), and our running attack suffers because of it, unlike other teams who do pull OL and are, therefore, more successful running the ball.

To that, you said "Your point is incredibly valid" and "Great post!"

Except we do pull. And we have pulled. So everything about his post was wrong. So how is his entirely incorrect point incredibly valid, and how was it a great post?
 
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OK., <wink, wink>

The entire point of his post was that Franklin sucks because we don't pull any OL (and haven't), and our running attack suffers because of it, unlike other teams who do pull OL and are, therefore, more successful running the ball.

To that, you said "Your point is incredibly valid" and "Great post!"

Except we do pull. And we have pulled. So everything about his post was wrong. So how is his entirely incorrect point incredibly valid, and how was it a great post?
I conceit
 
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