Gamecocks baseball legend Kip Bouknight to have his jersey retired

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Way overdue. Golden Spikes award winner should’ve had this happen 15 years ago. So much rich history for the baseball program. Need to be honoring a player each season for a while to catch up. Though I wouldn’t retire jerseys.

Who should be next? I say Michael Roth.
 

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Way overdue. Golden Spikes award winner should’ve had this happen 15 years ago. So much rich history for the baseball program. Need to be honoring a player each season for a while to catch up. Though I wouldn’t retire jerseys.

Who should be next? I say Michael Roth.
Mr. Friday Night Win
 

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I'm not a fan of retiring jerseys.I think there are other ways of honoring players such as displaying their jersey in the stadium without taking the number out of circulation.Don' t want to end up like the Yankee or Celtics with no low numbers left.
 

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Not really sure….guess it simply means the number remains available for use.

You got it. From the article above:

By policy, there is a five-year waiting period after a former Gamecock student-athlete’s final season of participation before their jersey can be considered for retirement. As part of the policy, the University will retire jerseys, but will not retire numbers. Those numbers previously retired will continue to be in a retired state.
 
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You got it. From the article above:

By policy, there is a five-year waiting period after a former Gamecock student-athlete’s final season of participation before their jersey can be considered for retirement. As part of the policy, the University will retire jerseys, but will not retire numbers. Those numbers previously retired will continue to be in a retired state.
That still doesn't explain what "retiring a jersey" means. It does provide an example of what it doesn't mean.
 

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That still doesn't explain what "retiring a jersey" means. It does provide an example of what it doesn't mean.

This question came up the last time we "retired" a jersey. That was Clowney at the beginning of the '22 season. His jersey hangs with the other football honorees in WB just outside the press area.

The link below is from an article written before that time when we retired different jerseys for different sports one year. It has FAQ items at the bottom that gives some details. This may help.

 

atl-cock

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Retiring a jersey is weird phraseology for such an honour, but nothing more descriptive comes to mind.
 

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You got it. From the article above:

By policy, there is a five-year waiting period after a former Gamecock student-athlete’s final season of participation before their jersey can be considered for retirement. As part of the policy, the University will retire jerseys, but will not retire numbers. Those numbers previously retired will continue to be in a retired state.
A truly debasing policy. If you're running out of numbers, you've been retiring too many of them.
 
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I'm not a fan of retiring jerseys.I think there are other ways of honoring players such as displaying their jersey in the stadium without taking the number out of circulation.Don' t want to end up like the Yankee or Celtics with no low numbers left.
Start using "zero" more - in combination with other single numerals. That opens up 10 numbers right there- all of them "low".
 

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Retiring a jersey is as moot as retiring a pair of team-issued jockey shorts.
 
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00x opens up even more.......
I count 0 as a numeral. 00 thru 09 yields 10 numbers. I'd rather see people start using three-digit numbers than to go on with this farce. It would even work in basketball as long as each numeral in a number can be signaled with one hand.
 

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I count 0 as a numeral. 00 thru 09 yields 10 numbers. I'd rather see people start using three-digit numbers than to go on with this farce. It would even work in basketball as long as each numeral in a number can be signaled with one hand.
:LOL:

Back in the day, only digits 0-5 were allowed, so that each numeral in a number could be signalled with one hand. For example, #16 would not be legal.
 

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:LOL:

Back in the day, only digits 0-5 were allowed, so that each numeral in a number could be signalled with one hand. For example, #16 would not be legal.
Well, 135 would work for basketball. That's what I'm saying, use however many numerals you need to shut down this dumb@$$ practice of retiring "jerseys". Preposterous and disrespectful.
 

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I've never been a fan of schools giving individual awards to players on TEAM sports. I dont care what the award is. I get outside organizations like leagues and the likes giving awards because that's out of your control. But honoring individuals on your own TEAM? Nope. BTW, I know a lot of coaches of the same opinion.
 

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Well, 135 would work for basketball. That's what I'm saying, use however many numerals you need to shut down this dumb@$$ practice of retiring "jerseys". Preposterous and disrespectful.
Who else besides Zaphod Beeblebrox has three hands?
 

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As to the matter at hand, Dick Groat, former Pittsburgh Pirate great, died today at age 92. Before breaking into the Bigs, he was an excellent basketball player in college, graduating from Duke. ESPN says this:
Groat, who was from the Swissvale neighborhood just east of Pittsburgh's downtown, starred at Duke in basketball and baseball in the early 1950s, earning All-American honors in both. His No. 10 jersey hangs inside Cameron Indoor Stadium after the program retired his number following his senior season in 1952.
There.
 

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As to the matter at hand, Dick Groat, former Pittsburgh Pirate great, died today at age 92. Before breaking into the Bigs, he was an excellent basketball player in college, graduating from Duke. ESPN says this:

There.
I believe Steve Wadiak's number was also retired for USC. Could be mistaken, though.
 

atl-cock

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I don't think you are and I believe there are others. Jersey retirement is bullcrap.
Jersey retirement, IMO, would be equivalent to being elected to the school's hall of fame. Mike Johnson did not have that kind of career, but he apparently had enough of an impact on the team that the school wished to honour his memory in a tangible way.

And thus, let's come up with more realistic terminology to honour the George Rogers of the school, and appropriate terminology to honour the Mike Johnsons as well. All to move away from retiring jerseys. Not the same terminology for each, but honourable in their own ways.
 

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Jersey retirement, IMO, would be equivalent to being elected to the school's hall of fame. Mike Johnson did not have that kind of career, but he apparently had enough of an impact on the team that the school wished to honour his memory in a tangible way.

And thus, let's come up with more realistic terminology to honour the George Rogers of the school, and appropriate terminology to honour the Mike Johnsons as well. All to move away from retiring jerseys. Not the same terminology for each, but honourable in their own ways.
Well, I guess if you're not going to do it correctly, better to go away from an incorrect practice altogether than to keep doing it errantly.
 
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