Gator Bowl lobbies to move Sugar Bowl time up?

onewoof

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I guess they had an exclusive agreement to be the only prime time game.

Wow.
 

onewoof

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Yeah the freaking Gator Bowl is going to determine when a college football playoff game happens. Come on man.
Yes. ESPN agreement states that it is the only game in prime time on 1/2. They cannot make the request to move it, so ESPN asked that the coaches of the Sugar Bowl ask to move it.

You have to be out of your mind to think any team, or ESPN, wants to put a playoff game at 3PM on a work day.
 

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I guess they had an exclusive agreement to be the only prime time game.

Wow.
Wait, the game is already at 3pm. How is this going to interfere with a 7pm game?

Did I miss something?
 

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Yes. ESPN agreement states that it is the only game in prime time on 1/2. They cannot make the request to move it, so ESPN asked that the coaches of the Sugar Bowl ask to move it.

You have to be out of your mind to think any team, or ESPN, wants to put a playoff game at 3PM on a work day.
Best television time slots go out the window when a game is rescheduled. Georgia and Notre Dame already have one less day of rest than their opponent, so they want the game played earlier so they can travel out of New Orleans earlier and not get back to campus in the middle of the night. They way they can begin recovery a little sooner. I guarantee you the Gator Bowl has no say in what time the CFP game starts.
 
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Yes. ESPN agreement states that it is the only game in prime time on 1/2. They cannot make the request to move it, so ESPN asked that the coaches of the Sugar Bowl ask to move it.

You have to be out of your mind to think any team, or ESPN, wants to put a playoff game at 3PM on a work day.
Your Ole Miss friends have really gotten to you. I’ll say a prayer for you.
 

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So the Sugar Bowl, which is a CFP game with Notre Dame and Georgia, was moved up in the day to accommodate the Gator Bowl which has those well known football powers Ole Miss and Duke. Uh, yeah, sure buddy.
 

HotMop

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I will pray that you understand the business of ESPN better. Not sure prayer will help though.
ma GIF
 

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New Orleans is a dangerous place right now… both teams want to hurry up and get their teams and fans out.
 

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Gator Bowl has an prime time exclusivity clause in the agreement for ESPN. No other games at the same time. They moved the Gator Bowl start time to 30 minutes later.

Sugar Bowl also has an exclusivity clause in the agreement. No other games at the same time.

The right thing to do, and what viewers wanted, would be to put the Sugar Bowl at 7:30pm Central tonight and move the Gator Bowl up to 4pm Central. Why do you think that did not happen? Sugar Bowl is by far the more interesting game for everyone nationwide.
 

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Gator Bowl has an prime time exclusivity clause in the agreement for ESPN. No other games at the same time. They moved the Gator Bowl start time to 30 minutes later.

Sugar Bowl also has an exclusivity clause in the agreement. No other games at the same time.

The right thing to do, and what viewers wanted, would be to put the Sugar Bowl at 7:30pm Central tonight and move the Gator Bowl up to 4pm Central. Why do you think that did not happen? Sugar Bowl is by far the more interesting game for everyone nationwide.
Probably because Georgia and Notre Dame wanted to play the game earlier, as has been stated.
 
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Probably because Georgia and Notre Dame wanted to play the game earlier, as has been stated.
I think more likely, it was much easier logistically to keep the bowl game on schedule and play the playoff at 3:00. Not to mention, probably not a bad idea to get everyone cleared out of that Poydras/French Quarter area in early evening rather than midnight.
 
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I think more likely, it was much easier logistically to keep the bowl game on schedule and play the playoff at 3:00. Not to mention, probably not a bad idea to get everyone cleared out of that Poydras/French Quarter area in early evening rather than midnight.
That’s why. Georgia and Notre Dame want their people out as quick as possible.
 

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Probably because Georgia and Notre Dame wanted to play the game earlier, as has been stated.
Will never believe that was the case, no one in the sports brand dept would agree to that at either Notre Dame or Georgia. You could make a case that both teams could fly out of New Orleans tonight by moving the game up, but the ideal situation for both Georgia and Notre Dame would be to have it at 7pm Central. That was not an option.

ESPN does things like this, it is not a request of the coaches even though they will be on the record saying that they requested it. It needs to look that way.
 

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Will never believe that was the case, no one in the sports brand dept would agree to that at either Notre Dame or Georgia. You could make a case that both teams could fly out of New Orleans tonight by moving the game up, but the ideal situation for both Georgia and Notre Dame would be to have it at 7pm Central. That was not an option.

ESPN does things like this, it is not a request of the coaches even though they will be on the record saying that they requested it. It needs to look that way.
Good lord man, if I'm coaching either team I'd rather have it played this morning if possible.
 

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Will never believe that was the case, no one in the sports brand dept would agree to that at either Notre Dame or Georgia. You could make a case that both teams could fly out of New Orleans tonight by moving the game up, but the ideal situation for both Georgia and Notre Dame would be to have it at 7pm Central. That was not an option.

ESPN does things like this, it is not a request of the coaches even though they will be on the record saying that they requested it. It needs to look that way.
It’s been reported by multiple people that both coaches wanted to play the game as soon as possible so the winning team could start preparing for the Orange Bowl sooner. They would have played this game at noon if they could. The 17ing Gator Bowl would be canceled if it needed to be in order to get the playoff game played. No one gives a schitt about the Gator Bowl, including the teams playing in it.
 

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It’s been reported by multiple people that both coaches wanted to play the game as soon as possible so the winning team could start preparing for the Orange Bowl sooner. They would have played this game at noon if they could. The 17ing Gator Bowl would be canceled if it needed to be in order to get the playoff game played. No one gives a schitt about the Gator Bowl, including the teams playing in it.
Well if it's been reported it's 100% true as reported
 

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Will never believe that was the case, no one in the sports brand dept would agree to that at either Notre Dame or Georgia.
The “sports brand department”? Does this totally fictitious department that you are trying to speak into existence at 2 different universities have more say than the coaching staff, athletics director, and university president at each school?

You could make a case that both teams could fly out of New Orleans tonight by moving the game up, but the ideal situation for both Georgia and Notre Dame would be to have it at 7pm Central. That was not an option.

Ideal for who? Neither coaching staff gives a crap about how many fans watch their game on TV. They’d both play the game at 3 AM if they thought it gave them the best chance of winning, and they were given the choice.

ESPN does things like this
ESPN does things like what? Deliberately makes their best products harder to watch? Intentionally gives less exposure to their advertisers? Are you even listening to yourself?

it is not a request of the coaches even though they will be on the record saying that they requested it. It needs to look that way.

Nobody cares how it looks….except you apparently.
 

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ESPN does things like what? Deliberately makes their best products harder to watch? Intentionally gives less exposure to their advertisers? Are you even listening to yourself?

Nobody cares how it looks….except you apparently.

A little lesson in the TV sports business for those that lack the basics. Get your #2 pencil out and take notes lil fella. I will make it extra simple, and be sure to read slow ok?

First grade lesson #1
  1. Two games, two time slots.
  2. Biggest draw in the prime time slot
  3. Bowl game exclusive prime time slot agreement exists today with Gator Bowl
  4. Advertisers pay for prime time ad slots
Second grade lesson #1
  1. First grade lesson does not apply today/tonight, should show both games at prime time
  2. Sugar Bowl lost the prime time slot, Gator Bowl kept it
  3. Millions less watch the Sugar Bowl, advertisers not happy but what can they do
  4. The Gator Bowl should have gotten screwed but "coaches asked to move the game up"
Keep trying lil buddy, you will figure it all out one day, maybe not though.
 

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Yes. ESPN agreement states that it is the only game in prime time on 1/2. They cannot make the request to move it, so ESPN asked that the coaches of the Sugar Bowl ask to move it.

You have to be out of your mind to think any team, or ESPN, wants to put a playoff game at 3PM on a work day.
The only thing that makes any sense to me about moving it earlier is that most of the people at the game and probably the teams too were planning on checking out and going home this morning.
With an 3:00 start, folks could check out a little late, go to the game, then drive home ( or at least part way). Could maybe even catch a later flight. And not have to figure out logistics of everyone needing somewhere to stay. This is assuming that hotels were somewhat booked for tonight with non-game visitors.
 

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A little lesson in the TV sports business for those that lack the basics. Get your #2 pencil out and take notes lil fella. I will make it extra simple, and be sure to read slow ok?

First grade lesson #1
  1. Two games, two time slots.
  2. Biggest draw in the prime time slot
  3. Bowl game exclusive prime time slot agreement exists today with Gator Bowl
  4. Advertisers pay for prime time ad slots
Second grade lesson #1
  1. First grade lesson does not apply today/tonight, should show both games at prime time
  2. Sugar Bowl lost the prime time slot, Gator Bowl kept it
  3. Millions less watch the Sugar Bowl, advertisers not happy but what can they do
  4. The Gator Bowl should have gotten screwed but "coaches asked to move the game up"
Keep trying lil buddy, you will figure it all out one day, maybe not though.
You keep posting like this is high level thinking when it’s been laid out by virtually everyone why the game is being played at 3. When the game was postponed because of a terrorist attack the ratings argument and timeslot go out the window, it becomes a matter of convenience. The teams, the CFP, and even the city requested the game be played early.

I got a box of crayons for you.
 

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SportsCenter reporter at the Super Dome literally just said that the game was moved up because the teams wanted to hurry up and get done to rest for the Orange Bowl.
 
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The “sports brand department”? Does this totally fictitious department that you are trying to speak into existence at 2 different universities have more say than the coaching staff, athletics director, and university president at each school?



Ideal for who? Neither coaching staff gives a crap about how many fans watch their game on TV. They’d both play the game at 3 AM if they thought it gave them the best chance of winning, and they were given the choice.


ESPN does things like what? Deliberately makes their best products harder to watch? Intentionally gives less exposure to their advertisers? Are you even listening to yourself?



Nobody cares how it looks….except you apparently.
You have to remember this is the same guy that thinks the NFL is rigged. Need I say more.
 
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SportsCenter reporter at the Super Dome literally just said that the game was moved up because the teams wanted to hurry up and get done to rest for the Orange Bowl.
Spoon fed from the TV is always 100% fact. At this point it's attempts to keep the advertisers from getting upset
 

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Spoon fed from the TV is always 100% fact.
As long as its spoonfed from the prime time slot, amirite?

At this point it's attempts to keep the advertisers from getting upset

Dude, I don’t think anyone even knows who you’re mad at, or why. If the shít about the exclusive Gator Bowl time slot was true, what would even be the point of hiding that or spinning some BS narrative? It would be a legal issue that’s completely out of everyone’s hands. Why would anything have to “appear” a certain way?

Once the attack happened, and the game got delayed, the ratings were guaranteed to go down, no matter what they did. Holiday afternoon was the prime window. The only concern for the reschedule that anyone cared about is what was best for the teams first, and in-person attendance second. Nothing else mattered.
 
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