Greg McElroy: South Carolina could be 'scary team' entering 2022

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Will depend on the QB position and coach.

Swing games will be Arkansas, Kentucky and Tennessee.

We have a good DC. I have confidence in Clayton White.
 
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I'm glad to see people buying into us but always worry about getting our hopes up to only be let down. This time will go as far as the QB, OLine, and Offensive Coordinator will take them.
 
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Will depend on the QB position and coach.

Swing games will be Arkansas, Kentucky and Tennessee.

We have a good DC. I have confidence in Clayton White.
A real question but why is QB a question mark? Spencer is still on a 15 game winning streak as a starting QB despite Riley benching him. I didn’t think QB was always the problem last season even though they weren’t the most talented. Our Miscommunication on blocking and penalties held our offense back a lot of the times. Once we got that fix after the bye week we looked totally different.
 

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A real question but why is QB a question mark? Spencer is still on a 15 game winning streak as a starting QB despite Riley benching him. I didn’t think QB was always the problem last season even though they weren’t the most talented. Our Miscommunication on blocking and penalties held our offense back a lot of the times. Once we got that fix after the bye week we looked totally different.
Very good and fair question. It's not so much Rattler as it is Satterfield. No question Rattler is talented. From what I have read, the reason he got benched was for making too many bad decisions on the field. Can Satterfield communicate and coach him well enough to help him regarding that? I hope so, Whereas no question that Rattler is talented, Satterfield remains a question mark, in my mind. He never produced a Top 50 offense as Offensive Coordinator when he was OC at Temple. Last season, our offense finished number 111 out of 130 teams. Yes, our offense looked good in the bowl game. The only other time it looked good last season was against Florida. The common denominator between the Florida game and the bowl game last season was that we had more than one week to prepare. Unfortunately, we will have only one week to prepare for most teams on our schedule. Consequently, I am in a "wait and see" mode.
 

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It's easy to forget how bad our offense was at times last year. While I hope Satt works out, I would have fired him.
Then again, I'm not the head coach.
Same here. If he had not stunk it up in his prior time as OC at Temple, I would have no problem bringing him back. One year could be bad luck. Two years could be a coincidence. But 3 years makes a trend.
 

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One thing for sure this season compared to last: This staff knows a lot more about the talent on this team, the team's strengths, its weaknesses, how the coaches work together, how to run the program, and virtually every other aspect of the team than they did this time last year. A lot of us expressed concern that we had hired a guy with no head-coaching or coordinator experience. That's not the case any more. Beamer now has more head coaching experience than Kirby Smart did when Georgia hired him. I'm not saying we are destined for a championship in a couple of years, but it's not unreasonable to expect this coaching staff to look infinitely more experienced this year than they did last year.
 
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Same here. If he had not stunk it up in his prior time as OC at Temple, I would have no problem bringing him back. One year could be bad luck. Two years could be a coincidence. But 3 years makes a trend.
And at the same time....Satt's game plan in the Duke's bowl was superb! It validated what his offense might look like with a mobile QB who can make plays on the run.
 
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Will depend on the QB position and coach.

Swing games will be Arkansas, Kentucky and Tennessee.

We have a good DC. I have confidence in Clayton White.
We will be 1-2 at best in those games. On the off chance that I am mistaken and we go 2-1, then eight wins are on the table.
 
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And at the same time....Satt's game plan in the Duke's bowl was superb! It validated what his offense might look like with a mobile QB who can make plays on the run.
It also was in the Florida game. I just hope he can put together good game plans with just one week to prepare.
 

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If the OL can consistently do their job this could be a really good year.... The DL should be the strength of our D and if they can get pressure on the QB that will help with the lack of skill sets on the back end
 
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A real question but why is QB a question mark?

Going off memory, but this was brought up a few months ago. Rattler's second season had interesting stats. In one game against a patsy, he had 5 td's. In the remaining 5 (I think) games, he was averaging1 td and 1 INT per game.

This was at OU where his team had a lot more talent than the competition, and against B12 defenses as well.

Given he's moving up to the sec, I can see some people reserving judgement.
 
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Going off memory, but this was brought up a few months ago. Rattler's second season had interesting stats. In one game against a patsy, he had 5 td's. In the remaining 5 (I think) games, he was averaging1 td and 1 INT per game.

This was at OU where his team had a lot more talent than the competition, and against B12 defenses as well.

Given he's moving up to the sec, I can see some people reserving judgement.
I think it’s a misconception that OU had more talent than the whole Big12 last season. Last year he was still a young QB and considering his coach had one foot inside the program and one foot outside the program can create problems for a team. Spencer isn’t the first player to speak out about Riley behavior. I’ll still take a QB with 4,000 career passing yards with 40 TDs and 7 picks on 70% completion. We won 7 games with a QB that’s not close to Spencer talent wise.
 

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It's easy to forget how bad our offense was at times last year. While I hope Satt works out, I would have fired him.
Then again, I'm not the head coach.
Yes our OL communication was bad which made our offense look bad. We did also make some questionable play calls but a lot of the times we had open wideouts and we weren’t able to make an accurate pass to them. That Tennessee game with the goal line play really pissed me off though. That changed the whole momentum of the game especially seeing they weren’t able to stop the run smh
 

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I think it’s a misconception that OU had more talent than the whole Big12 last season.

Really? Who in the B12 would you consider to be more talented? (Edit: I looked, they had the top or second class in the B12 for the past 4 years, with them and Texas having the top class twice each)

Of the 5 games (it was, I checked) that he struggled in last year, it was 4 unranked teams and Texas, who he was benched during for throwing 1 int and no tds.

I get that he had good stats his first year, it made him an early Heisman candidate. But that second year ( against B12 defenses that are typically a joke on this board) is ample evidence, imo, to call his play a question mark.
 
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Really? Who in the B12 would you consider to be more talented? (Edit: I looked, they had the top or second class in the B12 for the past 4 years, with them and Texas having the top class twice each)

Of the 5 games (it was, I checked) that he struggled in last year, it was 4 unranked teams and Texas, who he was benched during for throwing 1 int and no tds.

I get that he had good stats his first year, it made him an early Heisman candidate. But that second year ( against B12 defenses that are typically a joke on this board) is ample evidence, imo, to call his play a question mark.
B12 not playing defense is a myth. A QB that won 15 straight games couldn’t finish a game he only threw one pick in? Yea that seem strange to me.
 

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B12 not playing defense is a myth. A QB that won 15 straight games couldn’t finish a game he only threw one pick in? Yea that seem strange to me.

It's a pretty widely believed "myth". Perhaps we could put that statement a different way and say that the B12 defenses aren't nearly as good as the SEC defenses? We could agree on that?

And the benching would seem strange if you didn't see all 6 games he played in that season.


They started the year beating Tulane by 5 points with him throwing 1 TD and 2 INTs. He then threw 5 TDs with 0 INTs against western Carolina, but followed it up with a 7 point win over Nebraska, throwing 1 TD and 0 INTs. Then it was a 4 point win over WVU where he had 1 TD and 1 INT, and then a 6 point win over Kansas state, throwing 2 TDs and 1 INT.

Then came the Texas game where they fell behind with him struggling and throwing 0 TDs and 1 INT.

I don't believe he was benched solely for the Texas game. Something drastic changed between his freshman and sophomore years.
 

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Sophomore slump? Who really knows what he was going through at OU.

Regardless, he's ours now. And he has talent. I'd think our staff and Rattler have reviewed and analyzed every play he was in while he was there.

Go get'em Spence. I'm looking for a new beginning for this season. A restart in a new place with new staff.
 
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Sophomore slump? Who really knows what he was going through at OU.

Regardless, he's ours now. And he has talent. I'd think our staff and Rattler have reviewed and analyzed every play he was in while he was there.

Go get'em Spence. I'm looking for a new beginning for this season. A restart in a new place with new staff.
Fresh start, new atmosphere and great receivers around him. Looking forward to the season.
 

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Sophomore slump? Who really knows what he was going through at OU.

Regardless, he's ours now. And he has talent. I'd think our staff and Rattler have reviewed and analyzed every play he was in while he was there.

Go get'em Spence. I'm looking for a new beginning for this season. A restart in a new place with new staff.

Understood completely. I was just addressing the question of why anyone would consider qb play a question mark.
 

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It's a pretty widely believed "myth". Perhaps we could put that statement a different way and say that the B12 defenses aren't nearly as good as the SEC defenses? We could agree on that?

And the benching would seem strange if you didn't see all 6 games he played in that season.


They started the year beating Tulane by 5 points with him throwing 1 TD and 2 INTs. He then threw 5 TDs with 0 INTs against western Carolina, but followed it up with a 7 point win over Nebraska, throwing 1 TD and 0 INTs. Then it was a 4 point win over WVU where he had 1 TD and 1 INT, and then a 6 point win over Kansas state, throwing 2 TDs and 1 INT.

Then came the Texas game where they fell behind with him struggling and throwing 0 TDs and 1 INT.

I don't believe he was benched solely for the Texas game. Something drastic changed between his freshman and sophomore years.
A lot changed and a lot of that changed came from the top. Spencer, his teammates, and media personnel close to that program spoke about it. Believing Baylor and Oklahoma St don’t play defense is telling me you don’t watch the sport. You can have all the talent in the world but your coaches still have to set you up to succeed and Riley didn’t do that last season.
 
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A lot changed and a lot of that changed came from the top. Spencer, his teammates, and media personnel close to that program spoke about it. Believing Baylor and Oklahoma St don’t play defense is telling me you don’t watch the sport. You can have all the talent in the world but your coaches still have to set you up to succeed and Riley didn’t do that last season.

Well, if you read my post that you quoted, you would understand the error in that bolded reply. (And if we wanted to be picky, I'd point out that neither Baylor nor Oklahoma St were listed as the games he struggled against.)

As for it all being Rileys fault? I suppose that is a possibility.
 

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If the OL can consistently do their job this could be a really good year.... The DL should be the strength of our D and if they can get pressure on the QB that will help with the lack of skill sets on the back end
When is the last time they have done that, years, has something happened in the offseason to make us think the OL will be any better.
 

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We will be 1-2 at best in those games. On the off chance that I am mistaken and we go 2-1, then eight wins are on the table.
While I can almost buy what King offers here I have these scars from the last 3 muzcheez years & a life time of growing up round this.

SOOOO, when a dude of king’s resume and logic puts a number like 8 in a post I take notice (& I effn hate Rocky bottom & we owe Uk in a big way)

so here it comes

We go it’s take’em one game at a time, I am just here to help the ball club. The good lord willing things will work out.

I kinda feel like they could work out more than 8 times but I am not allowed to say that out loud.

ya k no w
 
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I'm glad to see people buying into us but always worry about getting our hopes up to only be let down. This time will go as far as the QB, OLine, and Offensive Coordinator will take them.
Good point. And I’m with you. However when it was an SOS team I worried because we never seemed to stay focused after the hype. At least now we will get an idea early on how a Beamer team will or won’t handle expectations. Because the expectations train is gaining steam.
 

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We will be 1-2 at best in those games. On the off chance that I am mistaken and we go 2-1, then eight wins are on the table.
We will probably be underdogs in all those 3 games, If somehow we could go 8-4, that would be huge for recruiting. Beamer needs to show he has coaching chops in order to lure a large group of blue chip recruits. Steve Spurrier long ago proved he knew a thing or two about coaching. Thus, big time recruits knew what they were signing up for by coming to play for Spurrier. Shane has gotten commitments from some quality recruits. But, he is not a strong enough recruiter to attract recruits based on just his personality, enthusiasm and work ethic, Right now, we are just outside the On3 top 25 recruiting ranking. That's OK. But, we need to do better than that.
 
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A lot changed and a lot of that changed came from the top. Spencer, his teammates, and media personnel close to that program spoke about it. Believing Baylor and Oklahoma St don’t play defense is telling me you don’t watch the sport. You can have all the talent in the world but your coaches still have to set you up to succeed and Riley didn’t do that last season.
An investment site I belong to has an Oklahoma fan as a member. He told me he was VERY happy to see Riley leave.
 
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An investment site I belong to has an Oklahoma fan as a member. He told me he was VERY happy to see Riley leave.
A lot of OU fans felt that way. Somehow the college fans who doesn’t watch that program closely didn’t realize what Spencer and the rest of that team went through last season
 
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