I was told Gus sux. He couldn't win at Auburn yadayada. Ours fans deserve the **** we have. Malzahn if he wanted the job could have been our next leach. Dude can take jrp or Nick Marshall or Jefferson and win football games.
LOL, we have little talent and tons of culture problems from the last guys running things. Those players slacking were Arnett's boys. I would imagine we'll see a few more get shown the road soon.
Leave UCF where you’re in a good place to win the Big12 without Texas and Oklahoma now or come to State to do a rebuild.
That's always the story it's arnetts boys or Moorhead's boys. There his boys now. He should have been fixing that during the game. Instead watching his showtime offense go 3-0 over and over because everyone knows we can't run the ball now because our pushes like a bunch of little girls. Our defensive line looks more like an open pasture right now. The guys we have don't even try tackling. Arnett isn't there anymore. These guys are getting paid well to coach these boys up. They looked worse against Toledo at home than they did at Arizona state
I was told last year he had downgraded UCF now ysll saying he is going to win the conference. Make up your minds.
Nah, he didnt recruit those guys and if they don't buy in, they hit the road. We've literally got the worst defensive talent in P4. Hopefully the young guys can take over fast.
We weren't the only team he turned down. Arkansas was looking at making a move and he wasn't interested there either. You're obviously in your feels so get it all out.
Not in my feels at all. I'm just tired of the dumb *** fans and administration that msu has. We are a cellar dweller for a reason and not just in sports. And our fans that are in the know don't know jack and can't ever back anything up they post.
That's a bunch of ********. Bunch of guys he recruited out there whiffing. And he had every chance to hit the portal in the spring if he didn't like what he saw. He also has a chance to watch film when he was hired. Instead we focused on show time. I want him to be successful but so far three games in he ain't getting his dudes to put in what it takes to even be competitive.
I didn’t say shít about Malzahn last year so quit with this “yall” BS and trying to lump everyone into your pity party.
Ain't no pity party. Just calling **** like I see it. MSU admin boosters and fans can't get out of their own way. Too good for a coach. And too bad to attract one. So we get what we get. Which is getting our *** kicked by Toledo. Do you like being 3-9? Or 2-10? 1-11?
Ya'll keep talking this rebuild bullshlt but guess what? Lebby helped create the situation. It's an excuse to reset expectations and defer blame. It's BS now and any other time.
Lebby absolutely has to have some of the blame but you’ve convinced yourself that the other previous coaching staffs are blameless for what’s happened with the roster.
She likes the Bippity Boppity Boutique. Earl's High and Tight in Starkville can't compete with that.
Do you believe we are less talented across the board than Toledo? Does only Arnett get the blame? Yes he was abysmal. But why do we not have seniors, juniors, red shirt sophomores that are here from leaches tenure. I believe we do. Why are those guys not producers. Nobody wants to put any blame there because leaches last team had 9 wins and Arnett blew every thing up. How many guys transferred out, how many graduated? We were a pretty old team last year. Where were the guys underneath? Why are they not panning out or very talented? If leach Arnett and lebby recruited somewhat at our normal clip there should be enough talent there with good coaching to not get boat raced by g5
Not to mention with the portal any type of transition is made much easier than it used to be.
Yes if we use it wisely. But we got g5 guys on the line as starters. I don't think we have a good power 5 guy at all in the front 7 in defense and we whiffed on all the good recruits there, but question is. Why is the talent there that's been here 2-4 years so bad in those positions? Because that's past Arnett. He is partially to blame for his side if he ball, but some of those guys are okay. Either we did a terrible job at developing last 3 years or did a terrible job of evaluating or lebbys staff can't coach them up. Turner was a good coach. At least with a couple of really good pieces.
Literally 53 of 85 players never played for either Arnett or Leach, including at least 16 of 22 starters. These are Lebbys players.
While i agree... its year 1... year 1 rebuilds dont happen. Although agreed should be much better than this..fair to say b/t leach and arnett we were behind the curb recruiting wise before Lebby even walked in the door.
You realize you're making the point right? Lebby brought in portal guys because there was nothing here and that portal window was short. Take the offense out and that defense is mostly the guys that have been here. The OL portal was razor thin and we had to have bodies. You'd have thought Leach would have at least left offense but nope. Arnett was an awful evaluator of talent too.
But but but Salmon and Libby gettalong great and and they gon turn us into deep south OU...wait and see...you'll see. This this is beyond Dan Mullen hire.....
Me too! 1-11 is even better. I'm literally getting this tattooed at the end of the season.
DCD said he loves 2-10 seasons. I went one step further and said 1-11 seasons are even better and that to commemorate this remarkable season, I’m going to get a tattoo of “EKU & Eleven”.
