Harbaugh advocates for 5-10% revenue sharing pot for "student" athletes
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Jim Harbaugh makes plea for major cuts to pay college players: ‘Robbing the same train’
Jim Harbaugh is getting ready for a national title game, but that hasn’t stopped him from giving his thoughts on the overall state of college football.
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Don't think this is a bad idea. There also needs to be some form of contractual obligation on the players' part too to enhance roster stability and save the bowl games. Fancy way of saying if there's a pay to play dynamic, there has to be an equal focus on the play part too.
Along with your scholarship you also get a contract that you can negotiate the minimum time that you must stay and play for a school. I
Can it be done without making players employees, though? That opens a whole can of worms.
I am fine with it. But there must be a contract to obligate players. "To get A, you must do B".
That's right. They want to be grown men; let's expose them to what being grown men means.
They need to just stop beating around the bush and make them employees. Create a players' association and work out a collective bargaining agreement. Then you can have stipulations to help keep the roster intact until after the last game of the season is played (The National Championship). Just go ahead and embrace this as a semi-pro sports league.
College football players have largely been exempted from being judged on performance. Sure you may not start, or even play, but you can ride the pine for 4 years and get that free college degree.
And a salary cap. Still, I don't know how you prevent boosters from paying players above an agreed upon cap.
The issue isn't them getting paid. They'll still be about to go out and "market" themselves, just as NFL players can. To me, there needs to be something tying them to the university they choose.
18 year olds with a legally binding contract in hand will initiate the graying of the hair
Needs to be. Siring children doesn't daunt them. Let them do something that involves actual responsibility.
Right. Hold them to a performance standard way more stringent than anything they have ever known before.
They want more than a free education for their athletic talents? OK. But they need to learn that life is not a "one-way street". If they want more, then they must give more. If I have a great year with my investments, I give more to my favorite charities. You can't be a "taker" all the time. If they want to be treated like adults, they then have to act like adults.
Agreed. I think there's a simple solution. NIL money goes into an account managed by the university. Players receive access to a portion (let's say 25%) at the start of each year. If they bail after 1 year, the balance of the money goes back to the originator. In addition, sit 50% of a season if you transfer. One time transfer only without sitting 1+ years.
The goal used to be winning as a team and now the goal is the fat wallet for individuals.
Makes use of the word team a mistaken identity as it is now a group of individuals with wallets of various sizes.
How can you expect a player making $ to help another player making $$$$$ be successful and be a happy camper?
Dissension and low moral on any CFB ''team'' has to be at an all-time high in this atmosphere.
Makes use of the word team a mistaken identity as it is now a group of individuals with wallets of various sizes.
How can you expect a player making $ to help another player making $$$$$ be successful and be a happy camper?
Dissension and low moral on any CFB ''team'' has to be at an all-time high in this atmosphere.
I suppose society has simply decided that the 100% free education they are getting with a full athletic scholarship holds no value?
If it holds value, shouldn’t the value of their scholarship be deducted from any compensation before they receive any money?
Dang straight! I'm fed up with these flighty brats that opt out and abandon programs.
Same goes for the NCAA. It has been a one way street forever. If they want more, they need to give more.
OK. I don't disagree with you. I just don't know what I am agreeing on. Could you give a little detail as to what you are referring to? TIA
You can get your point across without all the pouty "Us vs. Them" language too. It's not like they are trying to take the money out of your pocket. As all people do, these players see an opportunity and are running to it. It's up to the legal system and the gatekeepers of the product to make it work for everyone. It's not up to the individual player to make this a stable system for your viewing pleasure. When one program is offering $50,000.00 and Athletic Scholarship for a service and another program comes along and offers $75,000.00 and the same scholarship for that service, most people (students, athletes, whatever you want to call them) are going to take that pay raise. It's not their fault. It's the grown-ups who need to get themselves together. When there is an issue with kids, I'll show you an issue with the grown-ups involved with them around the corner.
I posted as a did for a reason. It was an experiment. I want to thank you for delivering exactly the type of virtue-signaling response I was hoping to elicit from a member of a particular board subset. You have made my night. Enjoy the game.
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The Dallas Cowboys don't have a collective pooling money to exceed the salary cap and attract players. Even if players are paid, collectives at the best-funded schools will still outbid schools like South Carolina.
I'm only suggesting that there needs to be some give and take on both ends. The NCAA has taketh for so many years. I think some profit sharing is reasonable.
You can take their ability to use NIl as long as you are compensating them for it. Call me crazy but I like the NFL draft. I would be ok with a CFB draft. Two a year. High school and portal.
They don’t need collectives bc they’re already making millions, and they can hire elite agents to go get them big endorsement deals. Since you mentioned Dallas, Dak made $15M last year on endorsements, per Forbes. He’s got one of the biggest endorsement portfolios in the NFL. I know it’s not the same as collectives. But was just making the point that just bc the school shares revenue with them, they’ll still be able to get NIL.
I suspect in the not-too-distant future, that will be optional.
I'd have expected you to come up with a better word than "absurd"
But absurd is truly what they are."We know our annual revenue is $50 million, but we really need you, the fans, to help us pay our players."
I think that the NCAA does not allow the schools to fund NIL because some schools are in conferences (SEC and BIG) that pay much better TV money than say the ACC and Big 8. That is so BS. Take the NCAA to Court. If someone threatens to do that, watch the NCAA fold.I'd have expected you to come up with a better word than "absurd"
"We know our annual revenue is $50 million, but we really need you, the fans, to help us pay our players."
Well, that's something to consider. If athletes can be paid directly by schools, which seems to be only a matter of time, revenue inequality will surely be a factor.
Players making money does nothing but cause problems. I know it seems fair and equitable and all that, but in reality, the game simply doesn't work in that scenario.
I was in a hurry. I'll try to do better next time.I'd have expected you to come up with a better word than "absurd"
"We know our annual revenue is $50 million, but we really need you, the fans, to help us pay our players."
It is, indeed. And it seems the only options being considered involved squeezing the tube harder.