Here's a guy who likes Jamont more than some State fans (fishwater...)

[drummer8806]

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I still don't understand how so many alleged State fans have disdain for one of the most talented players to ever wear the Maroon and White. I hope this guy's right about Jamont, it would do the school well for one of our own to do well in The League.

 

[drummer8806]

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I still don't understand how so many alleged State fans have disdain for one of the most talented players to ever wear the Maroon and White. I hope this guy's right about Jamont, it would do the school well for one of our own to do well in The League.

 

[Faustdog]

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I still don't understand how so many alleged State fans have disdain for one of the most talented players to ever wear the Maroon and White. I hope this guy's right about Jamont, it would do the school well for one of our own to do well in The League.

It's amazing. Here's a guy who came to play for us over Florida, Tennessee, Georgetown, and pretty much anywhere else in the country that he could have chosen. He worked and became better for three years and never had any off the court issues. And a considerable portion of our fanbase wants to slam the guy at every opportunity. I don't understand it either.
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[BlindDawg]

Nice write up on Jamont. I agree with most of it. This little nugget stood out to me though...

Mississippi State's most famous hoops alum is either Jeff Malone or Erick Dampier.

How can this guy forget an NBA Hall of Famer and 2 time NBA champion with the Boston Celtics - Bailey Howell? I know, typical ESPN coverage of MSU. Oh well, at least Jamont got some good press.

 

[rhs43]

most fans are just pissed he isn't going to stay one more year when they feel he should. i hope he somehow slips into the first round and has a good career. good luck jamont.

 

[BriantheDawg]

Fishwater and maybe another poster or two on here bash him. I hope he goes first round and has a very successful pro career. There is not one person who posts on this or any other message board that if they had his talent, would be coming back for his senior season. Good luck, Jamont - you will be severely missed next season!!

 

[Faustdog]

Fishwater and maybe another poster or two on here bash him.

You must not have been here during the past three basketball seasons. The Jamont hatred was in full force. He always caught the blame no matter the fact that Randy and Hans went a combined 6-24 for 14 points.
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[thedog]

doesn't include Bailey Howell in State's most famous alumni, he really is lost as a goose!!!

 

[mstateglfr]

10-1 says the average basketball fan doesnt know who Howell even played for some 50 years ago.

 

[fishwater99]

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I still don't understand how so many alleged State fans have disdain for one of the most talented players to ever wear the Maroon and White. I hope this guy's right about Jamont, it would do the school well for one of our own to do well in The League.

J-Money was a great College Player, and I am glad he came to MSU, I just wish we had a coach who knew how to best utilize and develop his game.
I think he is a player without a true position at the next level, a tweener. He is an undersized point forward.
I wish him luck, but he will not play point in the NBA.

Osby may be the best player ever to come to S-Vegas.

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[BlindDawg]

I'd say you're probably right that the average fan doesn't know who Howell is, but this is a guy paid to cover the NBA. He should know.

 

[dogfan96]

he said most famous... I guarantee you 90 out of 100 you asked on the street wouldn't know Bailey Howell from Beetle Bailey.

 

[Stormrider81]

I was just thinking, "you know, some are missing the point that most people didn't really bash Jamont, but rather Stansbury." Then I read your post and you made it all clear.

I'll ask the same question I have asked over and over again knowing that you don't have a good response, but for some reason I'll ask anyway: Who on the team the last 3 years could have played point guard?

 

[fishwater99]

Storm..

I have said it before and I will say it again, Stans failed to recuit a true point guard until this year.
Jamont told Stans he wanted to play the point, so Stans did not try to find a point.
Funny how we found one this year in Bost.

 

[Stormrider81]

"Jamont told Stans he wanted to play the point, so Stans did not try to find a point."

That is a load of crap and you know it. Stansbury moved Jamont to point during his freshman year because noone else could effectively play the position and he kept him for the same reason. We tried to sign Jeremy Wise but that didn't work out. If I'm not mistaken we signed Hans with the intention of having him play PG. You can't honestly believe that Stansbury purposefully didn't sign a "true" point guard. If you do believe that you are either a complete idiot or your hatred of Stansbury is messing with your head.

 

[Temple of the Dawg]

Jamont told Stans he wanted to play the point, so Stans did not try to find a point.

Does the name Monta Ellis mean anything to you? He & Gordon were committed at the same time. Ellis jumped and there wasn't another point. Stans should have had a backup plan, but he didn't. Gordon was the best option for a PG that year, so Stans put him there. Hans was recruited the following season to be the next PG. As we have all seen, that was a failed experiment. I will give you that Stans didn't bring in a PG after Gordon's sophmore season.

Funny how we found one this year in Bost.

Funny how Bost basically played the 2 all through HS and really only played PG exclusively once he got to Hargrave. He seems to have a knack for it from all the stories, but he is not a guy that has tons of experience at PG.

 

[muddawgs33]

Stans should have had a backup plan, but he didn't.

Actually, Stans did have a backup plan. It was Richard Delk, but it didn't work out so he went to his backup, backup plan, which was let your best player handle the ball.

 

[patdog]

he went to his backup, backup plan, which was let your best player handle the ball.

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[Temple of the Dawg]

I had forgotten that one of the Delk sisters played PG in HS. Even further evidence that Stans has been recruiting PGs contrary to fishy's assertion to the contrary.

 

[Stormrider81]

And if someone wants to argue that this was a failure of Stansbury's, meaning signing a quality "true" point guard, then I would agree. Stansbury is responsible for who he gets to campus and who he doesn't, and I have no problem saying he hasn't gotten a quality point guard to campus since Derrick Zimmerman, even though Bowers did a darn good job his senior year after moving over from SG. I just can't see how anyone can honestly believe Stansbury refused to try to sign a point guard, particularly when we have evidence he did try and furthermore that he did sign some that didn't work out. That may be a failure to land a guy that wound up being ultimately capable, but that does not equal lack of effort or refusal.

 

[mstateglfr]

Storm..

I have said it before and I will say it again, Stans failed to recuit a true point guard until this year.
Jamont told Stans he wanted to play the point, so Stans did not try to find a point.
Funny how we found one this year in Bost.

</p>--Ellis was a combo guard that was supposed to come in with Jamont.
--Richard Delk was a PG in HS, and had a shot at playing it at MSU.
--Hansbrough played some PG in HS and AAU.

there have been guards other than Jamont that have come in and could have/did play the point. none played it as well as Jamont. if they had, then they would have been the primary PG instead of Jamont. its really that simple.

as for Bost, he was a combo guard in HS. he was basically a scorer. he wasnt the PG that you have been labeling his as being. and even in prep school it ends up he wasnt the team's main PG. he was once again a combo guard who scored, though he handled the ball and initiated the offense more than before. Hargrave's main PG was Marshall signee Damier Pitts...thats at least what ive read all thru their season.

 

[KurtRambis4]

they're idiots..

 

[DowntownDawg]

....and even though he is without a doubt in the top five in the history of MSU when it comes to talent, he is probably not in my top 10 or 15 favorite players. Something about him always just rubbed the wrong way.

Fire away.

 

[fishwater99]

Jamont came in as a shooting guard.
Monta would have played the point, but we all knew he was not coming to S-Vegas..
Richard Delk was to be a point, but he never got the chance b/c Jamont took that role.
Why? Stans talked to J-Money, and then we were stuck with him at the point form then on.

The next year we got Barry and Ben, neither was a point guard, both played the 2.

This past year we did not sign a PG either, I wonder why?

Now that J-Money was going pro this year or the next we signed Bost.

Stans failed to recuit and sign a PG, b/c J-Money wanted to play so he could go to the NBA.
Now J-Money got his way and he will be drafted...
What did he have on Stans so that he ran the show in S-Vegas?
Any other coach would not have put up with how he ball-hogged and all of his turn-overs at the point.

He has been our best player these past few years, hands down, but he was playing out of position.
Don't get me wrong, J-Money was a great college player, but he would have been just as productive, if not more, if he had a PG to run the show.
Just imagine Rhodes in the paint and J-Money waiting out on the wing ready to drive or pull up for the jumper...
All we needed was a PG to get either of those weapons the ball....
But this never happened b/c Stans and J-Money figured out his only chance in the NBA was at PG.
Time will tell, but I don't see him playing the point in the NBA...