Here's what I know: NCAA regulations and NIL cannot co-exist long term..

[Xenomorph]

The NCAA's goose is cooked. It's just a matter of time.

The SEC schools should stop playing football in its current form. Dissolve the programs.

A new pro football league should be formed and a franchise sold to the collective of each of the 14 (soon 16) schools. Run it like the NFL... high school players enter a draft and teams have salary caps. Media rights get put up for auction.

Franchises lease the already-in-place facilities from the schools. A seismic shift of restructuring occurs in athletic departments but you just have to let it run its natural course. Players sign contracts with the new teams. No more Basket Weaving 101 and worrying about that tiresome academic eligibility. You're paid to play, so play.

Society has spoken and the romantic idea of the college athlete is dead. Now let's go to work and make some money.

 

[WrightGuy821]

What happens to the 50 other sports the NCAA regulates? We can't throw them out just because of a changing football landscape. College football is completely different than the NFL and we don't need to move towards an NFL type model.

 

[Shmuley]

It hasn't been about student-athletes for decades. Time to end the charade.

 

[thekimmer]

It will never work. The romantic idea of the amateur college athlete is not dead. In actuality it is but the idea is not. Killing the idea would kill the sport.

 

[Duke Humphrey]

What happens to the 50 other sports the NCAA regulates? We can't throw them out just because of a changing football landscape. College football is completely different than the NFL and we don't need to move towards an NFL type model.

Football pays for all the other sports. Completely upends the model.

 

[Drebin]

It will never work. The romantic idea of the amateur college athlete is not dead. In actuality it is but the idea is not. Killing the idea would kill the sport.

The sport is dead already. There's over 100 FBS teams but only the same three or four have a chance to win a championship every year, and you know this going into the season. Bowl games have been cheapened and mean nothing anymore. Who gives a damn about watching a Liberty Bowl with 6-6 and 7-5 teams playing each other?

College football has been dead for a while now.

 

[615dawg]

The sport is dead already. There's over 100 FBS teams but only the same three or four have a chance to win a championship every year, and you know this going into the season. Bowl games have been cheapened and mean nothing anymore. Who gives a damn about watching a Liberty Bowl with 6-6 and 7-5 teams playing each other?

College football has been dead for a while now.

The Class of 2022 HS recruiting: 88 of the top 100 players in the nation went to six schools. It is unsustainable.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

The Class of 2022 HS recruiting: 88 of the top 100 players in the nation went to six schools. It is unsustainable.

Now way that stat is real

 

[OG Goat Holder]

The NCAA's goose is cooked. It's just a matter of time.

The SEC schools should stop playing football in its current form. Dissolve the programs.

A new pro football league should be formed and a franchise sold to the collective of each of the 14 (soon 16) schools. Run it like the NFL... high school players enter a draft and teams have salary caps. Media rights get put up for auction.

Franchises lease the already-in-place facilities from the schools. A seismic shift of restructuring occurs in athletic departments but you just have to let it run its natural course. Players sign contracts with the new teams. No more Basket Weaving 101 and worrying about that tiresome academic eligibility. You're paid to play, so play.

Society has spoken and the romantic idea of the college athlete is dead. Now let's go to work and make some money.

These overly negative takes are funny. We aren't going to get another NFL because......we already have the NFL. None of the rest of the leagues have ever worked, and won't ever work, unless they become part of or subsidized by the NFL, similar to MiLB. College isn't pro and won't ever be. They are already making money. This 'seismic change' isn't coming anytime soon.

Now, what could happen over the next 30 years, if we don't get some parity, is the top schools leaving and just playing each other for a new P5 title or something. But the expanded playoff is going to fix some of that and slow down the parity talk.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

It will never work. The romantic idea of the amateur college athlete is not dead. In actuality it is but the idea is not. Killing the idea would kill the sport.

Correct. The second it becomes pro, donations dry up, and it becomes a TV and corporate sport like the NFL, and it's all about entertainment at that point. The passion is gone.

Even though us fans may not like some of the recent changes, we still have that passion for it, or we wouldn't even be here on this board.

It's never as good or bad as it seems.

 

[patdog]

Now way that stat is real

It's a bit exaggerated. But Bama, A&M, Georgia and Ohio St. signed over half the top 100 players in 2022.

 

[TXDawg.sixpack]

The Class of 2022 HS recruiting: 88 of the top 100 players in the nation went to six schools. It is unsustainable.

According to 24/7, 59 of the top 100 went to 6 schools. That said, 5 schools were tied with 4 recruits each, so if you include those, 75 of the Top 100 went to 10 schools.

 

[TXDawg.sixpack]

It's a bit exaggerated. But Bama, A&M, Georgia and Ohio St. signed over half the top 100 players in 2022.

That’s more accurate:
TAMU - 17
Bama - 15
UGA - 9
OSU - 9
LSU - 5
PSU, Clemson, USC, Michigan, & ND with 4 each.

Top 4 got 50; Top 10 got 75.

TAMU’s numbers are ridiculous…!

 

[patdog]

That’s more accurate:
TAMU - 17
Bama - 15
UGA - 9
OSU - 9
LSU - 5
PSU, Clemson, USC, Michigan, & ND with 4 each.

Top 4 got 50; Top 10 got 75.

TAMU’s numbers are ridiculous…!

And it's not like their classes cut off with the top 100. Looks like Bama, GA and A&M have about 7 of the next 20 recruits as well.

 

[WrightGuy821]

That’s more accurate:
TAMU - 17
Bama - 15
UGA - 9
OSU - 9
LSU - 5
PSU, Clemson, USC, Michigan, & ND with 4 each.

Top 4 got 50; Top 10 got 75.

TAMU’s numbers are ridiculous…!

Wild that Texas A&M keeps getting these top recruits. Money speaks louder than performance for HS players ig

 

[Dawgg]

Who gives a damn about watching a Liberty Bowl with 6-6 and 7-5 teams playing each other?

I do.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

The NCAA's goose is cooked. It's just a matter of time.

The SEC schools should stop playing football in its current form. Dissolve the programs.

A new pro football league should be formed and a franchise sold to the collective of each of the 14 (soon 16) schools. Run it like the NFL... high school players enter a draft and teams have salary caps. Media rights get put up for auction.

Franchises lease the already-in-place facilities from the schools. A seismic shift of restructuring occurs in athletic departments but you just have to let it run its natural course. Players sign contracts with the new teams. No more Basket Weaving 101 and worrying about that tiresome academic eligibility. You're paid to play, so play.

Society has spoken and the romantic idea of the college athlete is dead. Now let's go to work and make some money.

You are flat ignoring the hundreds of hours a week of TV programming that the current system provides. That is what pays for all of it. There are millions of eyes that advertisers get each week. AS long as that continues, it will never change.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

The Class of 2022 HS recruiting: 88 of the top 100 players in the nation went to six schools. It is unsustainable.

I have written the fix for this many times and it keeps getting 'd on. You have to take scholarships away from the schools that are in the top 30 weighted to more for schools that finish higher and are in the playoffs. For example, You win the NC you lose 7 the next year, runnerup loses 6, quarter finalists 5, etc to some sort of formula. It does NOT have to stay balanced. Those lost scholarships can be distributed to other sports or existing walk-ons so opportunities for students stay at the same level.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I do.

I would imagine these NIL deals also have a little contractual obligation to play in bowl games. So they will probably get a little bit better in the NIL era.

 

[The Peeper]

Wild that Texas A&M keeps getting these top recruits. Money speaks louder than performance for HS players ig

And after 35 total years of coaching, Jumbo FIshing still can't develop them no matter how much money they cost him

 

[thatsbaseball]

The NCAA has regulations ? Oh you're talking about the rules we have to obey but the "blue bloods" don't.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Wild that Texas A&M keeps getting these top recruits. Money speaks louder than performance for HS players ig

How many of their guys are from Texas? A lot of highly rated kids from Texas are routinely overhyped. Those kids gets the best coaching and s&c in the country. They look like monsters in HS and once they get to college they don’t develop as much as others

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Wild that Texas A&M keeps getting these top recruits. Money speaks louder than performance for HS players ig

When you are motivated by short-term greed, you generally probably aren't the hardest working type kid/player.

Then add in that Texas kids generally are over-coached and over-hyped, and don't have a lot of room to develop.

1 + 2 = Texas A&M. If you want this model to work, you better land a Vince Young. And what's funny is, they had one - Kyler Murray. And ran him off. And well hell, they actually had one pan out in Johnny Football and probably SHOULD have maybe got a shot at a natty in 2012. If you remember, a hurricane reschedule had them facing Florida in Game 1 and they lost a close game, then took off.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

The sport is dead already. There's over 100 FBS teams but only the same three or four have a chance to win a championship every year, and you know this going into the season. Bowl games have been cheapened and mean nothing anymore. Who gives a damn about watching a Liberty Bowl with 6-6 and 7-5 teams playing each other?

College football has been dead for a while now.

Truth.

The number of bowl games will decrease as the playoffs expand further.

 

[Drebin]

I do.

Well, that makes one of us.

 

[Dawgg]

Well, that makes one of us.

That's fine. I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, but I 17ing love college football, regardless of the stakes or circumstances.

I mean... Last year's Liberty Bowl was between a 7-5 and 6-6 team, but it was a really great game that went to 3 overtimes. I don't get how you don't derive at least a little bit of joy and entertainment from that, but to each their own.

 

[aTotal360]

I have written the fix for this many times and it keeps getting 'd on. You have to take scholarships away from the schools that are in the top 30 weighted to more for schools that finish higher and are in the playoffs. For example, You win the NC you lose 7 the next year, runnerup loses 6, quarter finalists 5, etc to some sort of formula. It does NOT have to stay balanced. Those lost scholarships can be distributed to other sports or existing walk-ons so opportunities for students stay at the same level.

NIL that erases idea, no?

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

NIL that erases idea, no?

I don't think so. In my example Georgia would have 7 less scholarships to offer this season. TCU 6 less. Michigan and Ohio State 5 less and so on. So unless there are players that choose NIL money and then pay there own way, it would still force some top talent to go somewhere else of their choosing. I don't expect players to give up that free college. I don't think their ego would allow it. Cutting that check for $40 to $80 thousand will be hard on a guy who thinks he deserves a free ride. You would have 30 or 40 or more scholarships less at those blue blood schools to be distributed. They will still get the most sought after players, but more 4 stars, and maybe some lower 5 stars, will be available for other places.

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

Don't count the NCAA out yet, they are pressing hard with lobbying Congress to bring NIL under their control. We shall see.

 

[Called3rdstrikedawg]

I only caught the tail end of the conversation Sunday when the SEC Commissioner was in the booth with the Announcers for the Championship game. But he was discussing how the conferences are trying to find a fix for the runaway NIL and the portals. He mentioned something about Congress involvement. Maybe some of you heard the full conversation.

 

[Colonel Kang]

These overly negative takes are funny. We aren't going to get another NFL because......we already have the NFL. None of the rest of the leagues have ever worked, and won't ever work, unless they become part of or subsidized by the NFL, similar to MiLB. College isn't pro and won't ever be. They are already making money. This 'seismic change' isn't coming anytime soon.

Now, what could happen over the next 30 years, if we don't get some parity, is the top schools leaving and just playing each other for a new P5 title or something. But the expanded playoff is going to fix some of that and slow down the parity talk.

The top P5 schools won’t ever just play each other because that would mean a few of them go 2-10 and destroy their status and fan base. They need the other teams to beat up on. The sport is broke.

 

[Colonel Kang]

Correct. The second it becomes pro, donations dry up, and it becomes a TV and corporate sport like the NFL, and it's all about entertainment at that point. The passion is gone.

Even though us fans may not like some of the recent changes, we still have that passion for it, or we wouldn't even be here on this board.

It's never as good or bad as it seems.

In the modern age, where people have options, the sport must have more parity. The current structure won’t work for much longer

 

[Colonel Kang]

You are flat ignoring the hundreds of hours a week of TV programming that the current system provides. That is what pays for all of it. There are millions of eyes that advertisers get each week. AS long as that continues, it will never change.

Only because the NFL chooses to not play on Saturdays. If the NFL ever chooses to play on Saturdays, CFB is done unless massive structure changes take place.

 

[Colonel Kang]

That's fine. I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, but I 17ing love college football, regardless of the stakes or circumstances.

I mean... Last year's Liberty Bowl was between a 7-5 and 6-6 team, but it was a really great game that went to 3 overtimes. I don't get how you don't derive at least a little bit of joy and entertainment from that, but to each their own.

I love CFB as well, but it could be so much better

 

[Colonel Kang]

Don't count the NCAA out yet, they are pressing hard with lobbying Congress to bring NIL under their control. We shall see.

Without subpoena power, any oversight organization is cooked.

its why we need players to unionize and a CBA created. CBAs are legally enforceable

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

If you are a coach you don’t want to say anything negative about NIL either publicly or privately. You want to say “I hope the kids make even more money in the future on NIL”.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

The top P5 schools won’t ever just play each other because that would mean a few of them go 2-10 and destroy their status and fan base. They need the other teams to beat up on. The sport is broke.

If the money speaks loud enough, they will. Look at Texas, Oklahoma, UCLA and USC, who have now willingly chosen a harder path to winning.

 

[LordMcBuckethead]

The NCAA's goose is cooked. It's just a matter of time.

The SEC schools should stop playing football in its current form. Dissolve the programs.

A new pro football league should be formed and a franchise sold to the collective of each of the 14 (soon 16) schools. Run it like the NFL... high school players enter a draft and teams have salary caps. Media rights get put up for auction.

Franchises lease the already-in-place facilities from the schools. A seismic shift of restructuring occurs in athletic departments but you just have to let it run its natural course. Players sign contracts with the new teams. No more Basket Weaving 101 and worrying about that tiresome academic eligibility. You're paid to play, so play.

Society has spoken and the romantic idea of the college athlete is dead. Now let's go to work and make some money.

Who would pay to see crappy players (nonNFL) play a game that is meaningless. There already is a large percentage of fans that do not like NIL as it currently screws with the mentality of being a member of a school. That is its charm.

 

[GloryDawg]

I do.

I enjoy all the bowls. Some of them are really fun to watch. Many of the lower tier bowls are more competitive than the big bowls and that makes them fun to watch. If not I turn to another one. Plus, more football.

 

[Dawgg]

I enjoy all the bowls. Some of them are really fun to watch. Many of the lower tier bowls are more competitive than the big bowls and that makes them fun to watch. If not I turn to another one. Plus, more football.

Right! Some random Sun Belt team playing a MAC team in a 3rd tier stadium in a bowl sponsored by regional auto parts store or fried chicken chain? Sign me up! I love it.