Hey Joel
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Well for one, it is my job to promote our university, but two, I do believe this is a mature team that fights and busts its rear end. To me, that’s something exciting to get behind. Today sucked. But as Garrison said, the season is only a quarter of the way done. It’s OK to be frustrated and at the same time, believe it’s a group with a ton of potential.
Mature isn’t throwing up BS 3 pointers 10 seconds into the shot clock.
Not gonna comment on effort Bc I don’t think it has been bad.
Serious question - when is the last time we overachieved preseason expectations?
Not gonna comment on effort Bc I don’t think it has been bad.
Serious question - when is the last time we overachieved preseason expectations?
This season ended today. NCAA or bust. It shouldn’t be too much to ask. They needed quality non con wins and they didn’t get them. But they had the chance. Mature would be knowing that and getting it done. Especially at home. And we have being talking about potential for 5 years. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. But in this case, it’s fool me about 5 times.
It’s his job to write about and promote the teams. What do you expect him to do? You want him to not do his job and get fired because you’re mad about losing a game?
You do a great job Joel. I click the ones I want and move past the others. It’s not that hard. My word.
You do a great job Joel. I click the ones I want and move past the others. It’s not that hard. My word.
It just shows what we are willing to settle for. An athletic department actually thinks it’s a good idea to put out articles that are filled with drivel. We aren’t stupid. We watch the product and know that it’s crap.
I know there’s probably no pleasing you here, but I’ll play along nonetheless. It’s not crap we had two veterans and team leaders immediately return to the floor after a loss to go to work. It’s not crap that we’ve had teams in the past that probably would’ve packed it in down 14. This one didn’t. Twice. It’s not crap there is a lot of experience on this team and they’re not gonna panic and they still believe they can figure this out.
Now you’re free to think I should be unemployed (although I’d like to note I do a little more than try to find the bright spots in losses) but I think it’s important our fans/alumni/prospects know this team isn’t sitting around twiddling its thumbs.
You’re right. They should pay Fighting Irish and 047dog to take a steamy **** on a different portion of the athletic department each week.
How dare they hire someone to do marketing and public relations and put out positive articles! What the actual 17?!?!?
Don’t they know we only want to hear totally realistic articles with only faint and measured praised sprinkled in to heaping dumps of negativity? And don’t get me started on what people outside the fanbase might think if they read one of these articles. They might feel like this fanbase is something people actually WANT to be a part of. God forbid.
May we come to your place of work and tell you how ****** you are for doing your job exactly the way it should be done?
You seriously cannot think an in house writer is going to write a negatively focused column. That would be like car manufacturer putting out a commercial saying a competitor won this year's JD Power award for initial quality and they came in next to last.
You seriously cannot think an in house writer is going to write a negatively focused column. That would be like car manufacturer putting out a commercial saying a competitor won this year's JD Power award for initial quality and they came in next to last.
You know what is crap? Losing...AGAIN. If they start winning games like this then it won’t be crap. But losing them is crap...and that’s what matters. Literally nothing else matters. Not the extra shots or “the comeback” or the “potential”. Winning is what matters. Beating good teams is what matters. And this program does not do that enough. And where are those veterans in the game? Why do they continue to make the same dumb mistakes? Extra shots don’t make up for that. They need to extra decision making practice.
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How? What matters other than winning? That’s literally all that matters. They don’t do it enough for the talent they have
Your* right!!!! Stan's had us in the final four EVERY year he was here, and bah gawd we should expect no less right now!!!!!!!!!!!
In sports journalism - especially when you are on the staff of an athletic department - writing articles that put your employer in a good light is what matters.
You are an idiot. Nobody said anything about the final four. Just make that tournament. That’s literally all we are asking for.
Blow it out your ***. Are you 17? Or just high maintenance? Making the tournament and losing on day 1 sucks ***. It's a complete waste of time for that and definitely a waste of all your posting energy.
The fact I want them to make the NCAA makes me 17?? Or high maintenance. The fact that I want the university to commit to winning in EVERYTHING makes me 17? That’s what we hired the guy to do.
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Show me on the doll were Howland touched you. I know I've said this before but the 96 basketball team never would've made it through the season with this part of the folks that inhabit this board. Howland is part of the issue we have but if you think the problems all come from with his coaching your wrong and don't know much about the current game of college basketball.
We've been to the Final Four once in our history. I don't think that is a reasonable measure of success for our program.
But if you want to compare to Stansbury:
Stansbury never went more than 3 years in a row without making the Tournament (first 3 seasons and last 3 seasons). He never went more than 4 years in a row without winning a game in the Tournament (last 4 seasons).
There have been 8 NCAA Tournaments since we fired him. We've been once and are 0-1.
I just want you to know
I love your profile pic and i understand the reference. That is all
Look, there is nothing wrong with bringing up our failures, especially when the same ole same ole happens with Howland's teams. We have seen this same exact season play out over and over again at MSU. The NCAA tourney is all we are asking. Losing week 1 is better than playing deep into the NIT. I feel like, the vast majority of the Howland criticism is valid. Year after year we see failure on the court in the same fashions. Poor offensive execution. Poor movement without the ball. Other team gets wide open looks off of a high ball screen all day. Absolutely refuse to make defensive adjustments, full court press, 1-3-1, whatever. Man to man is getting destroyed by lesser teams. That is concerning. Combo that with our really terrible half court offense that we see year in and out with superior talent.
As far as JT goes, it's his job to write articles that are kind of tone deaf to paint the team in a brighter light.
As far as JT goes, it's his job to write articles that are kind of tone deaf to paint the team in a brighter light.
100% agree. Thunder and Lightning Podcast is the pits since Joel departed. It is like the podcast of the little train that couldn’t!
You mean like the veteran Minnesota team did? Difference is they made more of them. If our "BS 3 pointers" would have fell and we won the game, you would be singing our praises.
I wouldn't say it is the pits but it is less enjoyable. The content is fine I just get a little tired of the constant bickering schtick. Faulk seems to be a real 'get off my lawn' kind of guy.
Same things could be said about Gene, but that hasnt stopped most here from making fun of the goob for years now.
I was there and just finishing my last semester. I went to every home game. We also got the **** kicked out of us by Kentucky at home. I was working with a camera guy for ESPN underneath the goal.
Unless you have Gonzaga talent it's all about getting hot later in the season.
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