How much has Carroll improved between Liberty & Ruston?

Brutius

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He will throw 20 interceptions in Ruston, our team will have negative 532 yards of offense, and we will lose 51-0.
 

Brutius

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I don't see how we will score a single point this year. I keep having dreams about us getting a washed up high school coach to take over for Croom so we can run the spread. It's so easy, anybody can do it. I think we could run the spread with DawgAtAuburn as QB, me as running back and Dawgstudent as TE. All you do is spread the field. It's so easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Brutius

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you need to read heydogs post and learn to control your anger toward people that have different views than you do. Hell, I didn't even include my Obama signature in that reply.

But to help you with finding what I am talking about, I have cut and pasted it:

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Coach34

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on expectations for Saturdays game, you would have read where i predicted us to roll to 320 yards of offense...high-octane Crooms at his finest

As far as Carroll, he has to be better than the last 2 games he played last year...that was pitiful....
 

patdog

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Indndawg said:
Its difficult to quantify but I think he'll be significantly improved.
One thing's for sure. He's disguised any improvement well in the spring game and scrimmages both in the spring and in the fall.
 

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Brutius said:
He will throw 20 interceptions in Ruston, our team will have negative 532 yards of offense, and we will lose 51-0.
Wouldn't that be a dandy?

I think Carroll has improved steadily. He talks with a little more confidence and he has put on some more muscle in the offseason. He has had time to learn the playbooks more thoroughly and like Croom puts it..."He knows the system." Something Croom has repeated and repeated about our offense getting a grasp on the system or learning the system.
 

Bulldog Backer

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...that we are rotating QB's by series of possession. That sounds like something Spurrier would do back a dozen years ago.
 

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Bulldog Backer said:
...that we are rotating QB's by series of possession. That sounds like something Spurrier would do back a dozen years ago.

Great plan. Too bad it never worked for Spurrier. Whenever he was unable to settle on one QB, his offense struggled. Whenever he was able to choose one and stick with it, his offense clicked.

I'd be hoping that Croom is going to use La. Tech and SELa to figure out which of the two QBs needs to be the permanent starter, and then he'd stick with one. Otherwise, your offense will probably struggle more than it would otherwise.

Two QB systems rarely work unless they are different style QBs running entirely different packages. For that matter, most successful QB systems rely on one QB to be the main starter, running all of the primary offensive sets, and then having another come in as a change of pace to run different sets.

Good examples are Chris Leak and Tim Tebow. Tebow was the change of pace guy running different sets, while Leak was the true starting QB running the primary offense. DJ Shockely and David Greene worked as a 2 QB system because Shockley played the role of Tebow to Greene's Leak. Show me a 2 QB system that worked consistently when both QBs were essentially interchangable starters running the same sets. There really haven't been many, if any.
 

Shmuley

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I may actually find myself 'hoping' for Woody to get back to full speed so we can go back to just being one of the shittiest offenses in the nation, and not both world class ****** plus schizophrenically asinine.

I'm willing to bet this info is BS.
 

3000lbchicken

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cost us games. That, in itself, is an improvement overall for our offense, not Carroll. It was so frustrating watching our offense give up field position on every series or turn it over with multiple int's. We were right there in some games and our own offense would kill us - PICK 6~!

Carroll is good enough to manage the game and not kill us. That's all you can ask for.
 

RebelBruiser

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nothing worse than when one QB gets in a groove but he doesn't play because it's the other's turn.

Which is again why I say that it only works if you're using them for different sets like Florida did with Tebow/Leak. They alternated them during possessions at times to switch from Leak sets to Tebow sets. It wasn't a situation of giving the ball to one QB for one possession and giving it to another for another possession. It was mixing and matching within a possession based on down and distance and based on the flow of the game. That's the best way for a 2 QB system to work.

Even with Shockley and Greene at UGA, it was mismanaged at times, because Richt would sometimes do like you said, and he'd bring in one for an entire possession and another for the next possession, instead of mixing them into the same possessions with different sets.
 

Dawg in a pile

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Exactly, Croom has never said that Carroll wouldn't be the clear starter. Carroll is the starter, Lee is the backup, and Lee will come in every now and then for a series.

not sure where Backer's getting that info.
Out of thin air.
 
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