DJ throws it from what looks to be just shy of the 37. The ball is caught at about the 36.5, maybe slightly more. The angle makes it a bit hard to tell, but there's NO way that's a forward pass. At the very very best, it's a lateral.
How was this a forward pass?
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I've been asking the same question ... even after reply ... the line of the ball seems to go back one half yard ... even if it were
parallel from the release to the landing point, that would be considered a backward lateral as it must be a FORWARD pass ... I would love to hear an official explanation (but I am still waiting for the Big East to explain the first down call from the USC-Michigan game years ago) ... life is good - Peace!
parallel from the release to the landing point, that would be considered a backward lateral as it must be a FORWARD pass ... I would love to hear an official explanation (but I am still waiting for the Big East to explain the first down call from the USC-Michigan game years ago) ... life is good - Peace!
Yeah, we won, so I guess who cares, but it just seems so obviously NOT a forward pass.
Isn't there a process to submit something to the conference after the fact about questionable calls? If so, it would behoove us to do so, simply for quality control.
It wasn't. My clemson fan of a wife said it was clearly a turnover. I think the review crew was just bailing out the official who blew it dead. It could have easily been a Gamecock TD had he not blown the whistle. And that's what that ref should have done, let it play out, then have a review. Then the review would likely have been in favor of the turnover.
This should be standard procedure.
The angles make it tough to see whether it forward or not but if you look at the shadows - the shadow of the ball is right on the 38 when he lets it go and it's just short of it when he catches it.
After each game the coaches can submit disputed calls to the league office for review, and they get feedback on it. Not sure who they submit it to for inter-conference games (maybe whichever league's refs were used).
We should definitely submit it. Doesn't change anything but hopefully adds to quality control down the road.
I'm sure they'll say something about the angle making it impossible to tell, but it's not that close. It's debatable whether it was backward or lateral, but not forward. Not close.
The bigger question is how did they review that film and come to that conclusion? Having the ability to look at it frame by frame, their ruling is very concerning and makes you wonder the thinking/motive of the SEC officials.
When an SEC team plays on the road, it's an SEC crew. When they play at Willy B it will be an ACC crew. That's supposed to be a way of ensuring there's no home cooking by refs. But of course refs have biases. And SEC refs know SC better than they know clemson. For instance, if a team has a reputation for offensive holding they'll be looking for it from that team and not the other. On the play where our WR was flagged for a pretty blatant facemask, you could see defensive hands to face in the same frame. If that had been an offsetting penalty, it could have resulted in 4 more points on that drive.
Reputation for sure. Threw a critical PI on Cam Smith on a critical 3rd down. I didn't see anything.
I don't remember any flags on Clemson with the exception of the booth initiated targeting.
Replay is a waste of time when they miss the call anyway, which they do frequently and did in this case. Not a forward pass.
Agreed it won't change anything for this game. But maybe it leads to more officials not blowing the whistle on plays like these in the future.
Yep, blowing the whistle on the play was a major mistake as well and not what they are taught to do. Let it play out and then review is the way it's done. SEC office should be made to comment on that alone if nothing else!
And that was impressive because
A. I didn't see it in real time and
B. clemson got away with a bad targeting against ND. I don't like the rule, but it has to be applied equally. The booth was right.
If it's the one I'm thinking about, replay showed that Cam had a handful of the receiver's jersey about waist high.
Hard for them to draw a straight line on the screen and they aren’t good at counting if they don’t use their fingers and toes. So, drawing a conclusion around an event between the 36 and 37 yard lines was too much to ask.
