how we compare to memphis

[1msudawg]

All this talk about us playing Memphis in the second round, and us compairing well with them got me wondering exactly how we compare. So here is an overall comparison and national ranking of most of the major categories. Memphis has a SOS of 27. MSU has an SOS of 58. http://www.kenpom.com/rpi.php.
I still am not sure how Memphis has a higher SOS..

memphis
<table class="statstable" width="100%" align="center"> <tbody> <tr class="heading" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"> <td align="middle">Category</td> <td align="right">Rank</td> <td align="right">Actual</td> <td align="middle"></td> <td align="right"></td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Scoring Offense</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">18</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">79.7</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Scoring Defense</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">20</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">60.6</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Scoring Margin</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">2</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">19.1</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Field-Goal Percentage</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">55</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">46.6</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Field-Goal Percentage Defense</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">6</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">38.3</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Three-Point Field Goals Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">55</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">7.9</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Three-Point Field-Goal Percentage</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">164</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">35.0</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Free-Throw Percentage</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">326</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">59.6</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Rebound Margin</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">12</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">6.5</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Assists Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">29</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">16.0</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Blocked Shots Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">10</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">6.1</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Steals Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">28</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">8.7</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Won-Lost Percentage</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">1</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">97.1</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Turnovers Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">24</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">12.2</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Personal Fouls Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">93</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">17.6</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Assist Turnover Ratio</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">13</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">1.31</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

MSU
<table class="statstable" width="100%" align="center"> <tbody> <tr class="heading" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"> <td align="middle">Category</td> <td align="right">Rank</td> <td align="right">Actual</td> <td align="middle"></td> <td align="right"></td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Scoring Offense</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">93</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">73.1</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Scoring Defense</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">89</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">65.1</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Scoring Margin</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">43</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">8.0</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Field-Goal Percentage</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">73</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">46.1</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Field-Goal Percentage Defense</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">2</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">36.8</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Three-Point Field Goals Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">136</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">7.0</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Three-Point Field-Goal Percentage</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">225</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">33.4</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Free-Throw Percentage</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">295</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">64.4</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Rebound Margin</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">41</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">4.5</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Assists Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">169</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">13.2</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Blocked Shots Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">2</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">7.9</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Steals Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">233</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">6.0</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Won-Lost Percentage</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">58</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">68.8</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Turnovers Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">228</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">15.3</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Personal Fouls Per Game</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">45</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">16.6</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">Assist Turnover Ratio</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">210</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">0.87</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"> </td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

Take from this what you will. We are better in some and worse in others.

edited to add: I had links to the rankins but since I closed the window on NCAA.com they stopped working.. you can find them from here: http://www.ncaa.com/statistics/default.aspx?id=78104

 

[Cains Major]

I think we can thump those bastards. Baaaa, Baaa.

 

[3000lbchicken]

delete</p>

 

[beachbumdawg]

Listening to the "Pulse" on ESPN radio on the way to the gym this afternoon; Gottlieb thinks Oregon presents more of a challenge for Memphis than State because Oregon has a "true" point guard and stated that Memphis has run almost every team out of the gym this year that didnt have a "true" type point guard.....didnt go as far as to say MSU would lose in the 1st round .....was just asked who he thought would present more of a problem for Memphis in the second round.....only espn talking head i have heard/watched say this though

 

[KentuckyDawg13]

That's MSU's ranking in FT %...man, that's freaking ridiculous.

Looks like the turnovers and rebounds are the key indicators. Everything else is pretty close, mostly leaning towards UM. But the rebounding is the key for MSU.

Having a true PG would help against the athletic Mempho, but seeing Gordon school some Memphis bitches would be nice to see...

We need to worry about stopping Oregon's strength before looking forward to the big-headed monster from Melvis.

 

[DerHntr]

<table class="statstable" width="100%" align="center"> <tbody> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Scoring Offense">Scoring Offense</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">39</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">76.8</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"></td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Scoring Defense">Scoring Defense</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">254</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">72.4</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Scoring Margin">Scoring Margin</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">96</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">4.4</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Field-Goal Percentage">Field-Goal Percentage</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">12</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">48.5</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Field-Goal Percentage Defense">Field-Goal Percentage Defense</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">209</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">44.3</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Three-Point Field Goals Per Game">Three-Point Field Goals Per Game</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">25</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">8.7</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Three-Point Field-Goal Percentage">Three-Point Field-Goal Percentage</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">11</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">40.1</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Free-Throw Percentage">Free-Throw Percentage</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">167</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">68.9</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Rebound Margin">Rebound Margin</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">115</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">1.9</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Assists Per Game">Assists Per Game</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">71</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">14.9</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Blocked Shots Per Game">Blocked Shots Per Game</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">241</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">2.5</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Steals Per Game">Steals Per Game</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">319</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">4.6</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Won-Lost Percentage">Won-Lost Percentage</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">114</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">58.1</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Turnovers Per Game">Turnovers Per Game</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">42</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">12.6</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Personal Fouls Per Game">Personal Fouls Per Game</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">132</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">18.1</td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="left"></td> <td nowrap="nowrap" align="right"> </td> </tr> <tr class="medsmtext"> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><a class="bluelink" title="View rankings for Assist Turnover Ratio">Assist Turnover Ratio</a></td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">36</td> <td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="right">1.18</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
as has been stated before, three pointers are going to be key in the game against the Ducks. it would be typical if we lost at the tournament because of the damn three point. the fact that they are hitting 40% is a bit scary.

 

[ESPNDawg]

That is Memphis at #326

 

[jakldawg]

From this NCAA tournament preview:

(8) Mississippi State vs. (9) Oregon, 7:25
If the threes are falling for 5-6 Oregon guard Tajuan Porter, look out. Otherwise, the Ducks will go down quickly. Mississippi State is a good defensive club, but Porter doesn't care. He hoists 'em from 30 feet. I'll go with Porter's jumper for one game. What the heck.
Second round: Loss to Memphis

Well...crap. Should we go Cheney on this guy?

 

[Agentdog]

Memphis' stats tell me nothing as they have been padded by playing in GarbageUSA. However, Memphis is a good ballclub.

Comparing State and Memphis, the thing that concerns me is 6-7 Douglas-Roberts who is shooting the 3s at 45%. Again, he plays in GUSA but from what I have seen he is very athletic and quick. I don't see any guards on our team that are athletic enough to guard him. Also, they present a matchup problem downlow with Dozier. He will be a load for Vanardo.

Anyway, no need to get into it any further as we still have a ton of work to do to get past Oregon. But I think Jamont creates the same matchup problem for Oregon as Douglas creates for us.</p>

 

[Xenomorph]

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[MSUArrowCS]

a mismatch on the perimeter with Douglas-Roberts would be Foster and Thornton all over again.

But yeah, let's get Oregon first. We've got to get it going from the perimeter on our end of the floor, or it'll be hard to overcome a surge from anyone.