How Would Kirby Have Done At Carolina?

Fried Chicken

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The story goes Tanner was with Kirby, ready to go when Georgia fired Richt and made sure they got Smart. At the time, I thought Smart would’ve been a logical hire, but no sure thing.

It’s crazy, but I could see where Kirby came here and would’ve been fired after 5-6 years. It would’ve come down to how he could recruit.

Smart has 2 National Championships at age 47. Saban got his 2nd at 57. Georgia doesn’t appear to be slowing down anytime soon and Kirby isn’t leaving Georgia. Doesn’t bode well for us. At least divisions are going away.
 

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About the same , but it would have taken 3 times as long to accomplish. My honest assessment and no wishful thinking.
 

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He would've done well, but that means 8-9 wins/year well. Maybe 10 wins occasionally. But it would have taken some time to get there. Kirby to UGA is starting to look like the kind of a perfect marriage of a great coach at a school where it's much easier to recruit, like Saban to Bama. Many coaches prior to both Smart and Saban couldn't get UGA and Bama over the hump. You get the right guy, and boom. The biggest difference, is Smart is currently 9 years younger than Saban was when he first arrived at Bama, so there's a LONG way to go for him at UGA. Gvein that it's alma mater, and UGA can pay as well as anyone, he ain't leaving for any other college job. As long as he resists the siren song of the NFL, we're looking at a couple decades of this.
 
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Why are you so sure it’s Kirby? I mean it seem to come together when Muschamp arrived! And yes, that is sarcasm.
 

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Shane Beamer talks about being with Smart day 1 and seeing the Saban process in this quote. I think being there from day 1, and seeing the process, probably did help Beamer.

“Kirby Smart made me a better football coach. That was a really beneficial two years to be with him. It was a great opportunity to one coach in a place like Georgia [and] live in a city like Athens, but to come in and see the whole Nick Saban [philosophy of] the process but see it implemented from day one... There’s a lot of things that we do here that are directly from things that I took from my time at Georgia… when you talk about all of the places that I’ve as a coach and coaches that I’ve taken things from as far as this organization and how we try and structure stuff, a lot of it came from my time with Kirby [Smart]."

More in line with OP :)

Kirby Smart Was 'Really Close' to Taking South Carolina Job in 2015, Wife Says​

Due to his success as a defensive coordinator for Alabama, Kirby Smart was one of the most popular names on the coaching market in 2015. Before he eventually signed a contract with Georgia, he had discussions with another SEC program.
According to Smart's wife, Mary Beth Smart, he was really close to taking the South Carolina job. Of course, that was before Georgia came in with an offer he couldn't refuse.
"We were really close to taking [the] South Carolina [offer] at the time,” Mary Beth Smart said during an appearance on 960 The Ref. “The AD [Ray Tanner] and one of the athletic administration guys were in the kitchen meeting with us that morning Coach [Mark] Richt was fired. It was leading down that road. The way the timing fell for him was really special."
 

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Someone close to Kirby Smart( his wife Mary Beth Smart) confirmed Ray Tanner did what he could to target Smart and hire him. Then UGA took radical action firing Richt to make sure that did not happen. Would Smart have been successful here? No one knows. He is a relentless recruiter. One thing of interest to me was the fact he sat in the living room of 2 of the Heisman finalists. Stroud and Williams. Both visited UGA before deciding elsewhere but it shows he aims for the top drawer of talent. Bennett the grandson of a former S. C. qb was right under his nose. Another note. I suspect he would have tried to lure Muschamp as his dc.
 
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He would've done well, but that means 8-9 wins/year well. Maybe 10 wins occasionally. But it would have taken some time to get there. Kirby to UGA is starting to look like the kind of a perfect marriage of a great coach at a school where it's much easier to recruit, like Saban to Bama. Many coaches prior to both Smart and Saban couldn't get UGA and Bama over the hump. You get the right guy, and boom. The biggest difference, is Smart is currently 9 years younger than Saban was when he first arrived at Bama, so there's a LONG way to go for him at UGA. Gvein that it's alma mater, and UGA can pay as well as anyone, he ain't leaving for any other college job. As long as he resists the siren song of the NFL, we're looking at a couple decades of this.
IMO, if the NFL calls, he'll have a conversation with SOS.
 

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The story goes Tanner was with Kirby, ready to go when Georgia fired Richt and made sure they got Smart. At the time, I thought Smart would’ve been a logical hire, but no sure thing.

It’s crazy, but I could see where Kirby came here and would’ve been fired after 5-6 years. It would’ve come down to how he could recruit.

Smart has 2 National Championships at age 47. Saban got his 2nd at 57. Georgia doesn’t appear to be slowing down anytime soon and Kirby isn’t leaving Georgia. Doesn’t bode well for us. At least divisions are going away.
Smart would've done great wherever he landed. Doesn't make it easier that he's at his alma mater...probably harder....to do what he's done. He was my first pick at the time. GA fired Richt because we were about to get him. B@stards.
 

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1. He would have been here and not at UGA (which gives us a better chance at SECCG).
2. He would have done well....and if he stayed, eventually built something similar to UGA.
3. He may have never recruited the level of talent he has at UGA, but we'd still be winning.
4. Don't forget Stetson Bennett was a lowly 2* recruit who had now won back-back NCs. That's coaching.
 
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It would have been cataclysmically tragic for him had things fallen differently. Georgia will always have more of the wherewithal it takes to win championships - I said CHAMPIONSHIPS - than South Carolina will. New Years Day Six Bowl is the ceiling for us.
 
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I'm not sure Tanner would have given him the resources Georgia did. Georgia is a huge beast when it comes to money and resources and their AD opened up the checkbook to Kirby. Kirby hired tons of support staff and paid big money for assistants and coordinators. Georgia's recruiting budget was already big but Kirby put it on steroids. Tanner couldn't have given Kirby the gift of being able to recruit Georgia like Kirby naturally has in Athens.

I think Kirby would have done well here but not back to back championships good. I think 8-9 win seasons would be the norm and 10 and 11 win seasons would not be alien.
 
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KingWard

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I'm not sure Tanner would have given him the resources Georgia did. Georgia is a huge beast when it comes to money and resources and their AD opened up the checkbook to Kirby. Kirby hired tons of support staff and paid big money for assistants and coordinators. Georgia's recruiting budget was already big but Kirby put it on steroids. Tanner couldn't have given Kirby the gift of being able to recruit Georgia like Kirby naturally has in Athens.

I think Kirby would have done well here but not back to back championships good. I think 8-9 win seasons would be the norm and 10 and 11 win seasons would not be alien.
He wouldn't have HAD them to give - not then and not ever. We need some huge CORPORATE partnerships - they kind that pay you millions yearly to name everything after them, to get close to what Georgia has.
 

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He wouldn't have HAD them to give - not then and not ever. We need some huge CORPORATE partnerships - they kind that pay you millions yearly to name everything after them, to get close to what Georgia has.
Yep....the BOT actually hired a President whose primary purpose was to cut expenses. That, sadly, is where we are.
 
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This is a bit off-topic but when Saban retires, who do they make their first offer to? Like Dooley, I do not ever see Smart leaving Georgia until he retires from the field and takes over as their AD.