This is an awful South Carolina team and we are so unprepared. That’s on him. I was wanting consistency in a coach but the portal has him unmatched and overwhelmed.
I’m on board now. Stoops needs to go
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Mitch can go too!
Mitch can go too!
Yep. I’ve been arguing with people for 3 years saying stoops won ten games twice blah blah blah
there is simply no excuse for this. It’s crazy how similar this is to calipari. Stoops gave us great memories, he had us playing better than we ever thought possible. But that’s been over for a while and this is simply unacceptable. FBS teams put up a bigger fight than we did.
if stoops had any respect for himself or this program or this fanbase he would resign tomorrow. There is zero chance this team beats anyone other than Tennessee tech.
there is simply no excuse for this. It’s crazy how similar this is to calipari. Stoops gave us great memories, he had us playing better than we ever thought possible. But that’s been over for a while and this is simply unacceptable. FBS teams put up a bigger fight than we did.
if stoops had any respect for himself or this program or this fanbase he would resign tomorrow. There is zero chance this team beats anyone other than Tennessee tech.
Agree, but Stoops has zero incentive to leave and UK can't afford to make him.
Yeah I know that’s why I included the ‘self respect’ part. But if he wants to ruin his legacy and have the fans completely resent him for years, sure he can go 3-9 and force us to come up with the money to fire him and set our program back even further
it’s not like he’s going to get another good job any time soon. Texas A&M almost made the biggest mistake and saved us but in true Kentucky fashion it was ripped away from us.
We need to lose the part of this fanbase that doesnt demand we have a good team. Stoops is Mr. Smoke and Mirrors.
What does that mean though? So we stop going to the games, stop buying merch. That’s gonna happen now, it doesn’t change the 36 million dollar buyout UK cant afford. No amount of online complaining changes that.
I agree he has to go but if he refuses I don’t know what UK or the fans can do they simply cannot afford the buyout. Maybe we can call ICE on stoops is he legal?
Sorry man, i accidently posted that One of America’s most wanted was honoroed in tbe wrong thread. You ok man? Chill out.
No I’m not ok this is a Uk football forum and we are getting embarrassed again. Thanks for asking.
His equity ran out year. My guess is they negotiated that buyout down a bit and put him on a lifetime payout plan or something. We will be shopping by Xmas
Stoops could go 0-12 for the next 3 years and he wouldn’t get fired. Need to get Mitch out first, all starts with him!
I really think we need to clean house, it just looks like there is no hope for our football program the way it looks at the present time. The offense and defense is sub par. A change is needed.
That second part is what needs to be loud in Lexington! Put pressure on Barney. Does BBN no good to get on Stoops.
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I’m on board too. Thought he deserved a chance this season but it’s clearly run it’s course.
I’m 100% with everyone here. I think it’s time to move on from Stoops. LOVE what the highs he brought us, as they were highs I never thought I’d see at UK, but I think he’s peaked and has gone downhill with no real ability to get back to those highs.
What I want to caution others of is thinking that changing coaches automatically means we get back to the 8-10 win seasons. I‘m ready for a new coach, but I know whatever coach we hire will have the same hurdles to overcome that Stoops has, the two biggest being the lack of donor money to “buy” a competitive team and the lack of in-state talent to recruit from. And I hope everyone realizes that our next coach will have those same challenges to overcome, no matter who they are.
What I want to caution others of is thinking that changing coaches automatically means we get back to the 8-10 win seasons. I‘m ready for a new coach, but I know whatever coach we hire will have the same hurdles to overcome that Stoops has, the two biggest being the lack of donor money to “buy” a competitive team and the lack of in-state talent to recruit from. And I hope everyone realizes that our next coach will have those same challenges to overcome, no matter who they are.
Not buying it. Cignetti at IU has them at a top 15 level. INDIANA.
How you can be a AD for a sec school.... And not have a clause for poor onfield performance... His flirting with the A&M job should have fired him there...
more unimaginable to me that anyone was on the side of Barnhart and Stoops this entire time. Barnhart is a total joke of an AD in a league like this. The SEC? Barnhart? How could anyone with a shred of common sense ever think this is a good man to run an SEC program? This is A PRO LEAGUE. The guy still says “letterman”. lol.
sorry until he’s gone and Kentucky worries about something other than reputation, NCAA rules, and how to be a university landlord (which is all they are now) we’re not budging. I don’t care who you bring in to coach. This is a total joke.
the problem is, was, and will be, Mitch Barnhart. The man has had more money thrown at him than ALL other AD’s combined and this is what we have.
there’s no way to keep him. This is only going to get worse. 37 million is the least of this universities worries moving forward. They stand to lose way, way more than that. The stadium is about to be half empty to nearly empty and you cannot continue that into next season.
Stoops will have to settle eventually and he will (they usually have to) . He’s going to ruin his legacy here, his entire coaching reputation, and be hated every week where he works if he doesn’t.
And IU doesn’t have to play in/recruit against SEC teams. Don’t know why that massive disadvantage seems to evade so many. UK can change conferences and immediately improve their football outlook, but that means taking a big ol’ pay cut that I’m guessing the university doesn’t want to take.
You folks don’t have to like it, but UK football has a huge disadvantage in the NIL era, and that disadvantage is amplified because we are in the SEC. You can ignore it and say “some team in another conference got good fast”, but that’s not a legit comparison to our situation.
SEC isn't far and above everyone else now. Big 10 is actually a little better last year or two. NIL has changed the game. Its pro sports now. Tired of the age old SEC excuse anyway.
He will be forced after this season. If not on his own or in a legal manner a crazy fan will illegally force him to leave lmao
... and there's zero chance that Stoops resigns. Low character people don't do that, and in his case, he will never get another job like to one he has now so, he will milk it for every last cent. He's a pig and his waistline would agree.
I would understand your point more if Indiana were in a G5 conference or even the ACC or Big 12, but they are in the Big Ten…which has more than held its own against the SEC the last couple of years…which is the timeframe we are discussing.
yea I don’t know why so many don’t get how this works. You cannot stay at an SEC program year after year if you’re terrible. The pressure is too great. That contract is that insane in case they need to settle out. There’s no way he’ll stay here being this bad and tell people to stick it, I’m getting my money. It never happens that way and never will.
stoops will absolutely have to step down. 100%. He will settle out because he won’t have a choice.
But Vandy is in the SEC and what’s their record now? I do believe they are 5-0 and they have to recruit and play in the same conference. So niw what’s your excuse?
I'll preface this by saying a Louisville fan, it seems to me that Barnhart got caught up in the sunshine fever with both Calipari & Stoops. Things were going so well with both when he gave them some of the craziest contracts I've ever seen in college sports.
I understood the Calipari contract more- for one he won a title and consistently brought in the best recruiting class every year, the hype was high every single season. And 2 because in college basketball there's a long history and track record of the best coaches in the sport winning consistently for decades until they decide to retire.
But with Stoops, you for sure had some of if not the best teams UK has ever fielded for a couple of seasons. UK was in control of the series with us and consistently winning the recruiting battles in the state (not that the talent in this state pans out that often but it does mean something to fan morale) and recruiting Ohio & Michigan at a high level. He definitely had some of the most elite defenses in all of college football for a few seasons, that's undeniable. But on the flip side of the coin Kentucky was never on the brink of competing for national championship and he has really struggled finding talent at the most important position in the game. And, in my opinion, college football is the most fickle sport. We see coaches dominate for a season and then suck for the next 5, we see coaches dominate for several years straight and then just completely fall apart and get fired. Point being, that was a crazy contract LENGTH to give Stoops, I understand things were going pretty good and you had to pony up and pay him or another school was going to poach him but the length of college football coaches contracts should never be over 5 years imo... not unless your name is Nick Saban because even the Dabo Sweeneys can clearly fall apart. Kirby Smart MIGHT get to the Saban level at some point... that might be the only coach I'd give a 10 year contract to right now.
100% right on every bit of what you said.but we can be way better than this and ik you weren’t saying we can’t but good grief. Like I said earlier I seriously think if Stoops stepped down and the players coached their self the rest of the season they could win a couple games.
He will have to be forced to step down but I don't see it happening. I can't see him ever being offered another head coaching position that pays him anything near what he takes from UK. Why would he step down? He will milk it for everything he can ... laughing all the way to the bank.
because that’s not how this has ever worked and not how it works now. Stoops is about to be absolutely loathed in an entire state. The pressure to step down in this league is insane. It’s not as easy and some thing it is to keep your job while feeling he’s being forced out day in and day out. It will ruin his reputation, his coaching legacy here, and he’ll be a constant laughing stock day in and day out. For a guy with his wealth it’s not worth it to milk an extra 15 million. These guys have major egos, he won’t be able to deal with it.
part of the reason they want these contracts is in case they need to settle out. Stoops already has a number. That’s a guarantee.
everyone says this but the fact is Cal wasn’t going to stay past another year either if it wasn’t turned around. 0 chance if he was beat in another 1st or 2nd round game he would remain.
if we had UL’s schedule year in and year out we would have been competing for championships 100%. You can’t do that in this league. Y’all have ONE ranked team on your schedule lol. It’s basically a mid major league. UL has no chance at anything other than a given opportunity at a big game which they will lose 9-10 times out of 10. No hardware in Louisville was actually earned. So it doesn’t matter, when UL actually plays at a power league level I’ll say it. They don’t. They really never have.
UL’s issue is from this point on they’re a mid major. The game is about to stop handing big bowls to leagues other than the power 2. It’s slowly changing toward that and it will happen as soon as the ACC blows up and that’s coming fast. There are only 2 power leagues now, anyone else is simply a mid major. The rest of the country considers SMU Vs. UL a mid major game. It’s the truth.
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