I am not sure what is worse...

[saltybulldog]

(a) losing the game

(b) Losing the game while OM's new coach and rusty QB bombed memphis

(c) realizing that i have reached a point where I dont care as much as I use to (maybe a good thing)

(d) coming on here tonight to see that LaTech fans are getting to trash talk us (Thanks Croom)

(e) having to admit that Coach34 was/is right.

 

[saltybulldog]

(a) losing the game

(b) Losing the game while OM's new coach and rusty QB bombed memphis

(c) realizing that i have reached a point where I dont care as much as I use to (maybe a good thing)

(d) coming on here tonight to see that LaTech fans are getting to trash talk us (Thanks Croom)

(e) having to admit that Coach34 was/is right.

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

nm

 

[Croomp]

I choose A and D if that is cool.</p>

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

said the SEC would win out, and good ole MSU killed that deal.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

(a) losing the game

(b) Losing the game while OM's new coach and rusty QB bombed memphis

(c) realizing that i have reached a point where I dont care as much as I use to (maybe a good thing)

(d) coming on here tonight to see that LaTech fans are getting to trash talk us (Thanks Croom)

(e) having to admit that Coach34 was/is right.

Rebel-nation is feeling pretty froggy after beating Memphis. I don't blame them for feeling good about their program now, but they're back in "We's gawn win a Nashunal Championship" mode now. Not only that, but they're starting back up with the anti-MState smack: "Racist, sexist, anti-gay, Bulldog bigots go away!" and "Hey hey! Ho Ho! Rebelphobia's gotta go!"...y'know, the normal **** they sling.

 

[RebelBruiser]

(a) losing the game

(b) Losing the game while OM's new coach and rusty QB bombed memphis

(c) realizing that i have reached a point where I dont care as much as I use to (maybe a good thing)

(d) coming on here tonight to see that LaTech fans are getting to trash talk us (Thanks Croom)

(e) having to admit that Coach34 was/is right.

Rebel-nation is feeling pretty froggy after beating Memphis. I don't blame them for feeling good about their program now, but they're back in "We's gawn win a Nashunal Championship" mode now. Not only that, but they're starting back up with the anti-MState smack: "Racist, sexist, anti-gay, Bulldog bigots go away!" and "Hey hey! Ho Ho! Rebelphobia's gotta go!"...y'know, the normal **** they sling.

So you mean like the **** your fanbase was pulling during last year's "we're back" season, while we were going 0-8?

I'll admit that a lot of our fans suck, but that's just par for the course when it comes to college football. We haven't done **** yet in my book, but I'm feeling pretty good about the attitude of our team. We'll find out more about where we stand this coming Saturday.

Point being, it wasn't a whole lot different last year when you beat Auburn and we lost to Vandy. It just depends on which fanbase is on the winning/losing end. Sucky fans don't quit sucking, they just get humbled into not speaking so loudly when things go poorly.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

I call "********" on any "we're back!" smack coming from State fans. The only time I heard that was in 2001, and that was after 4 winning seasons in a row. Rebel-nation is talking SEC championship after whipping Memphis. Beat Wake Forest, or even stay close, and I'll be impressed.</p>

 

[RebelRichman.nafoom]

and a rejuvenated team. Please post a link to some of the posts you were referring to because I haven't seen anything. As for calling ******** on state being "back", refer to the pre season prognostication board, or any of the july recruiting threads.

 

[dawgstudent]

I had cautious optimism. I thought we had turned the corner but there is always the proverbial MState **** that can be taken. And that is exactly what happened Saturday night.

 

[PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA]

The douchebag still predicted MSU to win the game.

Was he right because he spent the entire off-season bitching and moaning about something most people agreed was an issue that needed to be addressed but didn't feel the need to spend every hour of every day of the off-season bitching and moaning about it?

Was he right because he was one of the very few MSU fans who couldn't bring himself to enjoy the fact that after several years of losing MSU actually made it to a bowl and won the game despite the fact most everybody realized how ugly the winning season actually was?

 

[MedReb]

While it's true that many will suddenly think we are a lot better than we really are, I still have the same stance I had at the beginning of the year. We will probably win just enough games to go bowling but have the potential (potential) to win 8. I am sure I will be laughed at like I was the first time, but that's fine. SEC titles etc. are nice dreams that won't happen. I did think we looked good despite not living up to potential this past Saturday. Haven't had a chance to watch the MSU playback yet. Sounds like turnovers were your nemesis whereas they were what won you games last year.

 

[WillemWallace]

there were all sorts of "we've turned the corner" posts here all during last season and this off-season.

So your calling ******** is, in fact, ********.

And before anyone starts about "what was irrational about it??!?!? Stupid webel" crap... we tried to tell you.

And I have yet to see anybody on NAFOOM post that we're back. Actually, all I've seen is stating that our defense played pretty poorly and our offense played well, and if the defense doesn't play better then we are headed for 5 or 6 wins. I haven't seen anybody predict 9 wins after the Memphis game.

 

[Coach34]

1. Coach said Croom is an idiot that will never have a competent college offense
2. Coach said our OL would not be as good as last years
3. Coach said we would have a tough game with La Tech
4. Coach predicted us to go 5-7 and 2-6 in the SEC
5. Coach said Bammer would beat Clemson
6. Coach said Kentucky would be pretty good defensively
7. Coach said Dixon would not be all-SEC this season

and that is just a few things...if you want more, let me know

 

[1adam Ant]

going to win the SEC, much less the National championship. We are happy with the win, but we have issues that must be addressed if we are to beat Wake.
Our defense is still questionable and we need our two studs on the defensive line back. Our corners are too short. Linebackers didnt have a great game.
yes , the offense was really fun to watch, but Snead missed several times on deep balls that would have let us put 10-14 more points up. Now that other coaches have seen what we do we are going to get schemed better. This week will tell a lot about our team.

 

[PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA]

Very few people actually disagreed with most of what you were saying. However, you were the only one who insisted on saying it in every thread during the offseason. You were the only one who didn't actually enjoy seeing MSU win a bowl game or even play in one for that matter. You spent the entire offseason bitching and moaning about things that you tried to kill any pleasure that anybody else got out of seeing MSU actually have a winning record for the first time in several years.

Again, very few people even disagreed with what you said. Very few.

 

[dawgstudent]

you put Ole Miss in the exact same situation as State, would you not be excited this summer for the upcoming season? And by exact same, I mean -

• coming off an 8-5 season with six years of **** that preluded it,
• about 75% of starters returning,
• a favorable schedule considering your SEC East opponents
• a freshman QB who looked decent last year
• a pretty good RB

If that is not reason to be excited, I don't know what is. I am of the belief that a huge part of the battle is thinking you can win and I thought after last season, we were past losing to a team like La Tech.

 

[I am Al Czervik]

But the issue many have is the dogged (pun inserted) blindness to:

the loss of your best on the field coach
the loss of NFL caliber talent on defense
the loss of your best offensive lineman and a badass blocking tight end
the unlikelihood that you could count on an inordinate amount of defensive and special teams scores

Also, it seemed that many State fans forgot that other teams improve talent wise in the offseason and some, like Ole Miss this year, improve in the coaching department.

 

[dawgstudent]

Also, it seemed that many State fans forgot that other teams improve talent wise in the offseason

And why could this not happen to State? And I know the comeback is setup for Croom is our coach but you have to think some improvement would take place.

 

[I am Al Czervik]

other schools talent would improve, also. I had ya'll pegged for 6 wins this year before yesterday. Now you will be hard pressed in my opinion to do that this year. And for disclosure, I picked us for 5-7 including beating Memphis.

 

[dawgstudent]

of why State could not improve in that same span? On paper, we have more talent than last year.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

There were plenty of us on here that said we needed this year to see if we indeed had turned a corner but thanks for forgetting that. I have to agree with dawgstudent, if Ole Miss had done what we did last year, most would be giddy with excitement.

 

[WillemWallace]

If you dominated or beat those teams with a balanced team, then you have reason to be excited.

But, as has been discussed, rarely has as many breaks as MSU got last year happened to any Mississippi school, for as long as I can remember. In fact, even the Ole Miss 2003 season didn't see as many breaks. The only real break that Ole Miss got was the Auburn game, with Obumanu.

State won 3 games by virtue of a defensive touchdown. Without those defensive touchdowns, its a 4 win season, and everybody is pissed at Croom.

That was Cox's (AU) worst game of his career. Very rarely does a QB throw an interception from the 2 or 3 that goes for a TD right before the half that ends up being the winning TD. Only an idiot coach would go for it on 4th and 1 against a stout run defense on his own 45 when up by 2 TD, at the opponent's stadium. Carroll was OK, but he wasn't much to be as giddy over as many here were.

From a non-koolaid point of view, last season was a bit of a surprise and a season of break after break after break.

Not only that, but like has been said, the DC left, the best D player left, the top OL was kicked off, and the top WR is gone. Then, you realize that the Spring Game was 0-0 at the end of regulation. Thats just pitiful.

Thats kinda like the sheep at the Spirit stating after 2003 that we would be better in 2004. Thats just idiotic. Ole Miss lost its greatest player ever, the starting RB, best WR, and several defensive stars.

So, to answer you shortly, No, I wouldn't have. Hell, I'm not convinced that Ole Miss will win more than 5 or 6 games even after the performance on offense in the first game. There are many, many holes on defense.</p>

 

[dawgstudent]

what you are saying State got lucky and played their opponents in their worst games of the year.

And I agree, we might were premature in saying we have turned the corner but with the previous 6 seasons, any type of success was going to be magnified.

 

[OMlawdog]

Last year is just silly.

AU turned it over I think 5 times, and they overhauled their offensive line the following week.

AL, Im pretty sure the pick six has been covered.

Ole Miss, I think that game has been discussed as well.

All three of those games were games that MSU won, that could have easily went either way, and MSU won them all. Its not like MSU was outgaining teams and stopping teams with ease, MSU won games with big plays, and it is reasonable to think that minus those big plays, MSU would be a 5 win team.

I still think MSU has a good chance to beat AU in two weeks, but MSU need some breaks to make it happen.</p>

 

[dawgstudent]

saying we didn't catch breaks. But for it to happen in 3 games is more than coincidence. My main point is that if Ole Miss was in the exact same situation, I don't see how they would not have the same level of excitement that State fans had.

 

[OMlawdog]

But I think the same posters that knew that Ole Miss was headed for disaster after Eli left, would have acknowledged that the previous season was unique, assuming we were in the same position.

If Ole Miss wins 8 games this year as a result of special teams TD and defensive TD while getting outgained most games, I wouldn't expect a 8-9 win season in 2009. That is just me, though Im somewhat reasonable.

Each year should be viewed on its own. After MSU lost Michael Brown, Anthony Johnson, along with Titus Brown, those were easily 3 of the top 5 players on MSU's team last year. When you lose that much talent, you can't count on last year success to predict this year's success.

 

[dawgstudent]

the loss Eli Manning to what we lost last year with what was returning is absolutely laughable. One would think that with a freshman QB and a sophomore RB, you would improve the next year tremendously on offense. Losing Brown was a big loss, I don't deny that.

 

[OMlawdog]

I think 8 starters returned on offense, and almost 8 on defense.

You wouldn't think that a team that returned close to 17 starters from a 10 win team would only win 3 games, but it can happen.

As for Carroll as a freshman and his improvement, this is the same QB that was benched through parts of the last two games of last year. Its not like he was great the last two game of the season and objective fans would realize he may not be the answer at QB, though I think he is way better than Lee.

I understand excitement, but some MSU fans did not want to objectively look at last season and think that they were very opportunistic, and possibly lucky.

At what position is MSU better this year? S, RB, and maybe LB. After seeing the game I would say WR, but beyond that, I think MSU has downgraded at every other position. I think some Croom haters are going too far with this loss, and I think MSU gives AU a hell of a game in two weeks.</p>

 

[RebelBruiser]

I call "********" on any "we're back!" smack coming from State fans. The only time I heard that was in 2001, and that was after 4 winning seasons in a row. Rebel-nation is talking SEC championship after whipping Memphis. Beat Wake Forest, or even stay close, and I'll be impressed.</p>

The only people predicting anything close to an SEC championship for us are the extreme Spirit sheep. Your extreme GP sheep have spent all summer talking about how you turned the corner, and I guarantee you had quite a few that picked you to have a shot to compete for an SEC title this year.

Most of us see that we still have work to do defensively and that we still have a lot to prove. For me, I've been predicting 6 or 7 wins for us all off-season. Our opener gave me enough confidence to start leaning more toward 7 wins, but for most of us, our overall thoughts of the team haven't changed that much, because we didn't do a whole lot more than most people expected to begin with.