...begging him to not give Raffo the job. Surely Byrne is smart enough to not completely divide the fanbase with his first hire
I hope people are flooding Byrne's mail box....
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I know there are folks that want Raffo but I just cant see it being that big of a portion of the fanbase wanting him. I would guess there are more fans that would be be pissed at a Raffo hire than the hiring of someone else
Gregory Byrne (is that good enough for you, SR?) has his sites set much higher than The Jewel, Mississippi, as the pinnacle of his Athletics Director career. Good ol MState is a stepping stone for Mr. Byrne, boys. The sumbitch needs to get this hire right. This hire better indicate that Byrne has the right instincts and that he can make it happen, ala Foley. If Byrne is who and what I think he is, then this hire will clearly establish that he's more concerned with what college presidents and other ADs around the country think of this hire than what Mickey Holliman or Hal Parker think of this hire. It just so happens that not screwing this up on Raffo is as good for MState as it is for Byrne's career.
...And anyway. Should he hire Raffo and it goes south in a couple of years do you think anybody outside MSU will hold him responsible given the circumstances?
(ok.. in retrospect "won't even be a blip" might have been a bit strong.. but still. It won't define him in the eyes of his next employer.)
(ok.. in retrospect "won't even be a blip" might have been a bit strong.. but still. It won't define him in the eyes of his next employer.)
Seriously?
Weren't you giving him credit for his connections at OSU and UK? I guess those circumstances didn't matter.
He's a [17]n interim AD who had to have a special pronouncement from the [17]n interim president that he was "authorized" to conduct this search. He's got 1/2 the State of Alabama on hold while he picks over the low hanging fruit of the college coaching world. It's his first [17]n hire, douchenozzle. And in the college baseball world, it's a huge [17]n hire.
He's motivated to get it right. And Raffo would be a huge, steaming shitpile right in the middle of his resume.
Weren't you giving him credit for his connections at OSU and UK? I guess those circumstances didn't matter.
He's a [17]n interim AD who had to have a special pronouncement from the [17]n interim president that he was "authorized" to conduct this search. He's got 1/2 the State of Alabama on hold while he picks over the low hanging fruit of the college coaching world. It's his first [17]n hire, douchenozzle. And in the college baseball world, it's a huge [17]n hire.
He's motivated to get it right. And Raffo would be a huge, steaming shitpile right in the middle of his resume.
Some major renovations will soon take place on campus
Plus Byrne is well connected thanks to his Dad
Have to agree this hire will mean very little long term on his resume
MSU baseball is so good, it can win 35 games on an annual basis and make postseason play regardless of coach - to the MSU fan base that is not good enough; to people who will evaluate Byrne on a national level, that is a good program
Plus Byrne is well connected thanks to his Dad
Have to agree this hire will mean very little long term on his resume
MSU baseball is so good, it can win 35 games on an annual basis and make postseason play regardless of coach - to the MSU fan base that is not good enough; to people who will evaluate Byrne on a national level, that is a good program
I have no idea what you're talking about. That makes you the douchenozzle.
But obviously GB takes the hire seriously. I never said, nor implied that he doesn't. What I said was that nobody will hold hiring Raffo against him. The only way this will be a black mark on GB's resume is if he DOESN'T hire Raffo and whoever the guy is doesn't work out.
Paper Dog have you been watching over the past few years? It has been a steady decline in talent and effort and as a result, fan support.
I haven't missed a regional in years (of couse I didn't have an option this year). Our run at FSU last year was a stroke of luck and the stars lined up and we got to come home and play Clemson. A year early we lost to Elon in the opening round of a regional for Christ's sake. ELON - We should never lose to Elon and the fact Middle Tennessee State hung 20 on us is embarssing.
We better get this hire right or we'll be lucky to be competitive against mid majors much less waltz effortlessly to 35 wins a year.
I haven't missed a regional in years (of couse I didn't have an option this year). Our run at FSU last year was a stroke of luck and the stars lined up and we got to come home and play Clemson. A year early we lost to Elon in the opening round of a regional for Christ's sake. ELON - We should never lose to Elon and the fact Middle Tennessee State hung 20 on us is embarssing.
We better get this hire right or we'll be lucky to be competitive against mid majors much less waltz effortlessly to 35 wins a year.
MSU has won 34 or more games every year since 1982, except for this year
Hell, if Weatherford is healthy all year, this absolutely horrible baseball team still wins 30 games
Yes, 32 to 35 wins can be garnered by just about anybody showing up and coaching
Hell, if Weatherford is healthy all year, this absolutely horrible baseball team still wins 30 games
Yes, 32 to 35 wins can be garnered by just about anybody showing up and coaching
his hiring. surely, it can't be beyond "he's a great guy" and "he's loyal, so give him a chance."
the one glimmer of light at the end of this tunnel is how cohen hasn't said "no thanks" like casey immediately did. that can mean two things. he's interested or he's using it as leverage for more money at UK. i don't see him purposely using us, and if he were so deeply concerned about hurting polk's or raffo's feelings, he would have turned us down by now.
****. it's gonna be raffo.
the one glimmer of light at the end of this tunnel is how cohen hasn't said "no thanks" like casey immediately did. that can mean two things. he's interested or he's using it as leverage for more money at UK. i don't see him purposely using us, and if he were so deeply concerned about hurting polk's or raffo's feelings, he would have turned us down by now.
****. it's gonna be raffo.
One problem with that theory. MSU has had more talent every year since 1975 than we had this year, in almost every year a LOT more talent. And we'll have even less talent next year thanks to the fantastic job Polk and Raffo did with recruiting this year.Paper Dog said:
My point is simply that there has been a slow decline in the product that we have put on the field in the past few years and for any MSU fan that should be unacceptable! You make this point so well when point out that Weatherford's poor health cost us games. We should never be in a situation where one player has that much impact on the team. We have to rethink the way we approach the game. Unfortunately we've been in a situation where those in charge has been unwilling to adapt. We have a chance to change this, but if we fail to make a hire we will continue to struggle.
anyone can come in and win 35 games quote. If we don't recruit, obvisously we're going to be getting crappy players. I don't think Weatherford could have salvaged this season. He was only out a few weeks, and I doubt we would have gone on a 12-13 game winning streak early in the season with him healthy.
If it's Raffo, he will have a learning curve to some degree, and that will cost us a few games, and then if McNickle stays, our pitching probably will only get better because our numbers were so bad. We still will probably be crappy and injury riddled as long as he is here. And who will replace Raffo as the hitting coach? We may or may not get someone worth a darn, and knowing MSU, we will name Wade Hedges the hitting coach. Even worse, the attitude won't change and then you take away Weatherford, then yes, I could see the next few years being pretty bad with Raffo. And as hard as it is to imagine, possibly even worse.</p>
If it's Raffo, he will have a learning curve to some degree, and that will cost us a few games, and then if McNickle stays, our pitching probably will only get better because our numbers were so bad. We still will probably be crappy and injury riddled as long as he is here. And who will replace Raffo as the hitting coach? We may or may not get someone worth a darn, and knowing MSU, we will name Wade Hedges the hitting coach. Even worse, the attitude won't change and then you take away Weatherford, then yes, I could see the next few years being pretty bad with Raffo. And as hard as it is to imagine, possibly even worse.</p>
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