I hope y'all are ready

[HI Cock1]

For Clemson to roll to another NC. They're a good team and they've come into form in the 2nd half of the season.

They get in because of stupidity in college football playoff selections.

And Dabo will be the darling once again. He'll cry, he'll talk about divine intervention, he'll pat himself on the back for holding the line against transfers.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Clemson will not come close to sniffing a title this year. I don't think they will make it past the first round if they get in. We played our C game and still beat them.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

Clemson will not come close to sniffing a title this year. I don't think they will make it past the first round if they get in. We played our C game and still beat them.

If they can't beat a team ''not good enough for the CFP'' at home, then their chances appear slim.

 

[Fried Chicken]

For Clemson to roll to another NC. They're a good team and they've come into form in the 2nd half of the season.

They get in because of stupidity in college football playoff selections.

And Dabo will be the darling once again. He'll cry, he'll talk about divine intervention, he'll pat himself on the back for holding the line against transfers.

What form? They don’t score a lot of points on any team with a pulse. They got hammered by Louisville at home. Needed a miracle to beat Pitt. Lost to us at home. They wouldn’t even be considered if it wasn’t an automatic bid.

Clemson just isn’t that great. Could they make it to the semis? Sure, especially if they get a favorable draw. If Clemson makes it to the National Title game, it’s not because their form. They aren’t a great team. They have no quality wins. It’ll be all about their favorable draw.

I’m not dumb enough to say they won’t get close. They are the luckiest team that has even seen this earth. They’ll get breaks, no doubt. But they certainly haven’t been a 2nd half team that has found their form.

 

[Fried Chicken]

Clemson will not come close to sniffing a title this year. I don't think they will make it past the first round if they get in. We played our C game and still beat them.

Would Clemson not get a bye for winning the ACC Championship? I know this was stated at some point…but was it wrong? Or do they have to be ranked in Top 12 & win the conference to get the Bye?

 

[Mr. Belvedere]

What?? lol.. good lord.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Would Clemson not get a bye for winning the ACC Championship? I know this was stated at some point…but was it wrong? Or do they have to be ranked in Top 12 & win the conference to get the Bye?

Depends. IF Clemson won, they get in with the auto bid. The four highest rated conference champs get the byes. However, both Arizona State and Iowa State are ranked just ahead of Clemson and they play for the Big 12 title

Would they move a 3-loss Clemson ahead of a 2-loss ASU or ISU Big 12 champ who was ranked ahead of Clemson prior to the conference championship games?

It would be insane to think Clemson could go from ranked 17th to the #4 seed, but someone is going to make a big jump if SMU loses, either ASU, ISU or Clemson who are ranked 15, 16 and 17.

If Clemson wins a close game, I could see the 10-12 spots being: ASU/ISU, Clemson, SMU. ASU/ISU would get the #4 seed. Bama would get nudged out by SMU as the committee has signaled they aren't going to penalize anyone and bounce them from the CFP for playing in a conference title game.

Now, imagine a scenario where #17 Clemson knocks of #8 SMU and #20 UNLV knocks of #10 Boise State. BSU presumably drops out and UNLV takes their spot....BUT the committee has indicated they are not inclined to penalized teams for conference championship games. There are really only 4 spots up for grabs, currently held by ASU (projected), Bama (projected), BSU and SMU. OSU, UT, PSU, ND, UGA, IU, OU and Texas are locked in. It would be chaos if both UNLV and Clemson win.


The system is obviously VERY flawed and I'm not sure why nobody really noticed it.

 

[3USC1801]

“Roll to another NC”??? ​

“Come into form in the 2nd half of the season”???

Clemson just got rolled by THE Gamecocks!! At their home!! They haven’t beaten a team yet that has a pulse. But, of course, they are “rolling” in the EZZ conference of midgets. It’s the Pee Wee league of college football.

 

[HI Cock1]

Haha! Gotcha!

Just giving a worst case scenario. And some reverse psychology.

 

[Slim Chickens Gamecock]

Cocky arse CLubby is not comfortable when pressured. He cannot carry them, but we should all tell him good job. By the way if you look at the tape on both of his TD runs or LB's inexplicably crashed into an O Lineman completely wiping themselves out of any scouting of a Clubby run.

 

[Fried Chicken]

Depends. IF Clemson won, they get in with the auto bid. The four highest rated conference champs get the byes. However, both Arizona State and Iowa State are ranked just ahead of Clemson and they play for the Big 12 title

Would they move a 3-loss Clemson ahead of a 2-loss ASU or ISU Big 12 champ who was ranked ahead of Clemson prior to the conference championship games?

It would be insane to think Clemson could go from ranked 17th to the #4 seed, but someone is going to make a big jump if SMU loses, either ASU, ISU or Clemson who are ranked 15, 16 and 17.

If Clemson wins a close game, I could see the 10-12 spots being: ASU/ISU, Clemson, SMU. ASU/ISU would get the #4 seed. Bama would get nudged out by SMU as the committee has signaled they aren't going to penalize anyone and bounce them from the CFP for playing in a conference title game.

Now, imagine a scenario where #17 Clemson knocks of #8 SMU and #20 UNLV knocks of #10 Boise State. BSU presumably drops out and UNLV takes their spot....BUT the committee has indicated they are not inclined to penalized teams for conference championship games. There are really only 4 spots up for grabs, currently held by ASU (projected), Bama (projected), BSU and SMU. OSU, UT, PSU, ND, UGA, IU, OU and Texas are locked in. It would be chaos if both UNLV and Clemson win.


The system is obviously VERY flawed and I'm not sure why nobody really noticed it.

Thanks for the explanation. If it benefits Clemson, expect it to happen.

 

[Anon1704296804]

“Roll to another NC”??? ​

“Come into form in the 2nd half of the season”???

Clemson just got rolled by THE Gamecocks!! At their home!! They haven’t beaten a team yet that has a pulse. But, of course, they are “rolling” in the EZZ conference of midgets. It’s the Pee Wee league of college football.

I wouldn't say they got rolled. It was a pretty even game IMO. Sellers was the difference 100% but he wasn't a reckoning force until the 4th quarter. He was the leading rusher with 166 yards, with 111yds coming in the 4th quarter. Without him, I don't think SC wins.

 

[BftCocks09]

For Clemson to roll to another NC. They're a good team and they've come into form in the 2nd half of the season.

They get in because of stupidity in college football playoff selections.

And Dabo will be the darling once again. He'll cry, he'll talk about divine intervention, he'll pat himself on the back for holding the line against transfers.

Are you high?

 

[Bubba Fett]

Naw... They're a good team, but not top ten. If they get in they might pull off a first round win depending on who they get, but they'll get whipped by the second round.

 

[Yard_Pimps]

Naw... They're a good team, but not top ten. If they get in they might pull off a first round win depending on who they get, but they'll get whipped by the second round.

If they get in they likely will not play the first round

 

[Bubba Fett]

If they get in they likely will not play the first round

Yes they will based on their ranking they won't be seeded as high as SMU.

 

[Anon1667100206]

What form? They don’t score a lot of points on any team with a pulse. They got hammered by Louisville at home. Needed a miracle to beat Pitt. Lost to us at home. They wouldn’t even be considered if it wasn’t an automatic bid.

Clemson just isn’t that great. Could they make it to the semis? Sure, especially if they get a favorable draw. If Clemson makes it to the National Title game, it’s not because their form. They aren’t a great team. They have no quality wins. It’ll be all about their favorable draw.

I’m not dumb enough to say they won’t get close. They are the luckiest team that has even seen this earth. They’ll get breaks, no doubt. But they certainly haven’t been a 2nd half team that has found their form.

Some of y'all keep saying how Clemson isn't that great and at the same time wanted the CFP committee to give the Gamecocks extra credit for beating them. Why??? Make it make sense

 

[Bubba Fett]

Some of y'all keep saying how Clemson isn't that great and at the same time wanted the CFP committee to give the Gamecocks extra credit for beating them. Why??? Make it make sense

Simple, they're a good team and a ranked team, just not a top 12.team.

 

[Fried Chicken]

Some of y'all keep saying how Clemson isn't that great and at the same time wanted the CFP committee to give the Gamecocks extra credit for beating them. Why??? Make it make sense

Because they were ranked. Usually teams that beat a ranked team gets rewarded. Bama beat an unranked Auburn team and moved up 2 spots. We beat a ranked Clemson team on the road and only moved up 1 spot. Nobody claiming Clemson is great, but they are better than Auburn and the win was certainly better than Auburn. The issue is the inconsistency. Nobody asking for EXTRA credit as you said. Just consistent credit.

This Clemson team is nowhere near as good as their National Championship teams. I can’t imagine many Clemson fans would disagree with that statement. Go look at the original post I responded to. OP stated they are going to make it to the National Title Game. He said they were a good team the 2nd half of the season as they gained form. What I see the 2nd half of the season is 2 home losses (how many of those have they had the past 10 years) and a game they almost lost at Pitt. No quality wins. Based on that, would you agree they found their form the 2nd half of the season?

 

[cockyinflorida]

For Clemson to roll to another NC. They're a good team and they've come into form in the 2nd half of the season.

They get in because of stupidity in college football playoff selections.

And Dabo will be the darling once again. He'll cry, he'll talk about divine intervention, he'll pat himself on the back for holding the line against transfers.

Put the tide pods down. Clemson will get boat raced by SMU on Saturday.

 

[Yard_Pimps]

Because they were ranked. Usually teams that beat a ranked team gets rewarded. Bama beat an unranked Auburn team and moved up 2 spots. We beat a ranked Clemson team on the road and only moved up 1 spot. Nobody claiming Clemson is great, but they are better than Auburn and the win was certainly better than Auburn. The issue is the inconsistency. Nobody asking for EXTRA credit as you said. Just consistent credit.

This Clemson team is nowhere near as good as their National Championship teams. I can’t imagine many Clemson fans would disagree with that statement. Go look at the original post I responded to. OP stated they are going to make it to the National Title Game. He said they were a good team the 2nd half of the season as they gained form. What I see the 2nd half of the season is 2 home losses (how many of those have they had the past 10 years) and a game they almost lost at Pitt. No quality wins. Based on that, would you agree they found their form the 2nd half of the season?

No one is and it is likely teams never will be. Talent is distributed differently now due to NIL and the Transfer portal. No one has depth like that anymore. I’m not just saying it about them that goes for those lsu and Alabama teams to. Teams can’t retain that much talent anymore.

 

[Forkcock]

Just me but I make a habit of never posting anything positive about Clemson.

 

[Fried Chicken]

No one is and it is likely teams never will be. Talent is distributed differently now due to NIL and the Transfer portal. No one has depth like that anymore. I’m not just saying it about them that goes for those lsu and Alabama teams to. Teams can’t retain that much talent anymore.

Fair enough. But did Clemson find their form in the 2nd half of the season going 4-2, both losses at home with no ranked wins? That’s what I responded to.

 

[Yard_Pimps]

Fair enough. But did Clemson find their form in the 2nd half of the season going 4-2, both losses at home with no ranked wins? That’s what I responded to.

They found enough to make it into their conference championship and I am a firm avid believer that conference champions should be in period. I would make an argument it should just be them. Shouldn’t be able to win the national championship if you don’t win your conference. I have always had to at opinion and always will.

 

[FootballLVR]

Depends. IF Clemson won, they get in with the auto bid. The four highest rated conference champs get the byes. However, both Arizona State and Iowa State are ranked just ahead of Clemson and they play for the Big 12 title

Would they move a 3-loss Clemson ahead of a 2-loss ASU or ISU Big 12 champ who was ranked ahead of Clemson prior to the conference championship games?

It would be insane to think Clemson could go from ranked 17th to the #4 seed, but someone is going to make a big jump if SMU loses, either ASU, ISU or Clemson who are ranked 15, 16 and 17.

If Clemson wins a close game, I could see the 10-12 spots being: ASU/ISU, Clemson, SMU. ASU/ISU would get the #4 seed. Bama would get nudged out by SMU as the committee has signaled they aren't going to penalize anyone and bounce them from the CFP for playing in a conference title game.

Now, imagine a scenario where #17 Clemson knocks of #8 SMU and #20 UNLV knocks of #10 Boise State. BSU presumably drops out and UNLV takes their spot....BUT the committee has indicated they are not inclined to penalized teams for conference championship games. There are really only 4 spots up for grabs, currently held by ASU (projected), Bama (projected), BSU and SMU. OSU, UT, PSU, ND, UGA, IU, OU and Texas are locked in. It would be chaos if both UNLV and Clemson win.


The system is obviously VERY flawed and I'm not sure why nobody really noticed it.

Nobody "noticed" it because everyone assumed that SEC would easily get in 4 teams, 4 for B1G, and 4 for the rest of the world.

 

[FootballLVR]

Some of y'all keep saying how Clemson isn't that great and at the same time wanted the CFP committee to give the Gamecocks extra credit for beating them. Why??? Make it make sense

This is my question. We wanna say Clemson sucks but we want to use that win to say we beat a good team. Can't have it both ways folks.

 

[Bubba Fett]

SMU's resume is vapor. I am not sure they beat Clemson. I certainly hope so, but I tell you those Pickens County Clowns are the luckiest sum'beeches. They get more breaks than a bull in a china shop.

 

[Fried Chicken]

They found enough to make it into their conference championship and I am a firm avid believer that conference champions should be in period. I would make an argument it should just be them. Shouldn’t be able to win the national championship if you don’t win your conference. I have always had to at opinion and always will.

You’re missing the point. The OP is saying they’ll win the National title because they found their form. They didn’t find any form. They lucked out Miami lost 2 of 3 and got in the ACCCG. And by the way, his statement wasn’t that they found enough form to win the ACC. Which is what you’re saying they did find “enough of”. Not the same. Not what I addressed at all. That said, that statement is ridiculous as well. They made the ACC Title game but It had nothing to do with “finding form”. They beat nobody. You could say, they won the games they had to. Fine. But finding form? Uh, no…

Nobody is saying Clemson sucks. But it’s not like Clemson all of a sudden ramped it up the 2nd half of the season. The facts are their record was worse the 2nd half than the 1st half. That’s a fact…not opinion. This has nothing to do with them having a chance to win. They obviously do. But saying they found their form is silly. If Miami beat Syracuse would the OP be saying Clemson found their form? No.

 

[Fried Chicken]

This is my question. We wanna say Clemson sucks but we want to use that win to say we beat a good team. Can't have it both ways folks.

There are plenty of responses that answer this question in the thread if you’d read them.

 

[Fried Chicken]

SMU's resume is vapor. I am not sure they beat Clemson. I certainly hope so, but I tell you those Pickens County Clowns are the luckiest sum'beeches. They get more breaks than a bull in a china shop.

Fully expect Clemson to beat SMU and to do it easily. This will be a 3 score game.

 

[Piscis]

Fully expect Clemson to beat SMU and to do it easily. This will be a 3 score game.

Same here. SMU is an FCS+1 team, look at their schedule this season. 18th ranked (at the time) BYU was their only win over a ranked team all season. Clemson will roll over SMU.

 

[Yard_Pimps]

You’re missing the point. The OP is saying they’ll win the National title because they found their form. They didn’t find any form. They lucked out Miami lost 2 of 3 and got in the ACCCG. And by the way, his statement wasn’t that they found enough form to win the ACC. Which is what you’re saying they did find “enough of”. Not the same. Not what I addressed at all. That said, that statement is ridiculous as well. They made the ACC Title game but It had nothing to do with “finding form”. They beat nobody. You could say, they won the games they had to. Fine. But finding form? Uh, no…

Nobody is saying Clemson sucks. But it’s not like Clemson all of a sudden ramped it up the 2nd half of the season. The facts are their record was worse the 2nd half than the 1st half. That’s a fact…not opinion. This has nothing to do with them having a chance to win. They obviously do. But saying they found their form is silly. If Miami beat Syracuse would the OP be saying Clemson found their form? No.

Other teams losing to get into a championship is the name of the game unless you go undefeated in conference play. You make it sound like that’s a bad thing or a knock against them, it’s not. Clemson is who they are a loser to sc and the second best team in the Acc. If they win Saturday they will be the best team in the Acc. I have stated it today and will again. If they win the Acc they should be in. Let’s keep in mind that a team with 2 loses that could lose Saturday will be in regardless. Georgia will get in as a 3 loss team. The second best team in the sec that got all they could handle from an average Acc team. Those are facts.

 

[Fried Chicken]

Other teams losing to get into a championship is the name of the game unless you go undefeated in conference play. You make it sound like that’s a bad thing or a knock against them, it’s not. Clemson is who they are a loser to sc and the second best team in the Acc. If they win Saturday they will be the best team in the Acc. I have stated it today and will again. If they win the Acc they should be in. Let’s keep in mind that a team with 2 loses that could lose Saturday will be in regardless. Georgia will get in as a 3 loss team. The second best team in the sec that got all they could handle from an average Acc team. Those are facts.

No, you’re missing the point!! AGAIN. The entire issue is the OP saying they FOUND THEIR FORM in the 2nd half of the season and that they’ll win the National Title. They went 4-2. They didn’t find their form. This is the issue I responded to from the very beginning. Don’t read anymore of the post before you realize this or you will miss it again.

How many times do I have to make that point in my posts? It has nothing to do whether they are worthy to get in? It only has to do with the fact they did not find their form. Going 4-2 over the second half of the season without a quality win isn’t finding their form. Focus on the purpose of my first response way back in the thread. Don’t cherry pick one comment and take out of context. I said this has nothing to do with Clemson getting in the ACCCG. It doesn’t. Yet you reply saying that’s the name of the game. Of course it is. I never said anything otherwise. It’s clear my point was that if Miami didn’t lose 2 of 3, Clemson isn’t in ACCCG…AND THE OP DOESN’T CLAIM CLEMSON FOUND THEIR FORM. Doesn’t mean Clemson isn’t any good. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be in the playoff. Just simply that the OP is overreacting in saying they will win a National Title because they found their form. That’s garbage…

This board can be exhausting when people can follow context.