I laugh at the college football playoffs.

[BobPSU92]

You should too. Important games are not played on December 31st on espn. And by the time they play the championship game, no one will care. The holidays will be over. Folks will be back to work. No one will care.

On the other hand, we are in the “Grandaddy of them all”, on January 2nd. Remember, bowl game, January 2nd?

Screw this playoff horsea$$. Insignificant.

 

[91Joe95]

You and Franklin both.

 

[ApexLion]

You should too. Important games are not played on December 31st on espn. And by the time they play the championship game, no one will care. The holidays will be over. Folks will be back to work. No one will care.

On the other hand, we are in the “Grandaddy of them all”, on January 2nd. Remember, bowl game, January 2nd?

Screw this playoff horsea$$. Insignificant.

Agreed but once we go to 12 teams PSU fans will be sucked in. The PSU $$$ is probably a factor in their marketing plan.

 

[LB99]

You should too. Important games are not played on December 31st on espn. And by the time they play the championship game, no one will care. The holidays will be over. Folks will be back to work. No one will care.

On the other hand, we are in the “Grandaddy of them all”, on January 2nd. Remember, bowl game, January 2nd?

Screw this playoff horsea$$. Insignificant.

Everything is based around TV schedules and money. Follow the money trail. That Michigan-TCU game was one of the most entertaining games I have watched in awhile. Much more so than a blowout. If the playoffs are so insignificant they why are we all so infatuated with PSU getting in?

 

[Blair10]

Sounds like sour grapes that PSU is not in the CFP.

Tonight’s first game was fantastic and very exciting not to mention “relevant” because the outcome actually meant something.

 

[ApexLion]

Group of 12 will make a difference for us. We are…within top 10.

 

[LB99]

Group of 12 will make a difference for us. We are…within top 10.

Agree. And more teams like TCU will get a chance to prove they deserve a spot. I think it will be so much more entertaining at 12 than 4. It’s like the NFL playoffs. All you need to do is get in. Then everybody has something to prove.

 

[EPC FAN]

You and Franklin both.

Booger had a great game today, eh?

 

[johnmpsu]

You should too. Important games are not played on December 31st on espn. And by the time they play the championship game, no one will care. The holidays will be over. Folks will be back to work. No one will care.

On the other hand, we are in the “Grandaddy of them all”, on January 2nd. Remember, bowl game, January 2nd?

Screw this playoff horsea$$. Insignificant.

It's not a playoff. It's an invitational. Until they have clear rules for getting in, preferably WINNING your conference, it will never be a playoff.

 

[Charlie1978]

Agreed but once we go to 12 teams PSU fans will be sucked in. The PSU $$$ is probably a factor in their marketing plan.

Strong Agree. Getting us, USC and ND back in the mix will elevate the value of the playoffs and the NCAA knows it. it will dilute/spread out the 5* recruiting so that power at the top is not so concentrated. I was surprised the dumbshits figured it out. Thank God for greed.

 

[GrimReaper]

Strong Agree. Getting us, USC and ND back in the mix will elevate the value of the playoffs and the NCAA knows it. it will dilute/spread out the 5* recruiting so that power at the top is not so concentrated. I was surprised the dumbshits figured it out. Thank God for greed.

NCAA has nothing to do with the playoffs or its expansion.

 

[BobPSU92]

It's not a playoff. It's an invitational. Until they have clear rules for getting in, preferably WINNING your conference, it will never be a playoff.

I thought winning your conference guarantees a spot in the playoff.

 

[LB99]

Strong Agree. Getting us, USC and ND back in the mix will elevate the value of the playoffs and the NCAA knows it. it will dilute/spread out the 5* recruiting so that power at the top is not so concentrated. I was surprised the dumbshits figured it out. Thank God for greed.

ND has been in the mix (controversially) and they have fallen on their faces and gotten embarrassed. Don’t use those primadonnas as a measuring stick.

 

[leinbacker]

Group of 12 will make a difference for us. We are…within top 10.

Not when they drop us from 8 to 13, not because they dropped us, rather, the teams below us moved up.

 

[psuno1]

Those were to great games yesterday, making it even better OSU and UM going down.

 

[Moogy]

It's not a playoff. It's an invitational. Until they have clear rules for getting in, preferably WINNING your conference, it will never be a playoff.

Semantical nonsense. Who cares if it's an "invitational" or a "playoff"? They do have "clear rules" for getting in .. if you're selected, you're in. Pretty clear.

 

[Moogy]

You should too. Important games are not played on December 31st on espn. And by the time they play the championship game, no one will care. The holidays will be over. Folks will be back to work. No one will care.

On the other hand, we are in the “Grandaddy of them all”, on January 2nd. Remember, bowl game, January 2nd?

Screw this playoff horsea$$. Insignificant.

And don't forget the thing that gets everyone pumped up to smash faces in and steamroll the opposition ... the Parade of Roses, Lattes and Scones.

 

[Mufasa94]

Agree. And more teams like TCU will get a chance to prove they deserve a spot…

No, it will be teams like Utah, Clemson, PSU, etc that have proven they aren’t nearly the most successful for the season, but hope to get lucky/hot for a few games.

The importance of an outcome in a regular season game drops significantly for all contenders.

 

[Woodpecker]

Semantical nonsense. Who cares if it's an "invitational" or a "playoff"? They do have "clear rules" for getting in .. if you're selected, you're in. Pretty clear.

It's all an invitational if every team is not included. He's proposing that conference winners get invited.

 

[LB99]

No, it will be teams like Utah, Clemson, PSU, etc that have proven they aren’t nearly the most successful for the season, but hope to get lucky/hot for a few games.

The importance of an outcome in a regular season game drops significantly for all contenders.

So, you think we should just be satisfied with seeing the same 3-4 teams every year and then watch them clean up in recruiting? It’s getting old. I was happy to see TCU win yesterday and I will be cheering for them to win it all. I enjoy seeing underdogs prove everyone wrong. The Phillies got hot in the playoffs and it made for a really exciting MLB post season. In the old format, they may not have even gotten a chance.

 

[Moogy]

It's all an invitational if every team is not included. He's proposing that conference winners get invited.

I'm aware of what he's proposing.

 

[Moogy]

No, it will be teams like Utah, Clemson, PSU, etc that have proven they aren’t nearly the most successful for the season, but hope to get lucky/hot for a few games.

The importance of an outcome in a regular season game drops significantly for all contenders.

And?

You type this like it's a bad thing.

You likely quadruple the number of teams who think they may have a shot at it all (at least getting into the playoff) deep into the season. That's a positive, if you like entertainment and interest in your sport. It's so much fun for everyone when they pick up that 2nd loss midway through the year and the fanbase and players know they're now only playing for a chance at the Oops I Crapped My Pants! Bowl in Siberia (but they have the Permafrost Parade, which is so exciting to watch!).

You have a crapload of teams that don't play each other, and they don't play many games during the year ... so widening the field for "who's the best" makes sense. And it's more fun. And it likely will result in a more balanced college football landscape as recruits realize they don't have to pile onto one or two teams in order to have a shot at the playoff.

 

[Charlie1978]

Semantical nonsense. Who cares if it's an "invitational" or a "playoff"? They do have "clear rules" for getting in .. if you're selected, you're in. Pretty clear.

Moogy 2024.

 

[Mufasa94]

So, you think we should just be satisfied with seeing the same 3-4 teams every year and then watch them clean up in recruiting? It’s getting old. I was happy to see TCU win yesterday and I will be cheering for them to win it all. I enjoy seeing underdogs prove everyone wrong. The Phillies got hot in the playoffs and it made for a really exciting MLB post season. In the old format, they may not have even gotten a chance.

It hasn’t been “the same 3-4 teams every year”. Just want the most successful teams rewarded, whoever that may be.

Outside of the “underdog” description, a 1-loss cfb TCU team is not anything like an 87 win MLB 3rd place divisional finisher 6th seeded (of 15 teams) Phillies team.

 

[Mufasa94]

And?

You type this like it's a bad thing….

To some it is. I’d have a lot more fun if I had $1 million added to my bank account taken from some billionaire’s, but that doesn’t mean it would be right.

Don’t worry, the participation trophy way of thinking is taking over.

I have a forewarning for those that crave all the fun they will have from late Oct to early Dec when their less successful favorite team will be provided one of those participation invites, be careful what you wish for. Guaranteed 4 more teams will be ending their season with a loss than there are now.

 

[LB99]

To some it is. I’d have a lot more fun if I had $1 million added to my bank account taken from some billionaire’s, but that doesn’t mean it would be right.

Don’t worry, the participation trophy way of thinking is taking over.

I have a forewarning for those that crave all the fun they will have from late Oct to early Dec when their less successful favorite team will be provided one of those participation invites, be careful what you wish for. Guaranteed 4 more teams will be ending their season with a loss than there are now.

Oh good grief. When the 6th seed wild card Steelers and Giants went on the road for their playoff games and ran the table and won the Super Bowl, was that a participation trophy? Or did they earn it? It’s sports. It’s supposed to be entertainment.

 

[LB99]

It hasn’t been “the same 3-4 teams every year”. Just want the most successful teams rewarded, whoever that may be.

Outside of the “underdog” description, a 1-loss cfb TCU team is not anything like an 87 win MLB 3rd place divisional finisher 6th seeded (of 15 teams) Phillies team.

Georgia, Clemson, Alabama, and Ohio State. Oklahoma a few times. Outside of that, ND, Cincy, TCU once each. That’s pretty much it. But the top 4 have been pretty consistent. Good for them they earned it. But wouldn’t you like to see someone new to have an opportunity to knock them off? In 2016, when Ohio State laid an egg against Clemson, would you have at least liked to see what PSU could have done in that game? Not saying they would have won, but I’m guessing they wouldn’t have gotten shutout.

 

[Moogy]

To some it is. I’d have a lot more fun if I had $1 million added to my bank account taken from some billionaire’s, but that doesn’t mean it would be right.

Don’t worry, the participation trophy way of thinking is taking over.

I have a forewarning for those that crave all the fun they will have from late Oct to early Dec when their less successful favorite team will be provided one of those participation invites, be careful what you wish for. Guaranteed 4 more teams will be ending their season with a loss than there are now.

The "participation trophy" nonsense has already been thoroughly debunked. It's a silly, desperate SDE "get off my lawn" old man trope.

But thanks for highlighting something no one cares about as a "forewarning."

There's simply far too many teams, playing far too few games, and obviously not playing like-kind schedules, to adequately select the bestest via "expert" analysis. It's much better to expand the field of contenders given this obvious truth. Additionally, expanded playoffs are just FAR more fun, as has been proven in every sport, at every level. Get over yourself. Your personal determinations of who is the bestest just doesn't mean anything. Let's see more of that determination via actual on-field play, against other teams wanting a claim of the same.

 

[Moogy]

It hasn’t been “the same 3-4 teams every year”. Just want the most successful teams rewarded, whoever that may be.

Outside of the “underdog” description, a 1-loss cfb TCU team is not anything like an 87 win MLB 3rd place divisional finisher 6th seeded (of 15 teams) Phillies team.

"the most successful teams"? According to who? How many of them? The top 2? 4? 16? 32? Whichever number you pick, those are "the most successful" of the group, so your grouping is rather meaningless without more. Why even bother having a game? Just declare the bestest based on the regular season, and be done with it, right? That's entertaining.

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

You should too. Important games are not played on December 31st on espn. And by the time they play the championship game, no one will care. The holidays will be over. Folks will be back to work. No one will care.

On the other hand, we are in the “Grandaddy of them all”, on January 2nd. Remember, bowl game, January 2nd?

Screw this playoff horsea$$. Insignificant.

Wtf, yesterday was an absolute blast

 

[Moogy]

Wtf, yesterday was an absolute blast

This may help you ..



You're welcome.

 

[LionJim]

Wtf, yesterday was an absolute blast

Dude, wow, that really went over your head. I’m speechless.

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

Just seeing this now, what happened here lionjim?
todays a car day

 

[PSUJam]

It hasn’t been “the same 3-4 teams every year”. Just want the most successful teams rewarded, whoever that may be.

Outside of the “underdog” description, a 1-loss cfb TCU team is not anything like an 87 win MLB 3rd place divisional finisher 6th seeded (of 15 teams) Phillies team.

If they are that good, they'll win the games in the playoffs and advance. The playoff format gives teams a chance to get healthy. If you have a championship worthy team but have a critical player or two go down with a non season ending injury and lose two or three games, the current format penalizes you. That's BS. Bring on the playoffs. Especially if we can have one at Beaver Stadium in December. I can't understand why anyone wouldn't love that?

 

[LionJim]

Just seeing this now, what happened here lionjim?
todays a car day

Shame on me.

 

[Mufasa94]

Georgia, Clemson, Alabama, and Ohio State.

Only 2 of those 4 named teams participated this year. As for UGA, this is their 3rd appearance, hardly an “every year” occurrence in the CFP.

Oklahoma a few times. Outside of that, ND, Cincy, TCU once each. That’s pretty much it.

If you don’t count FSU, Oregon, Washington, MSU, LSU, Cincinnati, Michigan.

But the top 4 have been pretty consistent.

Good for them they earned it. But wouldn’t you like to see someone new to have an opportunity to knock them off?

There have been a good number of teams that have participated. I have nothing against providing highly successful teams an opportunity.

In 2016, when Ohio State laid an egg against Clemson, would you have at least liked to see what PSU could have done in that game? Not saying they would have won, but I’m guessing they wouldn’t have gotten shutout.

I think that 2016 team is the most over glorified PSU team of my life. They lost to Pitt and got demolished by UM, that’s even before the Rose Bowl loss while scoring 49. What’s wrong with just acknowledging it as a good season? They were far from the most successful team in the country.

 

[Mufasa94]

The "participation trophy" nonsense has already been thoroughly debunked.

Based on what proof?

There's simply far too many teams, playing far too few games, and obviously not playing like-kind schedules, to adequately select the bestest via "expert" analysis.

Really? ND running roughshod over the ACC wasn’t proof of that conference not providing a MNC contender this year?

Or Oregon whacked by UGA along with their multiple conference losses and Utah losing to UF along with their multiple in-conference losses wasn’t enough evidence of the PAC-12?

Or, are you just a Bama lover who thinks a team should be provided numerous mulligans until they get it right?

It's much better to expand the field of contenders given this obvious truth. Additionally, expanded playoffs are just FAR more fun, as has been proven in every sport, at every level. Get over yourself.

Get over myself? You guys are the ones who are so selfish you can’t seem to find any enjoyment once your team is realistically eliminated from contention.

Let's see more of that determination via actual on-field play,

This years participants were based on the actual results of on-field play. Not winning a lower performing conference championship or whatever other accolade you think important.

 

[LB99]

Only 2 of those 4 named teams participated this year. As for UGA, this is their 3rd appearance, hardly an “every year” occurrence in the CFP.

If you don’t count FSU, Oregon, Washington, MSU, LSU, Cincinnati, Michigan.



There have been a good number of teams that have participated. I have nothing against providing highly successful teams an opportunity.

I think that 2016 team is the most over glorified PSU team of my life. They lost to Pitt and got demolished by UM, that’s even before the Rose Bowl loss while scoring 49. What’s wrong with just acknowledging it as a good season? They were far from the most successful team in the country.

Nobody said they were the most successful team in the country. You put those words in my mouth. PSU and USC were 2 teams that had a lot of momentum going at the end of 2016. It would have been interesting to see if they could keep it going in the playoffs, especially since they were conference champs.
I get it. You are a “Get off my lawn” guy. While you are grumbling about the playoffs, the rest of us will be enjoying them.

 

[PSUJam]

Based on what proof?

Really? ND running roughshod over the ACC wasn’t proof of that conference not providing a MNC contender this year?

Or Oregon whacked by UGA along with their multiple conference losses and Utah losing to UF along with their multiple in-conference losses wasn’t enough evidence of the PAC-12?

Or, are you just a Bama lover who thinks a team should be provided numerous mulligans until they get it right?

Get over myself? You guys are the ones who are so selfish you can’t seem to find any enjoyment once your team is realistically eliminated from contention.


This years participants were based on the actual results of on-field play. Not winning a lower performing conference championship or whatever other accolade you think important.

Why did you ignore my post but quoted everyone else?

 

[Rick76]

Agreed but once we go to 12 teams PSU fans will be sucked in. The PSU $$$ is probably a factor in their marketing plan.

It would have been really fun to play a home playoff game in December when the temperature was like last weekend (0 degrees and 20 below windchills).