Kentucky this weekend. I've never rooted against State baseball and probably never will again but if our boys luck up and win a series against Cohen, all of Polk's sheep will then really get behind this Raffo idea. I really feel pretty bad saying it but hell, our season's down the ******* anyway. Go Kats!
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Kentucky this weekend. I've never rooted against State baseball and probably never will again but if our boys luck up and win a series against Cohen, all of Polk's sheep will then really get behind this Raffo idea. I really feel pretty bad saying it but hell, our season's down the ******* anyway. Go Kats!
Also, if I was Cohen, I would kiss Polk's *** the entire weekend. I'm talking Cubans, plaques, watches, have the entire team bow down to him, whatever. That MIGHT make him rethink his choice at least a little.
However, I have a feeling that Cohen could also tell him to kiss his ***, and maybe that's I really want Cohen to come.
However, I have a feeling that Cohen could also tell him to kiss his ***, and maybe that's I really want Cohen to come.
****. This "we will be better off in the long run if we lose" **** just blows my damn mind. I want to whip the hell out of every swinging dick we play. How in the hell can you think tanking makes us better.
Holy ****.
Holy ****.
best scenario would be that State takes the series in 3 hard fought extra inning affairs. That way, the dogs win but Cohen saves face by battling down to the wire with the old master. The servant is never greater than the master, so to speak. Both camps stay happy.
......anything about Cohen or Raffo or even Polk himself. All it would say is that the sun shines on a dog's *** some days. Unfortunately there's some truth to your concern though. We have a large contingent of brainless fans who will in fact take it as a sign that Polk/Raffo are better than Cohen and that Raffo should be our man.
Our pitching + hitters ballpark = Lots of home runs.
Especially if we keep going with Carver (maybe Whitney again), Swindle (who pitches pretty decently, but we never score him any runs, and Bowen (Good at home, real bad on the road.)
Plus, you can be sure that Polk is going to be doing even less small ball to try to prove to Darth Cohen that his path is better. That will probably work into UK's hands. Plus, what's the status on Cody Freeman? I know he twisted his knee or something like that. If GPAA Johnny Allen plays, I guarantee you that Cohen will be running like crazy.
Especially if we keep going with Carver (maybe Whitney again), Swindle (who pitches pretty decently, but we never score him any runs, and Bowen (Good at home, real bad on the road.)
Plus, you can be sure that Polk is going to be doing even less small ball to try to prove to Darth Cohen that his path is better. That will probably work into UK's hands. Plus, what's the status on Cody Freeman? I know he twisted his knee or something like that. If GPAA Johnny Allen plays, I guarantee you that Cohen will be running like crazy.
"and Bowen (Good at home, real bad on the road.)"
He has pitched pretty well at home, but at UNF and South Carolina, he has been horrible. He is the antithesis to Polk's "pressure at home" theory of underachievement.
He has pitched pretty well at home, but at UNF and South Carolina, he has been horrible. He is the antithesis to Polk's "pressure at home" theory of underachievement.
....you have yet to put forth any kind of intelligent argument that backs your position. All you do is say "that's stupid," yet you can't explain WHY it's not right. And when you have to resort to insults, that tells me you have no argument.
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Winning is the goal here. The only goal. Losing sets the program back. Winning moves it forward. The damage has been done with the Polk regime. The only way Raffo gets hired is if we make a lazy, unthought out, good old boy, Templeton-esque hire.
....winning from here on out increases our chances of making a "lazy, unthought out, good old boy, Templeton-esque hire." Losing from here on out increases the level of disdain that people have for the current administration and puts more pressure on the athletic department to bring in somebody from the outside rather than "staying the course."
....you don't seem to be able to do it.
DD: This is my opinion.
CB9: You're stupid.
DD: Why? Can you explain your position?
CB9: What an idiot.
DD: Why am I an idiot?
CB9: You're stupid.
It's like talking to a parrot who only knows three or four phrases.
DD: This is my opinion.
CB9: You're stupid.
DD: Why? Can you explain your position?
CB9: What an idiot.
DD: Why am I an idiot?
CB9: You're stupid.
It's like talking to a parrot who only knows three or four phrases.
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tells us that something is working.
But guess what? It ain't gonna happen anyway. I can only hope that we don't lose too much and it doesn't get too embarrassing.
But guess what? It ain't gonna happen anyway. I can only hope that we don't lose too much and it doesn't get too embarrassing.
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You are saying that losing helps the program, then ridiculing someone else for calling you out. You got problems.
I wasn't addressing you, because it appears that you don't have the neurons to grasp it either. I'll put it this way: Winning helps the program only if you believe that Tommy Raffo should be the next head coach. Like you, if we went to Omaha again, I'd be ready to sign Raffo up. However, AT THIS POINT, it would take a fairly substantial turnaround from our current trend to even slip into the SEC tournament and be shipped off in a regional somewhere. If MSU were a normal place, I'd be all for the players getting postseason experience, extending their season, etc. But there are plenty of IDIOTIC fans that view that as "success" and, coupled with Polk's very obnoxious and public endorsement, would use that as grounds to continue to "stay the course" and reward Raffo for his loyalty, because after all, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," etc.
However, most sane MSU fans realize that MSU baseball deserves better, and we are not naturally disadvantaged like we are in football, and to some extent, basketball, and we don't have to settle for promoting an assistant.
Analogy: It would be like Bama promoting Joe Kines to HC after getting to the Indy bowl in Shula's last year. They believed their program deserved better, so they went out and got the best coach they could find. The difference in Bama and MSU? Their fanbase would not let their administration get away with an "easy hire." And ours will, especially if you give them any little **** hair of success.
However, most sane MSU fans realize that MSU baseball deserves better, and we are not naturally disadvantaged like we are in football, and to some extent, basketball, and we don't have to settle for promoting an assistant.
Analogy: It would be like Bama promoting Joe Kines to HC after getting to the Indy bowl in Shula's last year. They believed their program deserved better, so they went out and got the best coach they could find. The difference in Bama and MSU? Their fanbase would not let their administration get away with an "easy hire." And ours will, especially if you give them any little **** hair of success.
That's what needs to happen. We need to be embarrassed. We need to be pissed off. Everybody from the AD, to the big money guys, to the casual fans needs to be sick of the Polk BS and unified that we need to pony up and go get a great coach.
This isn't MSU football. We don't have to "prove" that you can win here. We won't have trouble attracting a good coach no matter what happens the rest of the year. We very well COULD have trouble convincing the key decision makers that we need an energetic outsider if we fart around and slip in the NCAA tournament.
This isn't MSU football. We don't have to "prove" that you can win here. We won't have trouble attracting a good coach no matter what happens the rest of the year. We very well COULD have trouble convincing the key decision makers that we need an energetic outsider if we fart around and slip in the NCAA tournament.
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Gene's group is the minority.
Cowbell's mouthpiece? Brilliant. I was the one who called you out on this idiotic idea first, pal.
Cowbell's mouthpiece? Brilliant. I was the one who called you out on this idiotic idea first, pal.
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...you're far too dense to comprehend it. When Raffo is hired, and we endure the same **** for many years to come, maybe then you'll get it.
is that if we start winning, than is that not the ultimate goal? who care's who's in charge, as long as we're winning. what it looks like you're saying is "i dont want us to win bc such and such is the coach!" well who cares who the coach is, as long as we're winning?!
But we realize that this season is pretty much hopeless anyway and would be willing to finish with a 20-36 record instead of a 30-26 record if that's what it took to keep Raffo from getting the job. We're convinced he's not currently qualified to be a head coach in big-time college baseball. If he does get the job, I'll hope like hell that I'm wrong about him. But I really don't think I am.
...I would like to thank you and the JesusGod who sent you for eloquently putting what I have been trying to get across for 2 days now. I am tired of fighting the morons, for they are few, but they are loud and obnoxious. Brace yourself for cowbell9 to call you an idiot and then not be able to defend his position. Brace yourself for Goat, he can't get it either. The battle is now yours.
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you still have no point. Opinion of Raffo is not going to change whether we go 30-26 or 20-36. I told you once, those sheep that feel 30-26 is good enough are just the loudmouths on Gene's and are not influential at all.
I'd rather have SOME success.
I'd rather have SOME success.
.....you still haven't said why what Pat and I are saying is wrong. Because you can't. Because we're not.
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