I think I witnessed the winning horse of the Kentucky Derby Just get abused on live tv

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The winning horse tried to bite the other horse.
Act like you’ve been there before Rich Strike

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The winning horse tried to bite the other horse.
Act like you’ve been there before Rich Strike

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The winning horse was biting the shat out of the other horse (pony). The ponyboy, guy riding the other horse (pony), was attempting the defend his horse, which I'm sure he owned and cared for. The winning jockey was an *** for not attempting to get Rich Strike under control. Yes I know it's hard to get a horse under control but that jerk didn't even try.

@Mr. Potter you got it completely wrong.
 
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Rich Strike is a stallion.

Stallions are at the equine stage of development where they try to exhibit their toxic masculinity

Rich Strike was energized after having run a great race and was simply trying to show dominance over the smaller pony.
 
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Rich Strike is a stallion.

Stallions are at the equine stage of development where they try to exhibit their toxic masculinity

Rich Strike was energized after having run a great race and was simply trying to show dominance over the smaller pony.
Had a little help from his friends?
 

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Rich Strike is a stallion.

Stallions are at the equine stage of development where they try to exhibit their toxic masculinity

Rich Strike was energized after having run a great race and was simply trying to show dominance over the smaller pony.
I worked on the track for a long time. You don't let that shat go on. It's not always easy, but you stop it. The ponyboy knew the cameras were on him and he tried his best and finally started punching after his horse had been bitten about 10 or more times, which quickly got it under control. I would have punched on the first or second bite and verbally layed into the jockey for not bearing down on the right side rein.
 
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I worked on the track for a long time. You don't let that shat go on. It's not always easy, but you stop it. The ponyboy knew the cameras were on him and he tried his best and finally started punching after his horse had been bitten about 10 or more times, which quickly got it under control. I would have punched on the first or second bite and verbally layed into the jockey for not bearing down on the right side rein.

Why didn’t pony separate and move along and allow RS to calm down? Calming him down by punching him seems weird.

Also, daughter just started riding so getting to know about some of this stuff.
 

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Rich Strike is a stallion.

Stallions are at the equine stage of development where they try to exhibit their toxic masculinity

Rich Strike was energized after having run a great race and was simply trying to show dominance over the smaller pony.
He was like BW: "Bring on the fillies!" :cool:
 
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Why didn’t pony separate and move along and allow RS to calm down? Calming him down by punching him seems weird.

Also, daughter just started riding so getting to know about some of this stuff.
that was what I thought. why not just separate and let the jockey calm the horse down. Not sure I have ever seen anything like that. also don't think I have ever seen an 80:1 catch the leaders like that. a $30k horse.
I worked on the track for a long time. You don't let that shat go on. It's not always easy, but you stop it. The ponyboy knew the cameras were on him and he tried his best and finally started punching after his horse had been bitten about 10 or more times, which quickly got it under control. I would have punched on the first or second bite and verbally layed into the jockey for not bearing down on the right side rein.
since you are one person this thread who actually knows how all this works, a simple question. WHY do they even need a ponyboy? Why can't the riders just get their horses under control and take them back to wherever they are supposed to go - the stable? In this case it did not look like it helped much.
 

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Why didn’t pony separate and move along and allow RS to calm down? Calming him down by punching him seems weird.

Also, daughter just started riding so getting to know about some of this stuff.

I thought the horses are there to calm and guide the racehorses as they are typically very high strung. What surprised me was the size of the guide horse. Not that I go to a lot of racetracks, but the ones I have been to have had horses much larger than the racehorses. This one looked pretty similar in size.
 
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I thought the horses are there to calm and guide the racehorses as they are typically very high strung. What surprised me was the size of the guide horse. Not that I go to a lot of racetracks, but the ones I have been to have had horses much larger than the racehorses. This one looked pretty similar in size.

Yeah, I know they have sort of partner horses to calm them down but it was obvious it wasn’t working; painful to watch RS continually go after the other horse and just not sure why the partner didn’t just leave.
 
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Why didn’t pony separate and move along and allow RS to calm down? Calming him down by punching him seems weird.

Also, daughter just started riding so getting to know about some of this stuff.
Thoroughbreds are often extremely high-spirited and aggressive, especially on race day, but for many it's a way of life. I don't know Rich Strike but he looked like a crazy to me and having just won the derby means his stud fee worth immediately got bumped into the many millions of dollars. If the ponyboy had let him go and he got hurt that guy would have been in serious trouble and at a minimum would have never worked horses again.

It's hard to explain, but unless you've been in the same position as the ponyboy with a crazy horse having just finished a race, it's even harder to understand but punching is often the only thing that will get their attention. If you saw the whole clip you'll notice that after he landed a few good rounds Rich Strike backed off and stopped biting. I really feel for the hot walker who had to cool him down for his urine sample. Yes, they actually take a urine sample of the first four horses after every race at every track.

A "hot walker" is a guy or gal who walks a horse after training or a race in order to cool them down. Once "about" cooled down if you let them drink some water they'll usually pee "like a race horse" after which they are cooled down. Immediately after a race they walk them under supervision and a "sampler" is called when the horse is ready to pee. I'll bet Rich Strike was hell-on-wheels during his cool down walk yesterday.
 
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that was what I thought. why not just separate and let the jockey calm the horse down. Not sure I have ever seen anything like that. also don't think I have ever seen an 80:1 catch the leaders like that. a $30k horse.

since you are one person this thread who actually knows how all this works, a simple question. WHY do they even need a ponyboy? Why can't the riders just get their horses under control and take them back to wherever they are supposed to go - the stable? In this case it did not look like it helped much.
Most thoroughbred horses are extremely high-spirited and easily "spooked". Some aren't, but again most are and especially on race day. That's all race day long, starting early they are treated differently from all other mornings and they immediately know that they'll be racing. If you spend any time in the mornings on a shed-row (long barns on track property where the horses are kept) you'd know what I mean, but it's clear they know and get overly excited.

If you go to your local track on any weekday (weekends are a bit different) you will usually see a horse or several horses in each race without a pony escort. They are the few that behave themselves. However, Stakes Horses (those that run in high dollar races and are worth a lot of money) almost always have an escort, regardless if they are crazy or not, to keep them safe.

Oh, and when a thoroughbred decides to "go crazy", no single rider is going to control him. Did you see #2 break out of the starting gate and five or six guys had to basically drag him back in right before gates opened? That was a high-spirited horse going nuts on race day.
 
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Sunday Silence was a nasty horse. Leading up to the Belmont Stakes a backstretch worker was walking too close the stalls when SS reached out bit his coat and actually tried to pull him up against the door.
 

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It's also important to remember these horses are significantly larger than the human. What looks pretty bad would still be more akin to to a declawed cat taking a swipe to get your attention.
 
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Sunday Silence was a nasty horse. Leading up to the Belmont Stakes a backstretch worker was walking too close the stalls when SS reached out bit his coat and actually tried to pull him up against the door.
You learn within the first 5 minutes on the job in never walk close to the stalls. It's almost seems like a carnival game as the horses heads pop out of the stalls as you approach. They are just hoping you'll be close enough to bite/grab. They literally hide in the stall and wait until you enter their window of sight and launch out. If I had to guess, 40% are mean, 80% and high-strung (this includes the mean ones), and therefore capable of completely losing it, and 20% are somewhat docile.

I do have many great stories where I was in some very precarious situations on the track.
 

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You learn within the first 5 minutes on the job in never walk close to the stalls. It's almost seems like a carnival game as the horses heads pop out of the stalls as you approach. They are just hoping you'll be close enough to bite/grab. They literally hide in the stall and wait until you enter their window of sight and launch out. If I had to guess, 40% are mean, 80% and high-strung (this includes the mean ones), and therefore capable of completely losing it, and 20% are somewhat docile.

I do have many great stories where I was in some very precarious situations on the track.
That’s exactly the way Sunday Silence grabbed him. From the side view you couldn’t see the horse, he was out of sight and out of nowhere his head and neck extended out grabbing the guy’s coat and pulled him towards the door. You’re right, they’re very high strung. A day or so before the race Sunday Silence reared up and clipped Charlie Whittingham in the head causing a cut and swelling.
 

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It's also important to remember these horses are significantly larger than the human. What looks pretty bad would still be more akin to to a declawed cat taking a swipe to get your attention.
So true. If you ever see some of the kicks and beatings they take from each other while out in the pasture at times. A punch from a human is barely even noticeable.
 
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