If the top end of P5 split from NCAA, what does it look like?

[Got GSPs]

Is this just football splitting off and remaining sports are still NCAA? Will entire conferences be included SEC and Big Ten, or will the best/most valuable teams from each conference be selected? If it’s only the best, how many teams and who are they?

 

[GrimReaper]

Why does any group of schools split? The only reason that immediately comes to mind is that some schools want to pay players directly and others don't.

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

There will be no NCAA come 2025.

 

[psuro]

There will be no NCAA come 2025.

There could be something worse.

 

[BobPSU92]

Since we all know nothing about Penn State is “top end”, this is what it means for us:

 

[PSUJam]

There could be something worse.

 

[91Joe95]

Maybe Emmert is "retiring" to go start up a competing college sports association, the National Association of College Athletics, or NACA.

 

[ODShowtime]

Dude, please don't temp the football gods. They are a capricious bunch. Your point is well taken, though.

 

[mrmk5110]

When the inevitable happens and the top conferences split, there will be a lot of unhappy fanbases when below 500 records become the norm for these “P5” programs. If you can only play P5 teams going forward, we’ll, someone will have to lose these games.

Texas going 3-9 might set Austin ablaze.

 

[psuro]

Texas going 3-9 might set Austin ablaze.

That is called Community Redevelopment down there in Tejas.

 

[PSUJam]

Dude, please don't temp the football gods. They are a capricious bunch. Your point is well taken, though.

I really find it hard to believe there could be worse governance than the NCAA otherwise known as North Carolina Asskissing Authority.

 

[Truthfinder]

Much poorer

 

[PSUJam]

Much poorer

 

[Psu00]

Is this just football splitting off and remaining sports are still NCAA? Will entire conferences be included SEC and Big Ten, or will the best/most valuable teams from each conference be selected? If it’s only the best, how many teams and who are they?

Who knows. It could go in many directions.

That said, the people choosing the new approach will be the same people who created and supported the NCAA. The same people who just gave Emmett a contract extension a few months ago.

Judging by past behavior, especially watching the evolution from bowls to BCS to the current 4 team playoff, there will likely be no big bold moves. It will be very slow and with minor changes- taking years to get any real change.

As only football and basketball make money, all eyes will be on them but the ADs and presidents making the decisions still need to represent the rest of their sports. I just don’t see them allowing football and basketball to break away.

I think the P5 conferences will stick together. Clemson needs to fill a schedule with winnable games- Wake, Duke, BC, Syracuse, NC State. Same goes for Ohio St with Illinois, Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana, Northwestern. I just don’t see a super conference of Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Ohio St, etc. being formed.

 

[Got GSPs]

I think the P5 conferences will stick together. Clemson needs to fill a schedule with winnable games- Wake, Duke, BC, Syracuse, NC State. Same goes for Ohio St with Illinois, Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana, Northwestern. I just don’t see a super conference of Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Ohio St, etc. being formed.

Yes, I can see that logic. But, will Boston College and Vanderbuilt want to spend money to compete with Clemson, Alabama and Ohio State? Heck, I'm not even sure that Penn State will want to be in that deep...

 

[Psu00]

Yes, I can see that logic. But, will Boston College and Vanderbuilt want to spend money to compete with Clemson, Alabama and Ohio State? Heck, I'm not even sure that Penn State will want to be in that deep...

Good point. I think most will try (at least in the beginning). They aren’t going to give up access to that money.

I think many schools like BC and Vandy will likely drop minor Olympic sports in the process of trying to keep football and basketball in the top division. Over time they’ll have to decide what’s more important to them- all in on football and bball or drop a division for more sports choices with an Ivy League type approach (but with a serious drop in revenues).

 

[Aquapong]

Who cares? College football and basketball are just pro lite now with the portal and NIL.

 

[Got GSPs]

Good point. I think most will try (at least in the beginning). They aren’t going to give up access to that money.

I think many schools like BC and Vandy will likely drop minor Olympic sports in the process of trying to keep football and basketball in the top division. Over time they’ll have to decide what’s more important to them- all in on football and bball or drop a division for more sports choices with an Ivy League type approach (but with a serious drop in revenues).

And why would Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State want to share the high end profits with teams like BC and Vandy?

 

[Shadow99]

I think the P5 conferences will stick together. Clemson needs to fill a schedule with winnable games- Wake, Duke, BC, Syracuse, NC State. Same goes for Ohio St with Illinois, Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana, Northwestern. I just don’t see a super conference of Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Ohio St, etc. being formed.

When the inevitable happens and the top conferences split, there will be a lot of unhappy fanbases when below 500 records become the norm for these “P5” programs. If you can only play P5 teams going forward, we’ll, someone will have to lose these games.

Texas going 3-9 might set Austin ablaze.

Concerning the points made by Psu00 and mrmk5110 above, imho it has always been a (likely purposeful) glaring omission in the discussion of a so-called "super-conference"... that such a conference will be filled with teams with significantly more losses than each is used to having. This point hardly ever gets discussed, so kudos to the two of you who actually did bring it up. A super-conference by definition will have at MOST one single undefeated team, and even that may be unlikely. Just using a hypothetical, how long would Oklahoma be considered a football "power" if they average 4 losses per year in the SEC? A "super-conference" would magnify that even more, and for not just one but many teams.

 

[91Joe95]

I don't think the breakaway would be as extreme as some may imagine. I expect all schools to keep playing each other, similar to how a BCS and FCS team still play each other. What I think changes, besides the tv contracts, are the playoffs, with two distinct and separate groups.