If you were the NCAA, how would you punish tampering?

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Schools are no doubt going to great lengths to cover their tracks. As Mack Brown said, there’s no way anyone is leaving a paper trail. But, assuming that you could prove tampering, how would you punish it if you were the NCAA?

I’d go scorched earth. The school loses a bunch of scholarships and gets a 2 year postseason ban. Player is ineligible for a year.
 
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Pull any portal schollie, school tampering, get that schollie pulled and two they have committed, deny those. Make institutions hold character and trustworthiness accountable.
this is how I look at teaching these kids a lesson for future decisions.
My kids were taught, what you say in public, are how you are remembered.
 

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If I were the NCAA, I’d turn my eyes and not look because it’s out of control and almost impossible to enforce. Not to mention, it’ll eventually get to the point where everyone does it.

As a fan, I wish they’d have heavy penalties. But I don’t expect the NCAA to do anything about it. NIL was about as close to rebellion against the NCAA as it gets. They can’t control it and they know it. They’re hanging on by a thread at this point.
 

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Schools are no doubt going to great lengths to cover their tracks. As Mack Brown said, there’s no way anyone is leaving a paper trail. But, assuming that you could prove tampering, how would you punish it if you were the NCAA?

I’d go scorched earth. The school loses a bunch of scholarships and gets a 2 year postseason ban. Player is ineligible for a year.
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The main issue is how do you prove that tampering took place? If I'm a tampering school, I'm not putting anything in writing. Without physical evidence its going to be hard to prove. If you would get enough evidence then would the NCAA infractions committee be the one to determine if it did?
 
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Schools are no doubt going to great lengths to cover their tracks. As Mack Brown said, there’s no way anyone is leaving a paper trail. But, assuming that you could prove tampering, how would you punish it if you were the NCAA?

I’d go scorched earth. The school loses a bunch of scholarships and gets a 2 year postseason ban. Player is ineligible for a year.
I’m harder. Immediate suspension of the program athletic team that tampers for two years. Limit scholarships by 20% for the following two years.
 
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Schools are no doubt going to great lengths to cover their tracks. As Mack Brown said, there’s no way anyone is leaving a paper trail. But, assuming that you could prove tampering, how would you punish it if you were the NCAA?

I’d go scorched earth. The school loses a bunch of scholarships and gets a 2 year postseason ban. Player is ineligible for
Both the school and the athletes should be punished because both sides know tampering is against the regulations. The athlete should lose one year of eligibility and the school should lose scholarships. Obviously this is never going to happen.
 

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Schools are no doubt going to great lengths to cover their tracks. As Mack Brown said, there’s no way anyone is leaving a paper trail. But, assuming that you could prove tampering, how would you punish it if you were the NCAA?

I’d go scorched earth. The school loses a bunch of scholarships and gets a 2 year postseason ban. Player is ineligible for a year.
Agree, the scholarship thing really hurts. It might be all that is needed.
 

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Schools are no doubt going to great lengths to cover their tracks. As Mack Brown said, there’s no way anyone is leaving a paper trail. But, assuming that you could prove tampering, how would you punish it if you were the NCAA?

I’d go scorched earth. The school loses a bunch of scholarships and gets a 2 year postseason ban. Player is ineligible for a year.
Put a limit on incoming transfers.
 

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Schools are no doubt going to great lengths to cover their tracks. As Mack Brown said, there’s no way anyone is leaving a paper trail. But, assuming that you could prove tampering, how would you punish it if you were the NCAA?

I’d go scorched earth. The school loses a bunch of scholarships and gets a 2 year postseason ban. Player is ineligible for a year.
You may have implied it by definition but - come right and hammer it home by saying instead of postseason ban, change the language to "Disqualified from playoffs." - Splitting hairs I know but these youngsters hear "postseason ban" and they may not associate that with "No playoffs for us." Make it crystal clear in the language and really hammer that language home..... JMHO.
 

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Loss of 10 scholarships for two years, player loses two years of eligibility and offending coach (actual coach who made contact) gets 4 year suspension with show cause for any job at any NCAA program.

Penalty has to be so bad that programs will not even consider tampering.
 

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They can’t stop tampering in the pro leagues and I doubt it can be stopped in the college ranks.
As long as agents/handlers are in involved it gives that deniability.
 
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Loss of 10 scholarships for two years, player loses two years of eligibility and offending coach (actual coach who made contact) gets 4 year suspension with show cause for any job at any NCAA program.

Penalty has to be so bad that programs will not even consider tampering.
That’s just it, there isn’t any direct contact. Beaner calls agent, agent reaches out to the newberry college running backs parents and offers money, parents talk to son and son goes to Carolina. No direct tampering. Yes it happened just like that. I am close to that situation. We tampered to get him from newberry and those are facts.
 

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That’s just it, there isn’t any direct contact. Beaner calls agent, agent reaches out to the newberry college running backs parents and offers money, parents talk to son and son goes to Carolina. No direct tampering. Yes it happened just like that. I am close to that situation. We tampered to get him from newberry and those are facts.
Be close and stay close but don't share with us. First rule of Fight Club and Tampering, when we do it...
 
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The problem is that NCAA "punishments", 9 times out of 10, are levied long after the offending athletes are gone from the institution. The offender never actually suffers. The only athletes suffering are those that are there currently and basically innocent.

Figure out a way to punish the offenders when they are actually committing the infractions, and you might see a change. But as it is now, why would they (the athlete/booster/administrators) even care if they are caught? Sure the school does, but again, it's punishment long after the fact, and the offenders (athletes/boosters/administrators) are long gone.
 
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If I'm the ncaa, I'm not doing a dang thing. Evidently its gonna take an act of Congress to get any kind of fix in motion. Until such time, let the madness continue. No bandaids from me.
 

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If I'm the ncaa, I'm not doing a dang thing. Evidently its gonna take an act of Congress to get any kind of fix in motion. Until such time, let the madness continue. No bandaids from me.
Interesting perspective.....and not one that I can completely disagree with.
 

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I’m harder. Immediate suspension of the program athletic team that tampers for two years. Limit scholarships by 20% for the following two years.
Good start. How do we punish the coaches involved?
 

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Fine the school and suspend any coaches involved. Obviously any player that was tampered with can't be allowed to play for the tampering school as well.
 

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That’s just it, there isn’t any direct contact. Beaner calls agent, agent reaches out to the newberry college running backs parents and offers money, parents talk to son and son goes to Carolina. No direct tampering. Yes it happened just like that. I am close to that situation. We tampered to get him from newberry and those are facts.
Beamer is the offending party in that scenario and should be punished along with the program as a whole and the Newberry player. It should work the same as a criminal conspiracy, everyone involved gets punished.
 
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