I'm glad for the players that are staying, along with the recent report of Anderson, but...

[18IsTheMan]

Kind of glad anyway. It's reported that Tonka, Huntley, Anderson (soon-to-be-announced) and others stayed after deals were worked out with Garnet Trust. So we basically had to pay them to stay, which is just the new world of college football. As Uva reported it, each player announced plans to return after Garnet Trust deals were done.

What gets me is that Beamer and others will implore fans to be emotionally invested in a team that is increasingly made up of players who don't REALLY want to be here but we just made it worth their while financially. But there's this constant pressure on the fans to be emotionally invested. Why should fans be emotionally invested when the players are not? This destroys the whole fabric of what has made college sports special.

Anderson, in particular, irks me. I mean, good for him. But he was plucked from total obscurity last year by Beamer. There were no other P5 or even G5 schools sniffing around for him. Beamer singlehandedly plucked from obscurity and set him for a potential shot at the NFL. Now he's gotta get paid?

I am clearly not built for this new age of college football.

 

[adcoop]

With regard to Anderson, either we are incredibly dumb as a program or Anderson does have a market to get paid by someone. You don't bid against yourself. So, I am thinking that there were a couple teams willing to pay him after seeing him on the field with us. Fans have to stop pocket-watching if they are going to remain in this new version of the product. It was professional sports masquerading as amateur athletics 40 years ago. It just wasn't in your face like it is now. Basically, it is legal now for what SMU got the death penalty for in the 80's. We all know SMU wasn't the only program with a payment plan for their players back then.

 

[Deleted11512]

With regard to Anderson, either we are incredibly dumb as a program or Anderson does have a market to get paid by someone. You don't bid against yourself. So, I am thinking that there were a couple teams willing to pay him after seeing him on the field with us. Fans have to stop pocket-watching if they are going to remain in this new version of the product. It was professional sports masquerading as amateur athletics 40 years ago. It just wasn't in your face like it is now. Basically, it is legal now for what SMU got the death penalty for in the 80's. We all know SMU wasn't the only program with a payment plan for their players back then.

We were bidding against the NFL. As a key member of a SEC program, he has a market…as do the defensive guys.

 

[18IsTheMan]

With regard to Anderson, either we are incredibly dumb as a program or Anderson does have a market to get paid by someone. You don't bid against yourself. So, I am thinking that there were a couple teams willing to pay him after seeing him on the field with us. Fans have to stop pocket-watching if they are going to remain in this new version of the product. It was professional sports masquerading as amateur athletics 40 years ago. It just wasn't in your face like it is now. Basically, it is legal now for what SMU got the death penalty for in the 80's. We all know SMU wasn't the only program with a payment plan for their players back then.

There are always fans who dismiss the changes as "it's always been this way, it's just in the open now" but that's just simply not true. To take something that was happening on a comparatively small scale and expand it to the norm is not "just the way it's always been". Were athletes getting paid under the table here and there? Sure. But that is a far cry from having to pay even average players just to get them to stay.

 

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There are always fans who dismiss the changes as "it's always been this way, it's just in the open now" but that's just simply not true. To take something that was happening on a comparatively small scale and expand it to the norm is not "just the way it's always been". Were athletes getting paid under the table here and there? Sure. But that is a far cry from having to pay even average players just to get them to stay.

The money is much bigger 18. The game has markedly changed on the revenue side due to television and other media streams. At some point, you have to compensate the players who make a big ingredient of that or you will end up with no game. You can't have everyone profiting more and more and tell the players that a scholarship and opportunity to be seen is enough. Players can't get a job like students. All college football players do pretty much is lift weights, practice, go to study hall, Class, and Play games. Then the good ones are asked (no basically made) to take pictures, do media, speak to a bunch of strangers that they don't know. All to promote the product where some believe a scholarship is enough. The game had to change. Now, the current system of NIL is probably not the answer, but the system of playing for the love of the school had to change. If you don't like where the game is going, blame ESPN and all the media outlets that have turned Amateur Athletics into a Semi-Pro product for product content.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Now even Doty is signing deals with Garnet Trust? I mean, come on. Nice guy and all. Gamecock through and through, but what has he done on the field to earn a pay day?

 

[Gradstudent]

Now even Doty is signing deals with Garnet Trust? I mean, come on. Nice guy and all. Gamecock through and through, but what has he done on the field to earn a pay day?

Some companies base their representations and what they want back in return on more then just football ability and results, I know he has been very involved with a Beachmade brand. He has been a marketable athlete to them and the Myrtle Beach area,

Per them: We are proud to have Luke Doty on our Native Sons team. Character, respect and leadership are earned on and off the field. Don’t be sleeping on this beach made MB boy ! Go Luke

Good for him and good for that company. It fits.

 

[Deleted11512]

Some companies base their representations and what they want back in return on more then just football ability and results, I know he has been very involved with a Beachmade brand. He has been a marketable athlete to them and the Myrtle Beach area,

Per them: We are proud to have Luke Doty on our Native Sons team. Character, respect and leadership are earned on and off the field. Don’t be sleeping on this beach made MB boy ! Go Luke

Good for him and good for that company. It fits.

True. Doty is really popular, as was DK.

 

[Gamecock Lincoln]

Now even Doty is signing deals with Garnet Trust? I mean, come on. Nice guy and all. Gamecock through and through, but what has he done on the field to earn a pay day?

He played his heart out and unselfishly did whatever the coaches asked him to do. He had as much or more impact than Wells who broke the bank and saved his red shirt so he could pimp himself out.

 

[18IsTheMan]

True. Doty is really popular, as was DK.

He played his heart out and unselfishly did whatever the coaches asked him to do. He had as much or more impact than Wells who broke the bank and saved his red shirt so he could pimp himself out.

I get all that, but I guess where do you draw the line between paying guys who are impact players vs paying guys who are good guys?

But, hey, I don't think any of them should be getting paid, so I'm biased.

 

[Gradstudent]

I get all that, but I guess where do you draw the line between paying guys who are impact players vs paying guys who are good guys?

But, hey, I don't think any of them should be getting paid, so I'm biased.

I would speculate that it depends on the company's relationship and approach to Garnet Trust.

They are giving the Garnet Trust money, they may already have a specific athlete and specific service needed in mind, or maybe some companies are owned by a bigtime Gamecock supporter who says here, tell me what we get, if we give this and then they say well we need to do something with player X or he is bolting so here is a idea. I'm sure there are discussions on each opportunity/player. They have to fit the company with the player.

 

[Deleted11512]

I get all that, but I guess where do you draw the line between paying guys who are impact players vs paying guys who are good guys?

But, hey, I don't think any of them should be getting paid, so I'm biased.

We’re not paying anyone. A private company has decided to sign him through GT.

 

[18IsTheMan]

We’re not paying anyone. A private company has decided to sign him through GT.

We, they, us, whatever. wink wink

 

[Gradstudent]

We’re not paying anyone. A private company has decided to sign him through GT.

Exactly, a private company that most likely has a advertising budget, which if not owned by a huge Gamecock fan, has to justify why they spent X with the Garnet trust, so they may make decision based on their company, location and products, which is different then what the average football fan would decide.

 

[92Pony]

True. Doty is really popular, as was DK.

And you know, I guess *that* really is more in the spirit of NIL than what it quickly turned into; a popular athlete who is seen by a company as someone who they’d like to have promote their goods. Because of his NAME and visibility, he can help them and make a few dollars from it. I can certainly get behind that waaay more than the disgusting pay-for-play that it actually is in 99% of cases.