I'm glad message boards didn’t exist 60 years ago

[saturdaysarebetter]

Imagine this scenario: A young college football head coach had a 5-5 record in his first season as head coach and his team did not make a bowl game. It took until his second year for that coach to lead his team to a bowl game.

In his first bowl game and with his team leading 17-0 in the second half, this young coach’s team had a fourth-and-inches from their OWN 15-yard line. You punt right? Your defense is pitching a shutout. Nobody goes for a fourth down from their OWN 15-yard line. That is crazy to even think about trying.

Sure enough, he had his team go for it and they failed to make the first down. The opposing team capitalized on the great field position and scored a quick touchdown. Any momentum that coach’s team had now belonged to their opponent.

The opposing team, now back in the football game, scored another touchdown and added a field goal and the game ended in a 17-17 tie.

Imagine the outcry from that school’s fans, college football fans and football “experts” on football message boards, on Facebook and on Twitter and on national and cable sports news shows for a coach going for it on fourth down from his own 15-yard line when ahead 17-0. The coach would be called an idiot. Fans would be calling for his job. Don’t let him back on the plane to come home! Fire him on the tarmac at the airport! It would be brutal and that is putting it mildly.

It is not the critic who counts...

It is not the critic who counts

Imagine this scenario: A young college football head coach had a 5-5 record in his first season as head coach and his team did not make a bowl game. It took until his second year for that coach to …

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[BobPSU92]

They did. Where were you? This place lit up back in ‘66.

 

[IrishHerb]

Very true.

Seems like now days some schools are firing their coaches too quickly.

Back in the days when Hesburgh was president at ND, he basically told all of the new coaching hires " You have a 5 year contract ... we want to win, but win or lose you have 5 years ... BUT if you break any rules, such as NCAA violations, and rules followed by ND, you're out tomorrow". ND no longer follows this ... they've fired coaches like Willingham and Weis before their contracts were up, simply on their W/L performances and complaints from their fans.

 

[Midnighter]

Very true.

Seems like now days some schools are firing their coaches too quickly.

Back in the days when Hesburgh was president at ND, he basically told all of the new coaching hires " You have a 5 year contract ... we want to win, but win or lose you have 5 years ... BUT if you break any rules, such as NCAA violations, and rules followed by ND, you're out tomorrow". ND no longer follows this ... they've fired coaches like Willingham and Weis before their contracts were up, simply on their W/L performances and complaints from their fans.

Absolutley believe coaches should get a full recruiting cycle under their belt before any decisions are made about performance. Five years sounds right.

 

[PSU73]

He caught a break and didn't get fired and it light a fire in him. The next year, his 3rd season and again in his 4th season his team finished #2 in the polls, so he kinda redeemed himself. (4 wins against Pitt too!)
Edit addition:
Just talked with my son, who has degrees from Penn State and Ohio State. He feels that JF is the John Cooper of OSU.

 

[MacNit]

Absolutley believe coaches should get a full recruiting cycle under their belt before any decisions are made about performance. Five years sounds right.

How about 9 years?

 

[Midnighter]

How about 9 years?

And four contracts….

 

[MaddieO]

He caught a break and didn't get fired and it light a fire in him. The next year, his 3rd season and again in his 4th season his team finished #2 in the polls, so he kinda redeemed himself. (4 wins against Pitt too!)
Edit addition:
Just talked with my son, who has degrees from Penn State and Ohio State. He feels that JF is the John Cooper of OSU.

Cooper was far more successful

 

[Nitt1300]

message boards cause no good in any area- sports is the least of the problem

 

[BobPSU92]

message boards cause no good in any area- sports is the least of the problem

Huh? We serve a critical role in society by solving pressing issues and sharing vast knowledge in all areas. You’re welcome.

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

Huh? We serve a critical role in society by solving pressing issues and sharing vast knowledge in all areas. You’re welcome.

Message boards are needed...where else would we get a Midnighter Poll and Nipple thread!

 

[LionJim]

Very true.

Seems like now days some schools are firing their coaches too quickly.

Back in the days when Hesburgh was president at ND, he basically told all of the new coaching hires " You have a 5 year contract ... we want to win, but win or lose you have 5 years ... BUT if you break any rules, such as NCAA violations, and rules followed by ND, you're out tomorrow". ND no longer follows this ... they've fired coaches like Willingham and Weis before their contracts were up, simply on their W/L performances and complaints from their fans.

I’ve always thought this was because Rev. Hesburgh had more power and respect than just about any university president does now. It’s a different world.

 

[leinbacker]

Imagine this scenario: A young college football head coach had a 5-5 record in his first season as head coach and his team did not make a bowl game. It took until his second year for that coach to lead his team to a bowl game.

In his first bowl game and with his team leading 17-0 in the second half, this young coach’s team had a fourth-and-inches from their OWN 15-yard line. You punt right? Your defense is pitching a shutout. Nobody goes for a fourth down from their OWN 15-yard line. That is crazy to even think about trying.

Sure enough, he had his team go for it and they failed to make the first down. The opposing team capitalized on the great field position and scored a quick touchdown. Any momentum that coach’s team had now belonged to their opponent.

The opposing team, now back in the football game, scored another touchdown and added a field goal and the game ended in a 17-17 tie.

Imagine the outcry from that school’s fans, college football fans and football “experts” on football message boards, on Facebook and on Twitter and on national and cable sports news shows for a coach going for it on fourth down from his own 15-yard line when ahead 17-0. The coach would be called an idiot. Fans would be calling for his job. Don’t let him back on the plane to come home! Fire him on the tarmac at the airport! It would be brutal and that is putting it mildly.

It is not the critic who counts...

It is not the critic who counts

Imagine this scenario: A young college football head coach had a 5-5 record in his first season as head coach and his team did not make a bowl game. It took until his second year for that coach to …

johnbaranowski.wordpress.com

imagine if Franklin followed with a 31 game unbeaten streak.

 

[razpsu]

Imagine this scenario: A young college football head coach had a 5-5 record in his first season as head coach and his team did not make a bowl game. It took until his second year for that coach to lead his team to a bowl game.

In his first bowl game and with his team leading 17-0 in the second half, this young coach’s team had a fourth-and-inches from their OWN 15-yard line. You punt right? Your defense is pitching a shutout. Nobody goes for a fourth down from their OWN 15-yard line. That is crazy to even think about trying.

Sure enough, he had his team go for it and they failed to make the first down. The opposing team capitalized on the great field position and scored a quick touchdown. Any momentum that coach’s team had now belonged to their opponent.

The opposing team, now back in the football game, scored another touchdown and added a field goal and the game ended in a 17-17 tie.

Imagine the outcry from that school’s fans, college football fans and football “experts” on football message boards, on Facebook and on Twitter and on national and cable sports news shows for a coach going for it on fourth down from his own 15-yard line when ahead 17-0. The coach would be called an idiot. Fans would be calling for his job. Don’t let him back on the plane to come home! Fire him on the tarmac at the airport! It would be brutal and that is putting it mildly.

It is not the critic who counts...

It is not the critic who counts

Imagine this scenario: A young college football head coach had a 5-5 record in his first season as head coach and his team did not make a bowl game. It took until his second year for that coach to …

johnbaranowski.wordpress.com

This board ain’t nothing compared to comments every where else in social media. Facebook, Twitter, trip advisor, Google, Yelp. Hell the connotation of Yelp is not a positive. So welcome to the new normal!! Also, just fyi. The 60’s are over.

 

[Tom_PSU]

What, how was 60 years ago any different? I was around back then. People have always gotten pissed off (irrationally or not) just about everything. There just wasn’t a venue where phony tuff guys and self proclaimed experts could gain a mass audience. Believe me if it had existed people would have flocked to it.

 

[NittPicker]

The message board sixty years ago would have been full of posts about the Cuban missile crisis, whether or not it was time for Rip Engle to leave, and if it was a good idea to move Beaver Stadium way out to an isolated area on the east side of campus.

 

[PSUriseANDfire]

This post has to be performance art for a comm class.