Why? I would put more faith in the OP.I’m very interested to see where Vegas has our win total.
"Hopefully it'll be like when Dan took over in '09 and we finally played with energy even though we were outmanned often"
Toledo is losing it's entire roster for the most part, we won't lose to them.What we do in the portal will determine if we sniff 6 wins or not. All 4 OOC games are winnable but we could also lose to ASU and Toledo if we do wind up sucking. I think Arkansas is going to be terrible, so I like our chances there. Then it's finding one more win which is doable. I know many folks look at our road slate and say we got screwed but this year I'd rather have those automatic L's on the road so we can potentially get a W at home against a UF, Mizzou or A&M.
I have to try and put what I watched this year out of my head and remind myself we have an entirely new staff. Hopefully it'll be like when Dan took over in '09 and we finally played with energy even though we were outmanned often
We are probably adding 4-5 commits this weekend. Mostly from the portal. But yeah sure “long game”.Right now ASU has added 9 from the portal, so it seems they are following Arizona's plan from this past portal season. They will be better.
Seems like State is playing the long game with the portal while our rivals are playing the "Let's win something now" game.
In Sagarin this year, State is #67. Toledo #66 and ASU #83. We should beat both.Really pointless to do too much predicting before we see how we do in teh portal, but if we at least supplement our OL to where it's a solid G5 G5 quality line or borderline SEC quality line, we should be able to take care of OOC. ASU wnet 3-9 so unless they make major improvement, that should be winnable (certainly not a gimme, but I hope we'll be favored). Toledo did go 11-2, but as far as I can tell the only legit team they played was a 5-7 Illinois team that they lost too. Plus who knows how much they have coming back.
Arkansas has the potential to be terrible, so we potentially have 5 mediocre or worse teams to play.
I think this will be the year the FLorida team either clicks or falls apart. Hard to tell their direction because their schedule was so backloaded. They had a good win against UT early on and they finished up losing 5 in a row, with an awful loss to Arkansas mixed in with four losses to ranked teams. None of the losses to good teams look obviously uncompetitive from the scores but Mizzou was really the only close loss. They also didn't really run away against their weaker competition. They barely got by a 5 win USCe team and lost convincingly to a 7 win UK team. I wish we were getting Florida a little later in the Season. They have 7 winnable games to start the season and then finish vs UGA, @UTex, v. LSU, v. Ole Miss, and @FSU. That could be a brutal five game finish depending on how teams improve or drop off.
After those 6, you have to hope that UT falls off or Missouri falls off. No clue what they have coming back or what their portal prospects look like. I would assume everybody else is just going to out talent us too much on the OL and DL for us to realistically be able to get within upset range with one portal class.
Which I think would be a decent goal this season considering the product we will put on the fieldand we were 5-7 (3-5)
Sign me up for that
I’m pessimistic too. Rebuilds are a hard sell when players can just hop in the portal.Sign me up for that
Not seeing a win against FloridaToledo is losing it's entire roster for the most part, we won't lose to them.
We will beat ASU, they will be improved but we are more talented by a long shot.
We beat UF and Arkansas to get to 6. With an outside shot at beating A&M and Ole Miss.
We will more than likely be 6-6.
With Shapen and Lebby, we are a 6 win team minimum. We need to add a few more pieces, but that's doable. Hopefully we get some of those this weekend in the boat.
Yeah, whoever sees only three wins at any point must be a complete bore.***Man, I bet you are fun at parties!!
I hope the over-under is 3 games. I have to double down on my bet from this year at 6.5. I'm not guaranteeing 4 wins but I'm betting regardless of the number because that is what I do. I know it's stupid but it's how I like to have a little extra fun.Sign me up for that
I’ll take the over of 3 and give you 4 to 1 odds.Sign me up for that
Heck, even I’m taking the over at 3. That ridiculous. I think the over/under will probably be 4.5 or 5.I’ll take the over of 3 and give you 4 to 1 odds.
$100?
I’m not calling 3, I’m calling 4. Arkansas is the only realistic conference win and they have less to rebuild than we do.It will be a struggle, but calling only 3 wins before seeing what we get out of the portal is stupid.
Uh, have you forgotten Arizona?Sure. Which game was an almost loss?