In the next 3-5 years I can see our gamecocks competing for national championships. Shane Beamer gets what it takes to be great. Starting with the family/loving culture and recruiting the most important position on the field.
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hey I’d give my left oyster for that, but dang you making a pretty bold prediction! I like it
Agree and have said the same. Shane is a hard worker, has created a culture and recruits with focus. This class has speed and length and players who want to be here. Key pieces are falling into place! Kids are buying what Shane is selling.
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Great post. He learned from the best. He had a goal to be a FBHC and followed that plan brilliantly.
He's gonna rescue USC from the Mushhead doldrums.
Bowl game was executed brilliantly and the team wanted to win. The last game of last year's season is a harbinger of things to come.
The process of change has started (there was much to overcome) and the bowl game put an exclamation point on what can be accomplished with a team united around the plan our coach is putting in place. Shane is showing current and future players where he's going and asking them to follow him and they are joining the "Shane Train". The process takes time but the train has left the station.
Reno is a key piece to get the 24' train rolling. Bring on the 4 and 5 Starts wanting to catch deep 6's from Reno and/or Lonergan. WE still have to build beef on the interior on both sides. The whole discussion on another thread of Texas recruiting 6'6" 358 lb lineman for OL should tell you where big teams are going. Frank Beamer was beloved at VT and had marginal championship success. There is no doubt Shane learned character, has the charisma factor and that is part of the formula, and creating LOVE bodes well in tough times. Now we need Blue chippers to join the Shane Train
Agree we need those big linemen (big JUCO is one of the them) to go with the speed and length he has and is recruiting in our RBs, DBs and WRs. That is the missing piece so far.
A version of this happens every summer except it's "compete for the SECC next year." Sure, why not!
Just having a plan in the bowl game was an improvement over previous staff and we got execution as well!
While I like your positive thought, I am going to wait for Shane to deliver a Top 10 recruiting class first, before getting my hopes up. Combine Top 10 talent with superior coaching, you can then win all the marbles. While the team with the best talent does not always win, you still need comparable talent. We did not last year, nor this year, thus far, recruited a class within the city limits of the Top 10, much less neighborhood. It looks to me that he is bringing in some good talent, But, so are many other teams around the nation and the SEC. In no way should this post be construed as negative regarding Beamer. We definitely overachieved on the field last season. I'm hopeful regarding Shane's potential.
Shane is off to a great start and I'd like to see him set the world on fire, but we have a long way to go. All the other 15 or 20 schools are not going to be standing still. Love to see us work our way up into the middle of the pack in the next 3-4 years and then maybe we could pull a Dawn Staley.
Why does Rivals underplay our Studs we just signed? Seems like we get small broadcasts of great players joining. in the mean time NC gets a 3 star DB?? huh. they are mad at Mushstump too?
Well, seeing how Rivals Gamecock Poop (aka GamecockScoop) site is so poorly moderated and, thus, trashy, I believe that's indicative that Rivals is not the quality service it used to be.
In 1984 we came within one game from playing for a national title. Just made me curious what our recruiting rankings were back then.
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Just looked at rivals and 247, and neither go back that far.
Thanks for looking, I'm lazy. But I doubt we were in the neighborhood of top 10.
I like your thinking but our best teams in school history didn’t have but one too 10 recruiting class and that class was very overrated. Our 2013 team beat 3 Bcs bowl teams and was a top 4 team in the nation without having a top 10 recruiting class. We need some blue chippers that are difference makers but what really will separate us will be how we develop our 2-3 star players. If we can continue to develop our low rankings and walk ons to be all American or all sec type players the stars won’t mean anything. Our old staff had Jaylen foster for 4 years and in just one season with the new staff he was turned into a all American.
Tennessee. That is the litmus test. If we can't get around them, we cannot achieve the grandiose level projected in the OP.
Curious why Tenn is the litmus test. Why not Kentucky for example? To obtain what the OP is saying we would have to "get around" every team in the conference.
PEDs seemed to even the playing field a bit in those days. Still needed good coaches.
My point was that the ladder has rungs in it. you don't just wake up and there you are at the top of it. Tennessee has more emergent potential than Kentucky but are still behind Georgia if not Florida. That guy up there can coach offense as few others. But no use talking about playing for national championships until you can get around Tennessee. The same would apply to Kentucky, although we should have beaten them at home last year - a bad night on the sideline for Beamer. Tennessee is going to be a tougher nut to crack: better players, better offensive philosophy authored by a cutting-edge coach.
While having more 4* and 5* players isn't a sure bet to win a championship, it sure helps. We can't even finish in the top half of the SEC in recruiting and still aren't competing with Clemson, yet we are going to compete for a national championship? Finishing 8th out of 14 in SEC recruiting, 25th in the national picture, just isn't going to get us there imo. And honestly with the NIL and more big name teams joining the SEC, I don't see where we will even make the top 5 in the SEC, much less the nation. I'm not going as far as some and say you were drinking, but I do wonder what you base it on other than the family environment because I don't see where Shane's recruiting will move us up to a much high finish.
Shane has us on the right track and heading the right direction, but with the move to superconferences, forget about it competing for a title.
Power will become even more concentrated at the top.
Power will become even more concentrated at the top.
That should be an expectation any year. Beating Tennessee is and will be an achievement for is. Even Spurrier lost at least two games to them we had no business losing.
He also lost to a Kentucky team we had no business losing to right after taking down #1 Alabama. Spurrier was always good at losing at least one game a year even at Florida.
This is correct. I would take his record against Kentucky over that against Tennessee, however.
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I would take Holtz's record against them too. Think he only lost to them his 1st year but just going by an increasingly untrustworthy memory.
Yes, however, if we are going to be a serious contender for the national championship in the next 3-5 years, recruiting will need to be stepped up. Right now, we are knocking on the Top 25 door. Steve Spurrier was the best game day coach we ever had, a national Hall of Famer for sure. Many of his recruiting classes tended to fall in the Top 20. Maybe Shane will turn out to be just as good, which is saying a lot. If he is not as good a game day coach as Spurrier, there's no shame in that. Very few have been as good as Spurrier. If not, he is going to have to bring in a Top 10 class or two, or at least knock on the Top 10 door at times, rather than just the Top 25 door. Several years ago, I read that national championship teams, over a period of time, averaged a number 6 recruiting ranking. As I said earlier, I like Shane's potential. I believe he has made some good hires, except for OC Satterfield, and possibly OL coach Adkins and believe he did a good job, overall, in last season's games. I think he just needs to take recruiting to a higher level.
Beamer has a winning record as a HC. And I think this team is already better than the one he had when he got here. Not to mention the culture change. Sustain that and good players will want to come here. Obviously he's made a believer out of me.
What Joe Morrison and Steve Spurrier had in common was a reputation of being very good game day coaches. Recruiting prowess was not what they were lauded for. But Morrison did not really come close to that magical 1984 season, in his last several years here. And, as we all know, Spurrier's last couple of years here were not close to what he did from 2011-13. Good recruiting, I believe, leads to consistency. Is Shane at the coaching level of a Morrison or Spurrier? I don't know. I hope he is.
I'm a fan of his. As I said earlier, I would not interpret my prior comments as being down on him. I'm just saying that if we are indeed going to be serious contenders for the national championship in 3-5 years, I believe he will need to take recruiting to a higher level than it currently is. As many say, it's all about the "Jimmys and the Joes".
I agree, it's going to take awhile but I like the direction of this program so far.
There's absolutely no doubt that Shane overachieved last season. And when you consider that he went into SEC play with an Offensive Coordinator who never produced a Top 50 offense in his prior stint as OC, the coaching job that Shane Beamer did was incredible, to my eyes.
I mean I agree with everything that you said. But considering how many total games we won the last two seasons and the shape of college football right now. If we keep overachieving and developing the talent we get, I believe the top 10 classes can come. The way we’re attracting high school talent and college talent to the school will pay dividends in the future if we keep racking up Ws. Starting this season because the 2024 class has a chance to be top 10
1. We’re top 5-6 in the SEC rankings in recruiting for 2023
2. It’s going to take time for us to get some top 10 recruiting class but we have a chance for 2024.
3. SC has has their best seasons without top 10 recruiting class. We had some great blue chippers but for the most part we developed a lot of our talent. I see this staff doing just that. We just turned a walk on to a All American. We just won 7 games with 4 different QBs starting for us. We have a chance.
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