Inside the commitment: Torricelli Simpkins III

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So, we're losing players to USCw, FSU, Ole Miss, UF and Notre Dame and we're picking up one year players from NCC.

You can't spin this.

Of our 11 transfers in, 6 are from Charlotte, North Carolina Central, Tennessee Tech, SC State, North Texas and Coastal.
 

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This is not spin, but just kind of an eye popping stat. Dude had 81 pancake blocks last year?? That's insane.
 

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Those people who touted Beamer's recruiting abilities..... I remember posting on here that kids did not come to USC because of Beamer. They came to USC to play for the legendary Steve Spurrier.

Trust me when I say that I get NO pleasure in having been right. NONE AT ALL.
 

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Those people who touted Beamer's recruiting abilities..... I remember posting on here that kids did not come to USC because of Beamer. They came to USC to play for the legendary Steve Spurrier.

Trust me when I say that I get NO pleasure in having been right. NONE AT ALL.

Oh, you get a LITTLE pleasure. Just a little.

The guy on the titanic that scoffed at the "unsinkable" comment was gloating for just a second before the implications dawned on him.

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Those people who touted Beamer's recruiting abilities..... I remember posting on here that kids did not come to USC because of Beamer. They came to USC to play for the legendary Steve Spurrier.

Trust me when I say that I get NO pleasure in having been right. NONE AT ALL.
What are you proclaiming to be right on? The assumption that just bc these kids are transferring in from a lower level that they suck? Recruiting prowess is never shown on signing day. It shown in the subsequent years. Also, lets see how we finish.
 

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This is not spin, but just kind of an eye popping stat. Dude had 81 pancake blocks last year?? That's insane.
That is a great stat! My question immediately is what kind of competition was it against, and how well do his abilities transfer to the best football conference in the country? I feel certain he will see mostly if not all bigger, better, stronger, and faster DL in the SEC.
 

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That is a great stat! My question immediately is what kind of competition was it against, and how well do his abilities transfer to the best football conference in the country? I feel certain he will see mostly if not all bigger, better, stronger, and faster DL in the SEC.
Don't disagree, just thought it was gaudy. But hey, he's a biggun that plays nasty and mean. You gotta have OL that you don't have to teach to bite.
 
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What are you proclaiming to be right on? The assumption that just bc these kids are transferring in from a lower level that they suck? Recruiting prowess is never shown on signing day. It shown in the subsequent years. Also, lets see how we finish.
Give it up, Dude. When virtually everyone starts to see the end you need to quit arguing. We all know you love the school, but your arguments are becoming nonsense. We're going 4-8 next year at best. If Beamer is retained, we'll be having the identical convo after players like Stewart bolt.
 
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Give it up, Dude. When virtually everyone starts to see the end you need to quit arguing. We all know you love the school, but your arguments are becoming nonsense. We're going 4-8 next year at best. If Beamer is retained, we'll be having the identical convo after players like Stewart bolt.
No, thanks. I'll keep doing what I do. Appreciate your concern though. I thought you were done anyway? You had given up or something like that.
 

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No, thanks. I'll keep doing what I do. Appreciate your concern though. I thought you were done anyway? You had given up or something like that.
I don't know how old you are but I do admire your eternal optimism. I also don't know what your job is but if it isn't master turd polisher, you missed your calling.

I anxiously await your posts in August laying out how we get to 10 wins and a spot in the 12 team playoff.
 

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I don't know how old you are but I do admire your eternal optimism. I also don't know what your job is but if it isn't master turd polisher, you missed your calling.

I anxiously await your posts in August laying out how we get to 10 wins and a spot in the 12 team playoff.
I'm in my low 40s. I've always been a glass half full kind of guy...especially when it comes to things I can't control. In finance, I have spend the majority of my career polished turds (bad financials) for banks, investors, and ownership groups. So, it's kind of my thing.

I'm sure I won't let you down.
 

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I'm in my low 40s. I've always been a glass half full kind of guy...especially when it comes to things I can't control. In finance, I have spend the majority of my career polished turds (bad financials) for banks, investors, and ownership groups. So, it's kind of my thing.

I'm sure I won't let you down.

After our many interactions on here, I can say wholeheartedly that you are an EXCELLENT polisher of turds! :ROFLMAO:
 

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After our many interactions on here, I can say wholeheartedly that you are an EXCELLENT polisher of turds! :ROFLMAO:
Nbc Brooklyn 99 GIF by Brooklyn Nine-Nine
 

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Grown people fighting over what shade of sucky we are. Lovely.

“If you stop caring, it won’t sting as much.”—Evilchicken
 
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Instead of just saying "this kid is FCS, he sucks", I've tried to find some reports on him. I've listened to a couple of reviews on him, and one word was mentioned a few times...violent. I don't know if that will translate, none of us do. But we've been missing violent OL for a while now.
 

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Don't underestimate the ability of some to try.

Beamer was pushed by some on the basis that he was some super duper recruiter. I think those people were sold a "bill of goods".

So, we're losing players to USCw, FSU, Ole Miss, UF and Notre Dame and we're picking up one year players from NCC.

You can't spin this.
In the face of our NIL ability vs the bigshots listed above, shading Beamer's recruiting prowess is a tad narrow minded.

We are South Carolina, always have been; it is he hand we've been dealt. Stomping a foot, trying to use some business plan as a blueprint, some hot up-and-coming visionary, etc will still not change anything. It takes a Steve Spurrier for brief moments in the sun under normal conditions; when we have to compete against $$, well...
 

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What are you proclaiming to be right on? The assumption that just bc these kids are transferring in from a lower level that they suck? Recruiting prowess is never shown on signing day. It shown in the subsequent years. Also, lets see how we finish.
What I said I was right about was what I said when Beamer's name came up about this job. Players who came to USC when he was Recruiting Coordinator, were coming to USC because of Steve Spurrier, to play for a legend, who had a track record of big success. They were not coming here because of Shane Beamer. I've seen nothing since Beamer has been here to change my opinion. I commented that, based and in response on the post above what 18Isthe Man said regarding where 6 of the transfers are from. Now there's no guarantee that they will automatically "suck". But, honestly, it's not encouraging to me either. And I know I'm not alone with that train of thought. And that's not just what I read here. When I went for my semi-annual medical physical right after Christmas, my General Practitioner said the same thing. And I did not bring up the topic. He was brutally hard on Beamer's recruiting. I honestly have not seen anything from Shane from a recruiting standpoint since he has been here to match what his supporters said he'd bring to the recruiting table. It's true that we don't KNOW how these kids will eventually do here and, we should see how we finish. I am saying "thus far".

All the above comes from someone, ME, who has been on record here stating that Beamer overachieved on the field in each of his first 2 seasons here. So, I am not a constant positive fan nor constant negative fan. I just call them as I see them.
 

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Oh, you get a LITTLE pleasure. Just a little.

The guy on the titanic that scoffed at the "unsinkable" comment was gloating for just a second before the implications dawned on him.

:)
:LOL: The last time you got me laughing was regarding that "hitting below the belt" comment towards "Watson", after he compared me to Mrs Satterfield, if you recall. Saying there are "insults" but being compared to Mrs Satterfield is going too far.:ROFLMAO:
 
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In the face of our NIL ability vs the bigshots listed above, shading Beamer's recruiting prowess is a tad narrow minded.

We are South Carolina, always have been; it is he hand we've been dealt. Stomping a foot, trying to use some business plan as a blueprint, some hot up-and-coming visionary, etc will still not change anything. It takes a Steve Spurrier for brief moments in the sun under normal conditions; when we have to compete against $$, well...
Bottom line is Beamer has to do a better job with his assistants. When you look at Lane Kiffin, he was 40-36 as a HC before going to FAU (inc the Raiders). He had been fired from 2 different places. He ended up at a place (OM) with no better an outlook than we have at USC. But the one thing he's done is have great coaching staffs. He knows he's not going to out recruit Bama, LSU, UGA, etc...So you gotta outcoach them.
 
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Bottom line is Beamer has to do a better job with his assistants. When you look at Lane Kiffin, he was 40-36 as a HC before going to FAU (inc the Raiders). He had been fired from 2 different places. He ended up at a place (OM) with no better an outlook than we have at USC. But the one thing he's done is have great coaching staffs. He knows he's not going to out recruit Bama, LSU, UGA, etc...So you gotta outcoach them.
This is true.
 

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What I said I was right about was what I said when Beamer's name came up about this job. Players who came to USC when he was Recruiting Coordinator, were coming to USC because of Steve Spurrier, to play for a legend, who had a track record of big success. They were not coming here because of Shane Beamer. I've seen nothing since Beamer has been here to change my opinion. I commented that, based and in response on the post above what 18Isthe Man said regarding where 6 of the transfers are from. Now there's no guarantee that they will automatically "suck". But, honestly, it's not encouraging to me either. And I know I'm not alone with that train of thought. And that's not just what I read here. When I went for my semi-annual medical physical right after Christmas, my General Practitioner said the same thing. And I did not bring up the topic. He was brutally hard on Beamer's recruiting. I honestly have not seen anything from Shane from a recruiting standpoint since he has been here to match what his supporters said he'd bring to the recruiting table. It's true that we don't KNOW how these kids will eventually do here and, we should see how we finish. I am saying "thus far".

All the above comes from someone, ME, who has been on record here stating that Beamer overachieved on the field in each of his first 2 seasons here. So, I am not a constant positive fan nor constant negative fan. I just call them as I see them.
I get all of that. HBC had 10 classes here. I believe 3 of them were top 15. So it's not like he was necessarily killing it either.
 
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I get all of that. HBC had 10 classes here. I believe 3 of them were top 15. So it's not like he was necessarily killing it either.
I agree. In fact, even when he was at Florida, fans there griped about his recruiting. Of course, SOS, unlike Dabo, was not known for his recruiting. He was known more for his game day skills. His time at Duke showed he knew more than a thing or two about coaching. I'm hoping that Beamers first 2 seasons here are the norm whereas last season was an aberration. Time will tell.
 

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I agree. In fact, even when he was at Florida, fans there griped about his recruiting. Of course, SOS, unlike Dabo, was not known for his recruiting. He was known more for his game day skills. His time at Duke showed he knew more than a thing or two about coaching. I'm hoping that Beamers first 2 seasons here are the norm whereas last season was an aberration. Time will tell.
Agree. He's shown he can play above expectations. We were simply not deep enough to absorb injuries last year. We lost a lot of players in the coaching change, and his first class was a waste. Just didn't have any depth.
 

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Agree. He's shown he can play above expectations. We were simply not deep enough to absorb injuries last year. We lost a lot of players in the coaching change, and his first class was a waste. Just didn't have any depth.
As Muschamp's players have left, Beamer's results have gone down.
 

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As Muschamp's players have left, Beamer's results have gone down.
Really bad take. Tell me which one of these players had good careers before Beamer took over:
Pickens
Rush
Cam Smith
Edmond
Bell
Vann

Not to mention that the top players on the 22 team mostly came from Beamer: Rattler, Wells, Brooks, Adkins, Debo, DQ, Nick E
 
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In the face of our NIL ability vs the bigshots listed above, shading Beamer's recruiting prowess is a tad narrow minded.

We are South Carolina, always have been; it is he hand we've been dealt. Stomping a foot, trying to use some business plan as a blueprint, some hot up-and-coming visionary, etc will still not change anything. It takes a Steve Spurrier for brief moments in the sun under normal conditions; when we have to compete against $$, well...
If that's true, then we're done.
 

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So please explain how Beamer - after going 5-7 - was able to get a Top 20 recruiting class for next year. I think the transfers are more about NIL - I think we have some work to do there.
 

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So please explain how Beamer - after going 5-7 - was able to get a Top 20 recruiting class for next year. I think the transfers are more about NIL - I think we have some work to do there.

While I respect your opinion and optimism, I fear that you are in for a broken heart, BEEN THERE, DONE THAT!. Class of 72.
 

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South Carolina has never been a recruiting powerhouse. Yes, Jim Carlen, Joe Morrison, Lou Holtz and Steve Spurrier brought in some "blue-chippers". But, for the most part, what success they achieved here was due to their "coaching skills". I believe that will always be the case at South Carolina for whatever success we have on the gridiron. I'm not sure how much of an advantage Missouri, Ole Miss and Tennessee have over us regarding NIL. What I do know is that they have young, proven, successful Head Coaches who have produced Top 10 teams in their careers. If they can do it, tell me why not us?