It's been rumored for months this would be Howland's last season before he retires, but this is the most concrete quote I've seen to date about it. Personally, I'd rather the team, coach, and administration have enough fight in them to try to go deep in the NIT, before he retires.
Interesting, but not terribly surprising, comment by Rosebowl on Facebook
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That might work if he announced his retirement now effective at the end of the season. If he does not and this is essentially a forced retirement then it makes no sense to go to the NIT. You make the break as soon as possible and move on. We tried what you suggest with Stans and wound up with Rick Ray. I know there were other factors but losing those days could also have contributed.
Just depends on locker room culture
A big difference between a guy choosing to retire with happy/supportive players and a scenario where the HC is getting "retired" and the locker room is in disarray and all going to transfer anyhow. No clue what our reality is. Hope it's the former and I would definitely want that team playing in the NIT. In the other scenario, just end it and move on.
A big difference between a guy choosing to retire with happy/supportive players and a scenario where the HC is getting "retired" and the locker room is in disarray and all going to transfer anyhow. No clue what our reality is. Hope it's the former and I would definitely want that team playing in the NIT. In the other scenario, just end it and move on.
I mean, are we out barring an upset of Auburn? I keep hearing people say we can still make it but all I see are losses. Albeit I watch from a distance.
Of course the season is just dragging, still 8 more damn games. I guess the good news is that we have some bad teams on the road coming up, but I so no reason we will win half of them. We haven't all year.
It would just be too good of a story for us to gel down the stretch, beat Auburn, get in the Dance, make a run and send Howland out on a high wouldn't it? So of course this has no shot of happening.
Of course the season is just dragging, still 8 more damn games. I guess the good news is that we have some bad teams on the road coming up, but I so no reason we will win half of them. We haven't all year.
It would just be too good of a story for us to gel down the stretch, beat Auburn, get in the Dance, make a run and send Howland out on a high wouldn't it? So of course this has no shot of happening.
I suspect that considering our track record with hiring coaches that the next coach will possibly be so bad that some will be wishing we had Howland back much like with Stans. For the record, I got into a somewhat spat back and forth with rosebowl last year during football season on FB and i will tell you that he knows it all ***.
We are 2-5 in our last 7 SEC games, stick a fork in us we are done!
We can help some other SEC teams make the tournament though.
We can help some other SEC teams make the tournament though.
We would have to win one of the next 2, beat Auburn at home, and not lose 2 of 3 @Mizzou, @SC, @A&M. That's not happening so why waste the energy even considering that scenario.
With the way this team plays, we probably drop one of the Mizzou or Vandy games at home.
I care if we regress, but I still want to take the chance to get better even if it turns out bad.
Funny story on Rosebowl always being "right". When Mullen was here a friend of mine was very close friends with one of Mullens "guys". Rosebowl was putting out some bad information on something that was going on and the coaching staff wanted it stopped. They asked my friend to message him and set the story straight. Rosebowl insisted that his story was right, my friend said "I know you have good sources, but please trust me that this time mine are better" insinuating who they were. RB basically told him to 17off and kept preaching his version. A few weeks later my friend sent him another message "I tried to tell you".
I tried to tell him that the QB from Tupelo was about to flip to LSU back in the day too. Friend of mine had been standing by him while he was on the phone with Les Miles. He deleted my post and IM'ed me telling me not to spread stuff. Next day, he gone. Wouldn't respond to my messages.
I do think he's gotten better since those days. I mean that was like 13 years ago.
That would cause an “International Incident”. But what does his wife look like, I hear he has had “Loss of Consortium” issues in the past.
I would be pissed at my school and admin if I were a player and it was decided that we don't get to play in the NIT.
17 that, especially if this were my last season.
17 that, especially if this were my last season.
I will ignore your sarcasm and take the post at face value- you are correct. A school declining post-season play so they can get a jump start on hiring a coach would be really 17ing frustrating as a player who just spent the prior 7 months practicing and playing hard to get to the point where my team earned a post-season bid.
Right, and I mean… we can sit here and say that the season’s not over yet, but my gosh. Look at the Hump this past Wednesday guys. The program is dead, and it’s beyond Ws and Ls at this point. There is no heartbeat, and regardless of how the next hire turns out, it’s time to give this era a proper burial, pay our respects, and move on
We have 3, maybe 4 opportunities left for Q1 wins (A&M would be Q1 as of now, but they're borderline). If we get 3 such wins, we likely make it, even if we drop one on the road to SC or Missouri. If we win all of the "should wins" and get 2 Q1 wins, we still might make it. The teams in the 40s in the NET, which is where we'd likely end up in this scenario, are all lacking in Q1 wins, so even though 3/4 doesn't seem like many, it would put is in better position than most of them.
Of course, the problem is that we aren't good enough so none of this will happen.
That’s the MSU way apparently. We get so gloom and doom over a new coach that hasn’t even been hired yet that we deify our existing underachieving coaches.
For some reason, our fans find us incapable of doing the same damn thing that every other SEC program does. In the same time span that Howland has underachieved several teams like Auburn, Bama, Arkansas and Tennessee have fired one or TWO coaches and all have recently made deep runs in the NCAAT. Yet we have a group of fans that are still hesitant to pull the trigger on Howland.
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