I was talking with a juco player today about what four year schools he has talked with (he has another year in juco) so far. From what I have been told, the guy can hit and I do know that he hit third as a freshman on a good team. Anyway, he said he had heard from usm (which is no surprise b/c of the location) and that Lane from State had talked with his grandfather and indicated that they would be watching him. Anyway, the thing that stood out to me from the conversation was that he said that it was common knowledge among baseball players in this region that fall camp at olemiss under bianco is miserable. He didn't elaborate other than to say that they run alot. And by alot, he meant much more than the average program. Take that little bit of info and run with it. That is my contribution for the month. Oh, and yes, I think we have done a good thing in getting Cohen and his two assistants.
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I was talking with a juco player today about what four year schools he has talked with (he has another year in juco) so far. From what I have been told, the guy can hit and I do know that he hit third as a freshman on a good team. Anyway, he said he had heard from usm (which is no surprise b/c of the location) and that Lane from State had talked with his grandfather and indicated that they would be watching him. Anyway, the thing that stood out to me from the conversation was that he said that it was common knowledge among baseball players in this region that fall camp at olemiss under bianco is miserable. He didn't elaborate other than to say that they run alot. And by alot, he meant much more than the average program. Take that little bit of info and run with it. That is my contribution for the month. Oh, and yes, I think we have done a good thing in getting Cohen and his two assistants.
I have heard that Bianco makes them run two miles on the first day.
Not sure if that is up hills, a track, the warning track or what, though.
At least running makes a heck of a lot more sense than not using ice.
Not sure if that is up hills, a track, the warning track or what, though.
At least running makes a heck of a lot more sense than not using ice.
you run kids at baseball camp in the summer? That makes no sense to me. Maybe to see who can gut out a hard work out or to test speed yea. But why would you do it like every day?
Because it's for conditioning in the fall. They really do run a lot. Used to see them running by the square all the time.
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Yea, I lived with a baseball player for a while, and I remember him having to do a decent amount of running in the fall. They did work them pretty hard. Of course, knowing Cohen's personality, I'd doubt his fall camp is a picnic. I'm sure he works his team pretty hard, which is probably a good thing.
and he brought over some of conditioning from his Polk days. He would hype it up with oh stuff like "today's conditioning made this one guy curl up in the fetal position on the field and quit the team". I don't think we ever really got the worst stuff they did but needless to say that season's conditioning sucked a lot more than the other two. At OM I know Bianco has everyone on the team run two miles and they have to make it in like 14 or 15 minutes. Until you make it you can't practice with the team you just have to do extra conditioning. It took Lance Lynn like 8 tries to make it. Poor guy.
On the flip side would a player really choose one school over another based on who had the easier off-season conditioning? And if he would would you want him? Just sayin.
On the flip side would a player really choose one school over another based on who had the easier off-season conditioning? And if he would would you want him? Just sayin.
the guy also said what you say about the two mile run and that you had to keep doing it until you made it in time. I agree that a player should expect to run a good bit, but like I said, this kid talked like it was a ridiculous amount of conditioning. Another thing that he said that really caught my attention (because I've seen it discussed on the nafoom site quite a bit) was that Dan McDonnel was a big part of the rebel's success when he was at olemiss. He was a good recruiter, liked by the players, and a good field coach.
he was a big part of the reason OM was good. But I obviously believe that Bianco was the biggest. Reinstettle has proven to be a very good recruiter, at least based on this past class. We'll miss McDonald but our program won't fall apart because he left. Good coaches have successful coaching trees. Coaches leaving is part of having successful programs.
a two mile run in 14 or 15 minutes, he needs to think about Division 2. I'm 40 years old and can do that routinely. I would think the times by Bianco are more like sub 6 minute miles. 7 minute miles are very attainable. 6 minute miles takes a little work.
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what the hell does it matter if a baseball player can run two miles in 14 or 15 minutes?</p>
that if you can run two miles in 15 minutes, you should have enough stamina to make it through a baseball game.
The other thing about it is, to achieve that you have to practice at it a little bit. So, it kind of forces you to be in shape when fall camp comes around.</p>
The other thing about it is, to achieve that you have to practice at it a little bit. So, it kind of forces you to be in shape when fall camp comes around.</p>
When I was a student I would see Craig Tatum working out in Sanderson all the time. I always wondered if we just didn't have a workout program like football or if he was doing extra work.</p>
Well, as you know Polk is old school, and the old school of thought was that baseball players shouldn't work out because the thought was that it made your muscles tight, and therefore more susceptible to pulls and strains.
We now know better, just like with occasional small ball when you have a team full of Steve Gendron's.
Also, working out would be giving credit to Skip Bertman, and we all know that Polk is humble and always gives credit to others where it is due. .
Anyway, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Polk still felt this way. The problem is our players were on conditioning programs and strict pitch counts and throwing programs from Little League and up, and then they come here and they slack off on conditioning and all of a sudden they have to endure McNickle's weird program, and you end up with a recipe for disaster.
We now know better, just like with occasional small ball when you have a team full of Steve Gendron's.
Also, working out would be giving credit to Skip Bertman, and we all know that Polk is humble and always gives credit to others where it is due. .
Anyway, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Polk still felt this way. The problem is our players were on conditioning programs and strict pitch counts and throwing programs from Little League and up, and then they come here and they slack off on conditioning and all of a sudden they have to endure McNickle's weird program, and you end up with a recipe for disaster.
Yeah from what i have heard while polk was here was that we used to have a pretty good weight program and that Steve Gendron single handily complained so much that they finally dropped it.
I cant imagine having to run to play sports. What are coaches thinking? I can hit the ball just as far fat as i can skinny. </p>
but like I said it sucked *** the year he was there. JJ is a badass though. My favorite MSU player ever.
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