interesting idea- nil players pay their way

Dawgpile

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Leach floated this idea; Either you're a semi-pro employee or you're a student-athlete.

I agree with the sentiment without the expletives.
 
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Leach floated this idea; Either you're a semi-pro employee or you're a student-athlete.

I agree with the sentiment without the expletives.
It is an interesting idea I’ll say maybe a good one. However if we’re the first ones to do it it will be off putting to a lot of players regardless of their NIL money I’m afraid that’s the downside. What do y’all think?
 

Bulldog45

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If I remember correctly back in the old days in MS juco didn’t a certain % of players have to come from the juco’s territory? Maybe on something similar, cap the number of paid players at a certain % of the roster and have the rest be traditional “student athletes”. Doesn’t matter if you pay a guy $1 million or $10k they count the same.
 
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If I remember correctly back in the old days in MS juco didn’t a certain % of players have to come from the juco’s territory? Maybe on something similar, cap the number of paid players at a certain % of the roster and have the rest be traditional “student athletes”. Doesn’t matter if you pay a guy $1 million or $10k they count the same.
I’m not sure about the Juco thing but I think your right as I thought I’ve heard my uncle speak about it or something like it. It would be a good thing to have them pay their way. Just don’t think it would be a good idea at this stage of rebuilding. Maybe in a few years when hopefully we’re a lot more established. Like I said if we were the first to do it it might put some guys off. Which a person could say “screw em then” but honestly we need em. So I don’t know if the time is right. If it would work I’m all for it.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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Y'all just can't keep your grubby hands out of players pockets. The school is not paying one red cent of NIL money. You can prevent a student athlete from getting a scholarship just because he or she is"rich". Until every scholarship receiving person is given some sort of wealth test to determine if they could afford to pay for their education before giving them a scholarship, it is ridiculous to even consider.

The answer is to make the collectives illegal. Do not let boosters from any school create a slush fund to pay players where they are not a valid commercial enterprise.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Y’all don’t get this. You can’t “cap” things like that, not anytime soon anyway, until they become employees and they determine revenue sharing, like the NFL.

Agree with @Bulldog Bruce. At least make them pay under the table. But hey, we are allegedly getting some tax money. Collectives are just straight pay for play. I don’t know why they haven’t fixed this yet, or at least made it more difficult for them to entice players strictly by money. Make them have a real business plan or something.
 

Bulldog45

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That’s why I’m saying cap the number being paid per team vs attempting to cap the dollars. For example, Alabama gets to pay 25 and State gets to pay 25.
 

elvis76

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At minimum, if they are getting paid to play and still getting scholarship money they should have to pay Federal and State
taxes on the "value received" for tuition plus room and board.

Blast away at the idea.

not a "new" member, I was not able to bring my old account over.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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At minimum, if they are getting paid to play and still getting scholarship money they should have to pay Federal and State
taxes on the "value received" for tuition plus room and board.

Blast away at the idea.

not a "new" member, I was not able to bring my old account over.
Legally they are NOT getting paid to play. NIL contracts are not supposed to have any language about location or performance. There should not be anything preventing a kid from taking from a collective and go somewhere else. If that ever gets tested the collective should lose.
 

MagnoliaHunter

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If I remember correctly back in the old days in MS juco didn’t a certain % of players have to come from the juco’s territory? Maybe on something similar, cap the number of paid players at a certain % of the roster and have the rest be traditional “student athletes”. Doesn’t matter if you pay a guy $1 million or $10k they count the same.
And a kid couldn't on scholarship to another juco unless the one whose territory he was in waved his right. I worked with a guy whose kid was in Hinds territory. The coach wouldn't offer him and wouldn't wave his rights so that he could got to one of the two other juco's that were willing to give him a scholarship.
 

aTotal360

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You either fully embrace NIL and treat recruits like mega church pastors, or become irrelevant.

Some think there is a middle ground, but not for a program like ours. Saban and Bama can dictate terms. We cannot.
 
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