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Is Jeff Lebby JoMo 2.0?

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Both are/were considered offensive geniuses that had little (Fordham) head coaching experience. Lot of RPO, which requires too much thinking/decision making for a college QB after snap in my opinion. Maybe Lebby’s is improved/simplified?

Just watched an interview with Lebby. Mannerisms, voice, demeanor, build all eerily similar to JoMo.

He may be awesome, and if we hire him, I’m 100% behind him (just like I was with Arnett even though I had serious reservations), but damn if I’m not extremely nervous if we go that route.
 
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What our offense needs right now is a QB who can see the whole field, throw the ball down field with authority and receivers who force the defense to respect their ability to get separation. It won't do us any good to change the playbook again if those ingredients are missing.
 
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MittRomney said:
Both are/were considered offensive geniuses that had little (Fordham) head coaching experience. Lot of RPO, which requires too much thinking/decision making for a college QB after snap in my opinion. Maybe Lebby’s is improved/simplified?

Just watched an interview with Lebby. Mannerisms, voice, demeanor, build all eerily similar to JoMo.

He may be awesome, and if we hire him, I’m 100% behind him (just like I was with Arnett even though I had serious reservations), but damn if I’m not extremely nervous if we go that route.
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Moorhead had no Power 5 coaching experience at all other than two years as OC at Penn State when he had Sanquon Barkley. Lebby has numerous stops at Power 5 schools and has had a great offense at every stop. I don’t see them as being too similar.
 
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Good points on the SEC experience. I just remember being fired up about JoMo. Innovate power 5 coordinator with head coaching experience. Inherited a stacked roster, thought we were about to take off. Guess I’m extremely cynical now.

Don’t know much about Lebby, so was doing a little digging. Came across the interview and started having JoMo flashbacks. PTSD I guess.
 
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MittRomney said:
Both are/were considered offensive geniuses that had little (Fordham) head coaching experience. Lot of RPO, which requires too much thinking/decision making for a college QB after snap in my opinion. Maybe Lebby’s is improved/simplified?

Just watched an interview with Lebby. Mannerisms, voice, demeanor, build all eerily similar to JoMo.

He may be awesome, and if we hire him, I’m 100% behind him (just like I was with Arnett even though I had serious reservations), but damn if I’m not extremely nervous if we go that route.
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I don’t think the RPOs most teams run are as complex as what Joe tries to do.
 
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woozman said:
For 1 year calling plays in Kiffin’s offense.
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Show me one stop where his offense hasn't been good. I can show you JoMo got demoted and resigned before being fired at a couple places. JoMo was always a fraud.
 
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Any drop off at Ole Miss after he left?
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2019-Total O-#2.....Run O-#19......Pass O-#8.......PPG-#5
2020-Total O-#3....Run O-#26......Pass O-#7.......PPG-#14
2021-Total O-#6.....Run O-#11......Pass O-#22......PPG-#24
2022-Total O-#13....Run O-#10......Pass O-#42.......PPG-#32
2023-Total O-#7....Run O-#42......Pass O-#7.......PPG-#4
 
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MittRomney said:
Both are/were considered offensive geniuses that had little (Fordham) head coaching experience. Lot of RPO, which requires too much thinking/decision making for a college QB after snap in my opinion. Maybe Lebby’s is improved/simplified?

Just watched an interview with Lebby. Mannerisms, voice, demeanor, build all eerily similar to JoMo.

He may be awesome, and if we hire him, I’m 100% behind him (just like I was with Arnett even though I had serious reservations), but damn if I’m not extremely nervous if we go that route.
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It depends did he ask about ring sizes?
 
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It's a scary hire to me. But honestly anyone would be except Chadwell. Hopefully he has a great DC in mind and can pull a good QB. I'm watching Toledo right now but it's not like they ate crushing CM
 
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7Dust said:
2019-Total O-#2.....Run O-#19......Pass O-#8.......PPG-#5

Lebby - 2020-Total O-#3....Run O-#26......Pass O-#7.......PPG-#14

Lebby - 2021-Total O-#6.....Run O-#11......Pass O-#22......PPG-#24

Weis Jr - 2022-Total O-#13....Run O-#10......Pass O-#42.......PPG-#32

Weis Jr - 2023-Total O-#7....Run O-#42......Pass O-#7.......PPG-#4
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I added the OC to the seasons above.

2019 was Rich Rod under Luke, that can’t be right, #5 in scoring?

regardless doesn’t look like they missed him much
 
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MittRomney said:
Good points on the SEC experience. I just remember being fired up about JoMo. Innovate power 5 coordinator with head coaching experience. Inherited a stacked roster, thought we were about to take off. Guess I’m extremely cynical now.

Don’t know much about Lebby, so was doing a little digging. Came across the interview and started having JoMo flashbacks. PTSD I guess.
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Pretty low risk on Lenny’s part, too. If he succeeds, he’ll be gone soon…. If not, he can go be OC somewhere else. We are the ones whose future hangs in the balance.
 
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Here's what I want to hear from whomever we hire: "I like to play [scheme] on offense and [scheme] on defense, but we are going to evaluate our personnel on offense and defense and play to our strengths while we begin to install our systems."
 
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Duggar Hall Desk said:
Here's what I want to hear from whomever we hire: "I like to play [scheme] on offense and [scheme] on defense, but we are going to evaluate our personnel on offense and defense and play to our strengths while we begin to install our systems."
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To be fair, Barbary said exactly that, but didn’t follow through on the promise.
 
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MittRomney said:
Both are/were considered offensive geniuses that had little (Fordham) head coaching experience. Lot of RPO, which requires too much thinking/decision making for a college QB after snap in my opinion. Maybe Lebby’s is improved/simplified?

Just watched an interview with Lebby. Mannerisms, voice, demeanor, build all eerily similar to JoMo.

He may be awesome, and if we hire him, I’m 100% behind him (just like I was with Arnett even though I had serious reservations), but damn if I’m not extremely nervous if we go that route.
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Let that **** go.
 
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TXDawg.sixpack said:
To be fair, Barbary said exactly that, but didn’t follow through on the promise.
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My unsolicited advice to those who hang on every word a coach says. Don’t listen to the press conference and see how effective their schemes are against the blue bloods next year.
 
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Looks like another “smartest guy in the room” hire. I thought we were done with those with Cohenz gone. Just hire a proven coach like Gus.
 
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MittRomney said:
Both are/were considered offensive geniuses that had little (Fordham) head coaching experience. Lot of RPO, which requires too much thinking/decision making for a college QB after snap in my opinion. Maybe Lebby’s is improved/simplified?

Just watched an interview with Lebby. Mannerisms, voice, demeanor, build all eerily similar to JoMo.

He may be awesome, and if we hire him, I’m 100% behind him (just like I was with Arnett even though I had serious reservations), but damn if I’m not extremely nervous if we go that route.
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Nope. JoMo's success at Fordham was damn near guaranteed because Fordham was the only school in their conference that was allowed to offer football scholarships when he took over. They got that exception by agreeing to not be eligible for conference championships or to even participate in the CCG. Fordham had a 2-year head start on this before the rest of the conference moved to football scholarships.

JoMo's teams at Fordham had a stacked deck vs their schedule. Imagine a JC playing a schedule vs HS teams.
 
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I think Moorhead also wasn’t cut out for the south in general. Lebby has been all over the south in multiple leagues, including another SEC school in this very state.
 
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I think Moorhead also wasn’t cut out for the south in general. Lebby has been all over the south in multiple leagues, including another SEC school in this very state.
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Agree with this, but what does Bob from Bogue Chitto say about Lebby?***
 
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MittRomney said:
Both are/were considered offensive geniuses that had little (Fordham) head coaching experience. Lot of RPO, which requires too much thinking/decision making for a college QB after snap in my opinion. Maybe Lebby’s is improved/simplified?

Just watched an interview with Lebby. Mannerisms, voice, demeanor, build all eerily similar to JoMo.

He may be awesome, and if we hire him, I’m 100% behind him (just like I was with Arnett even though I had serious reservations), but damn if I’m not extremely nervous if we go that route.
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Or is he Dan Mullen? Hiring coaches is a complete guess in my opinion.

Oregon hired Georgia’s DC and he has been awesome.
 
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Definitely a complete guess. All of these coaches know X's and O's. It's more of a cultural fit + work life relationship with your coworkers and employees. Most of us have held jobs where things worked out and it was a really good stint. We were productive, things just flowed. And then others where it was a huge cluster. But our technical knowledge in both situations wasn't vastly different...it was simply the variables of the environment. Same deal in the coaching world except their successes and failures are broadcasted unlike the average person.
 
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MittRomney said:
Both are/were considered offensive geniuses that had little (Fordham) head coaching experience. Lot of RPO, which requires too much thinking/decision making for a college QB after snap in my opinion. Maybe Lebby’s is improved/simplified?

Just watched an interview with Lebby. Mannerisms, voice, demeanor, build all eerily similar to JoMo.

He may be awesome, and if we hire him, I’m 100% behind him (just like I was with Arnett even though I had serious reservations), but damn if I’m not extremely nervous if we go that route.
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Over his 4 stops:

Southeastern had the #1 scoring offense
UCF the # 5 offense
Ole Miss, the #8 offense
At OU the #4 offense

Give me that over the 94th ranked offense and the 52nd (both Sumrall years at Troy)
 
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