I keep seeing other Power 5 schools bringing in interior DLs and no mention of PSU. Any scuttlebutt on why PSU doesn't seem to be active for an interior DL?
Is PSU trying to recruit a DL through the portal?
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Either Franklin and Scott are being very selective, or they are just striking out.
Or both.
I wonder if Devon Ellies is taking his extra year even though he walked with the Seniors? Or is the big DL kid from NYC who redshirted this year showing lots of promise? It baffles me how they have yet to get a DL from the portal. To me, that is a high priority need more so than WR.Either Franklin and Scott are being very selective, or they are just striking out.
Or both.
If Ellies returns the DT numbers don't seem that bad to me.
Durant, Beamon, Van den berg, Mulbah, Artis, Ellies, Izzard plus the true freshman Blanding.
Beamon and Durant likely are the 2 deep at 3 tech, although I believe Izzard played 3 tech as well this season.
If Izzard moves to 1 tech replacing Mustipher, he would battle Ellies to start there.
Then Van den bert, Mulbah and Artis would fill out the rest of the depth unless one of them makes a big move this off season to get into the 2 deep. If one of them bulks up and shows promise at 1 tech, then maybe Izzard plays more 3 tech.
Yep, Artis is listed on the roster as a big DT, 6'4" 315lbs, so he may end up being a good option at 1 tech if he is progressing. But the odds are that Izzard and Ellis, both around 300 lbs, form the top 2 big DT's. At least that's the way I see it now, pending any big DT incoming from the portal, or Ellis leaving.
Franklin keeps talking about getting bigger on the DL but then he keeps bringing in 210-230 lb DE's. Some how PSU needs to recruit and field some Countney Brown, Michael Haynes, Tamba Hali, Brad Scioli type DE's. Some were not big by today's standards but were bigger on a relative basis and helped PSU hold up against the run against good running teams and were also pretty good at putting pressure on QB's.
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I sure hope Ellies returns so him and Izzard can play the 1 Tech spots and then work Artis in @ 1 Tech. The others all seem to be 3 Tech DLs.
Me too.
But the staff is high on Van den berg and he may end up having the size to play 1 tech. Mulbah was reportedly a weight room warrier but it seems time for him to get on the field or possibly move on.
Never hurts to bring in big, talented Dlinemen, but if Ellies comes back and Artis is ready to contribute some, PSU still looks to be in decent shape at DT unless there are serious injuries.
Ideally Ellies comes back AND Franklin and Scott add a true 1 tech DT in the portal.
But every discussion on incoming portal players that I read or participate in makes me keep thinking that right now PSU is at 89 scholarship players BEFORE any added from the portal. Something's gotta give.....
Going forward surely Franklin and Scott are putting a priority on bringing in 2-3 big DT's in the 2024 class. Not that they haven't been trying......
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I don't think they have had good luck with getting many 1 tech DTs over JF tenure. not sure if this is priority or whatever. They also have gone smaller at many 3T DTs and DEs. Some of the DE's have been LB size. when LJ was at Penn State he actually got some massive DTs who were 2/3* and developed them into NFL players. Cole Brevard and Caelb Artis are the only two recent 1T DTs, and Brevard is not at Purdue. Golden Israel-Achumba was both OL and DT in HS. he doesn't appear to be in the plan for OL, maybe you give him a shot at DT.
how many scholarships do we have open to offer a player - hs or portal right now?
One scholarship per player.
Only chart I've seen says we are 4 over right now. That was before Scruggs decided to go pro, i believe, so maybe just 3 over.
This one shows 4 over, 89/85, without Scruggs.
Positions that look bloated strictly from a numbers aspect seem to be TE with 8 but counting Barnwell who likely ends up somewhere else, WR with 11 and more to come, OL with 16 and still looking for an OT, and maybe marginally LB with 10 and DB with 16. Somethings gotta give in order to bring in 3 or 4 transfers and an OT.
Unofficial 2024 Penn State Football Scholarship Chart
What does the Penn State football scholarship chart look like heading into next season?
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DL is an area where I think coach Franklin has not received enough credit during his 10 year tenure.
Most of the games lost (especially against) OSU, Michigan, and Michigan State were due to the offense challenges (turnovers or inability to score late). Rarely has the DL been the reason for losses against the top tier programs.
I agree there is plenty of room for improvement and there have been games where the DL did not look good. However, the current situation is not as bleak as some fans believe.
Since Pinegar hasn't officially announced yet, it is actually 90, but he most likely will leave. Still anticipate about 12 to leave from this list with Super seniors, early draft entry, and transfer portals. We'll be fine.This one shows 4 over, 89/85, without Scruggs.
Positions that look bloated strictly from a numbers aspect seem to be TE with 8 but counting Barnwell who likely ends up somewhere else, WR with 11 and more to come, OL with 16 and still looking for an OT, and maybe marginally LB with 10 and DB with 16. Somethings gotta give in order to bring in 3 or 4 transfers and an OT.
Unofficial 2024 Penn State Football Scholarship Chart
What does the Penn State football scholarship chart look like heading into next season?pennstate.rivals.com
Dayton,
What are these 1,2, and 3 tech positions you mentioned.
Thank you, Thomas
I'm only concerned about two Games Michigan and OSU. In both games the PSU D-line was out played. Actually I don't think I ever remember an opponent O-Line absolutely dominate the PSU D-Line as much as Michigan did. A physical beat down. WE need to get bigger (Franklin) and stronger on the Lines. In fact if you look at the last 3 classes PSU has done a great job of recruiting many positions but Interior D-Linemen is not one of them. Is a Franklin thing? Or is Scott a good coach but not a good recruiter. Let's take a closer look.
In the last two recruiting cycles in states that PSU traditionally does very well the numbers are not good.
Here's a list of 2021 and 2022, 4/5 Star Interior D-Linemen, all with PSU offers and J.Scott as either lead or co recruiter.
MD
Goodwine-Alabama
Bradley- Vandy
Evans- JSU
Akingbesote-MD
Moore-Mich
Williams (McDonogh)-BC
VA
Williams-OSU
Givens-VT
NJ
Malone-Ole Miss
Armitage-Stanford
Miles-GT
Thats only 21/22, 11 players, all offered. In 2022 we got Sutton, Artis and Durant.
Obviously D-Linemen do not have enough self esteem to think they are valuable enough to transfer.
I do wonder if Franklin has a deal going with Ricky at ODU to scrape the overflow, now that would be a big dog move.
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Sorry for the late reply. Had to make an emergency trip into Canada. That story @ another time.
As I have been told:
0 Technique DT lines up face to face on the Center
1 Technique DT lines on Center's outside shoulder
3 Technique DT lines up on guards outside shoulder between guard & tackle.
The coaches that frequent this board can talk to the details. It seems that 0 & 1 Technique DTs generally require more girth.
Hope this helps.
of all these fine young lads, only Izzard seems both large enough and hateful enough to settle the score with UM and OSU. We need some violence on the D Line
Thank you Dayton....don't need anymore explanation
I get the picture
I think the body types we are looking for is PJ copies. we need 2-3 on the roster regularly. when we lost PJ last year, or defense took a serious step back. When UGA made UMich look like an FCS school a lot had to do with Jordan Davis and a couple of his mates who dominated the middle. their front 7 owned UMich.
Davis was a 3* out of North Carolina as well. Those plug the middle big NT types are very hit and miss, but they require development. You gotta take a massive kid and get him stronger. Davis seldom played more than 2 plays at UGA without going to the sideline. Part of the equation.
I saw where Ellies announced an NIL deal, so that may be a clue that although he walked with the seniors he’s planning on coming back.
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