Is Sportsmanship / Gamesmanship preached any longer when coaching College athletes, specifically male athletes?
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“Did the Japanese go and sit down and have dinner with Pearl Harbor before they bombed 'em?”
Tough to instill sportsmanship at the college level when it hasn’t been taught down at the beginner level. When I coached baseball with my older son several years ago, I was amazed at the lack of sportsmanship of the other coaches/parents/kids,etc. Kids reflect what they have been taught at an early age.
I remember when I was in Little League (54 years ago) a kid was wearing his hat backwards. The coach yelled at him to turn it around and that you could only wear it like that if you were the catcher.
Also, I had to run laps because as a 9 y/o I had difficulty learning the signals between a suicide bunt and a safety squeeze.
Imagine a coach telling kids to do that today.
Also, I had to run laps because as a 9 y/o I had difficulty learning the signals between a suicide bunt and a safety squeeze.
Imagine a coach telling kids to do that today.
I’m at the foul line during one of my Carl Sandburg JHS basketball games and the ref tells me to tuck in my shirt.
Must not have been a Pennsbury ref or you would have been teched.
Deion Sanders explains why Jackson State's class rules include 'no slides, no wifebeaters'
Coach Prime is challenging his JSU Tigers to be good, respectful program ambassadors
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Deion Sanders explains why Jackson State's class rules include 'no slides, no wifebeaters'
Coach Prime is challenging his JSU Tigers to be good, respectful program ambassadors
If he doesn’t want them to wear “wife-beaters“, I hope he also doesn’t want them to be wife beaters. It’s football, so I probably shouldn’t assume.
Deion Sanders explains why Jackson State's class rules include 'no slides, no wifebeaters'
Coach Prime is challenging his JSU Tigers to be good, respectful program ambassadors
This is an example of how all JSU football players should dress around campus.
Not a good look running down a player on national TV. Lesson should have been taught in private.
He was redirecting a player, getting them to go back and shake hands with the opposing team. That's not exactly something that can be done postgame in the locker room. Some of you will find anything to complain about with Franklin. It was a fantastic look on national TV. It showed that Franklin is about more than just winning football games.
This is an example of how all JSU football players should dress around campus.
That resembles my wardrobe.
Yeah, running 30 plus yards is "redirecting." Guess all of the previous lessons in teaching sportsmanship didn't take too well.
It was such a "fantastic look" that it had to be explained afterwards.
Hmm. I have to wonder if Joe did it, would you say the same? When Joe ran down a ref against Michigan to complain about calls, was that a good look or should it have been done in private? When Joe ran to the student section to wag his finger at the students and chastise them for throwing snow balls at the Michigan players, was that a good look or should it have been done in private? I see nothing wrong with what Franklin did. Good for him. Joe would have done the same thing and been held in a pedestal for it.
I don't see anything wrong with it either. He dealt with it when it happened.
Didn't think it was a great idea for Joe to run after the ref (tearing him a new oneafter the game would have worked better).. Snowballs were a different story as there was potential for someone to get hurt.
Ah yes. Avoid the question/move the goal posts. If Joe did what Franklin did, would you be ok with it?
When the player is half way across the field already and continuing to head to the locker room, what else do you expect? Should Franklin have teleported there? Maybe he should have called the player on his cell after he was in the locker room and told him to come back out? IIRC the announcers figured out pretty quickly what was going on. Either that or he mentioned it in the post game press conference. Either way, who gives a crap if they are too dumb to figure it out in real time on their own, it was a perfectly acceptable thing to do.
Horrible take. You fix the problem then and there if it can be fixed. It could be, and it was.
Kids don't wear their hats backward in baseball nowadays. It's much more frowned upon today than when I was a kid, some 30-40 years ago. There was a time, when I was growing up, when all the "cool kids" would do that ... it's since been squashed.
Catchers don't wear their hats backward anymore, either ... because they use hockey-style masks.
Running as punishment is just dumb because it, oddly enough, portrays running as a punishment. It's not. Laps are stupid (outside of being a warm-up/cool down activity, outside of specific sports), but sprinting is very positive ... why dole it out as a punishment that would attach it to a kid's brain as a negative?
And it likely wouldn't happen that much at that young of an age, because baseball should be all about fun and development then ... and getting in as many game-time swings as possible is much more important than the remote possibility of scoring that one run on a play that rarely works. No one cares about the plastic trophy that Coach Hardo nailed down implementing the suicide squeeze to win his Minors title and fill the void left from his childhood. It's much better to see that 9U coach teaching his kids proper throwing/fielding/hitting form than wasting time on teaching safety squeezes.
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When Joe ran after the ref, didn’t that happen after the game, and for the purpose of tearing him a new one?
Ref, player same difference. Under the same circumstances, any coach running after a player the way Franklin did is not exercising the best judgement.
Ok. Agree to disagree. As others have said, it was an issue that could be dealt with immediately and it was. I have zero issue with it. I have more of an issue with some of the in game calls and personnel decisions than I do with regard to Franklin and discipline and academics. I think he does a fine job in that regard.
Dealt with immediately as in a public display of pique directed a player like "You're not leaving this field until you go back and shake some hands." That begins to wear thin as the target of the lesson grows distant from the age of six.
Again, agree to disagree. Young men can still be corrected of their mistakes and learn from it. It’s happened in college football for decades, usually regarding play, but you can’t ignore bad behavior if in a position to correct it. Ignoring the behavior and condoning it is an example of what has led to our society’s current state.
I don't disagree that Farmer couldn't still learn, and it should have been brought to his attention. Just think it didn't required the public histrionics.
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