Is this pass complete or incomplete?
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Are high school rules different than college or pro?
That would 100% be incomplete in college. It wouldn't even be reviewed. You have to look at it in ultra-slow motion in order for it look like the ball doesn't just immediately bounce out of his hands.
Upon review I believe it is incomplete. Therefore, the pass is complete. I NEVER get the replays right.
Initially called it incomplete but conferred and reversed the call.
Doesn’t look anything close to a complete pass to me. In college, this would be ruled incomplete without batting an eyelash and nobody on either side would complain .
This is one of those judgement calls where, based on the rules (assuming this high school league has the same or similar rules to college and the pros), a reasonable element of time has to pass in order for the catch to be completed. Yes, he had control briefly, but in real time I have a hard time saying it was fully completed before the ball was knocked loose. The other interesting part is that he was down on a knee. Is the play dead and he deemed to have control as soon as it’s controlled because he is down? Or would time also play a factor in that?
I say complete. But I wouldn't argue if it was called incomplete. They weren't watching in slo mo.
I guess high school ball is just different. I don't watch it much.
This would never be called a complete pass in college, and nobody would even bat an eye about it.
Besides, he never had firm control of the ball. There was never a point when it wasn't moving.
This would never be called a complete pass in college, and nobody would even bat an eye about it.
Besides, he never had firm control of the ball. There was never a point when it wasn't moving.
It wasn't incomplete when Florida beat Tennessee on a play just like that when Spurrier and Fulmer were coaching. In fact, I don't think the Florida receiver had the ball as long as on this play. All you have to do in the end zone is control it for an instant.
lol, I don't think finding one play from a game 23 years ago disproves the point. Besides, it's since then that they have added the language about maintaining control and making a football move and all that.
I saw the ball getting knocked out. Not lack of control.
Objectively, if that was us and Clemson, with Clemson being credited with a catch on that play to win the game, would you feel any different?
its like when a player catches the ball and gets hit and loses it...if he didnt take 2 steps with it its not a fumble...so the ruling is he didnt possess it long enough for it to be a fumble even tho he caught it....nowadays in the nfl you have to make a "football move" before possession is established
My point was that THIS player controlled it marginally better than THAT player. You don't have to hold it for long in the end zone, even if you are running it in.
This would clearly not be a catch in college football per the current rules, notably Article 3, subsection a, 3.
rulebook.github.io
In almost every college game you see, potential catches are ruled incomplete because a defender knocks the ball out. Maintaining control is the issue.
SECTION 4. Catch, Recovery, Possession :: NCAA Football Rules Online
rulebook.github.io
In almost every college game you see, potential catches are ruled incomplete because a defender knocks the ball out. Maintaining control is the issue.
Had control on the ground in the end zone, even if only for seconds, it's a TD.This would clearly not be a catch in college football per the current rules, notably Article 3, subsection a, 3.
SECTION 4. Catch, Recovery, Possession :: NCAA Football Rules Online
In almost every college game you see, potential catches are ruled incomplete because a defender knocks the ball out. Maintaining control is the issue.
It's unquestionable. Why should anyone argue over what is obvious?
There you go.Looks incomplete to me in real time, and complete in the slow motion replay.
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May be time to get that vision prescription updated my friend...