From beating top 10 teams in back to back games, including Clemson to losing our top offensive players to the portal and, against all odds, downgrading at OC. What a time to be alive!
It’s been a whirlwind of a few weeks!
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No way we downgraded at OC.
At the least, it’s an emotional downgrade. On paper, at the very, very very best, it’s a lateral move. And that’s really a downgrade. If you’re not moving forward to moving backwards.
Beamer's choice. He's going to live by the sword or die by the sword!
The problem with the hire is it isn’t a splashy name. I know his track record as an OC in the NFL wasn’t good, but it is a different game.
I know nothing about the guy to make a quality assessment of the hire. It was reported that he was offered the job right after Bobo left and turned it down. There is something to him that Beamer must like.
I know nothing about the guy to make a quality assessment of the hire. It was reported that he was offered the job right after Bobo left and turned it down. There is something to him that Beamer must like.
More like the whirlpool of positivity being flushed down the bowl. I could not even name who is starting in the Gator Bowl. It is almost like the universe can't let South Carolina fans enjoy our last 2 wins.
For being the hottest team to end the season, it’s been a rough couple of weeks. Wr need something good to happen. Soon.
We stepped on our own cock.
If we had been able to keep Satterfield, we would at least still have some of that momentum. I think some players still leave, but I bet some players in the portal would look at those last 2 games and be willing to give us a chance. We got a ton of positive press in those last 2 weeks, and a lot of it was because of the offense.
Now, we are dealing with an almost complete unknown, and what we do know isn't exactly glowing. Nobody can look at the situation and declare where we were then to where we are now and consider that any kind of lateral move. More like, WTF happened there.
If we had been able to keep Satterfield, we would at least still have some of that momentum. I think some players still leave, but I bet some players in the portal would look at those last 2 games and be willing to give us a chance. We got a ton of positive press in those last 2 weeks, and a lot of it was because of the offense.
Now, we are dealing with an almost complete unknown, and what we do know isn't exactly glowing. Nobody can look at the situation and declare where we were then to where we are now and consider that any kind of lateral move. More like, WTF happened there.
Has anything good happened since we beat Clemson? That’s the last good thing I can think of. How ironic coming off of those 2 huge W’s.
If Satterfield were still here the same crap would have happened (NIL related "me attitudes") and we would KNOW we have a lousy OC.
Would be very difficult for Loggains to be any worse, so I'm looking on the bright side.
No, we would KNOW that we have an OC that was inconsistent but does have the potential to deliver a game like what we saw against Tennessee and Clemson this year. That's not unusual for a team like us to have that, especially 2 years out from a disaster. In fact, inconsistency has been more the rule for us, not the exception.
This guy's resume makes Satterfield look like Sean McVay. I'm pulling for this guy, but don't think for a second it couldn't be worse. I've shown you the numbers, and it can and has been worse here many times. You're not just looking on the bright side, you are staring directly into the f'ing sun with binoculars.
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I would say the one positive in the last few weeks is that we unloaded Satterfield. I honestly don't think it could get much worse.
We know players were discussing leaving if he stayed, so it's impossible to know if the defections would have been worse or better.
That is surprisingly pessimistic. What happened to trusting in Beamer?
I trust Beamer. I trust that he went and got the best he could get, and this was probably it. I told everyone that we wouldn't be able to get the big name, splash hire that people seem to think we could get, and that's exactly what happened. Not Beamer's fault.
I specifically said we didn't need splash, or a name. Just a guy who ran an aggressive offense, even if it was from a lower level.
I refuse to believe a G5 OC wouldn't want to make a leap to the SEC. That alone gets us recruits, it should get us some leeway in coaches too.
If I had to guess, Beamer was enamored with the professional experience of this guy, and places an larger emphasis on that over statistical success. If that's the case, I'm not sure i would agree, but we'll see.
Edit: I've also wondered if there's monetary restrictions too.
It absolutely can be worse. In fact, it was worse in:
2004
2005
2007
2008
2009
2011
2012
2015
2016
2017
2019
2020
12 of the last 17 years listed on ESPN were worse in yards per game. So, yes, it could and has been worst. Not just some of the time. MOST of the time.
They would look at the SEC, but most think they can do better than us. South Carolina is a tough sell for offense. Most want a better situation because many want to move on to be head coaches and make big bucks. More history of success. More NIL resources. School like us are more likely to catch a retread looking for redemption than a up-and-coming name.
I just picked the first year, 2004, we had less yards but were ranked 63rd. This year we had more yards but were ranked 75th. So less yards, but better compared to other teams. This just speaks to offenses evolving and the college game moving more towards offense over the years.
Do you want to know how many years were worse than his 2021 year?
But I'll concede your point. It's hard, but we could have years even worse offensively than Satterfield's. Not by much, but it's possible.
That would make sense if comparable SEC schools also had trouble hiring OC's. Like Kentucky, or even Arkansas. (Some people want him gone, but he was an experienced OC who was up and coming when they hired him. )
I just don't share your doom and gloom outlook on our program, I guess.
I also believe Connor Shaw's opinion is worth more than all the naysayers that have no idea of his abilities
Man, people looovvveeee to armchair quarterback. This will all work out! Watch Shane beat expectations again next year.