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Xenomorph

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...I question my life's path. But then Yancy Porter always does something that makes me feel I'm justified in finding it so interesting.

A short while ago Clayton Moore of Louisville was finally offered by and committed to Ole Miss. Today Porter has officially ranked him ahead of both Chris Garrett and Tyler Russell.
 

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...I question my life's path. But then Yancy Porter always does something that makes me feel I'm justified in finding it so interesting.

A short while ago Clayton Moore of Louisville was finally offered by and committed to Ole Miss. Today Porter has officially ranked him ahead of both Chris Garrett and Tyler Russell.
 

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like 5 South Panola players on it.

3 of which may or may not even be real people.
 

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You're doing more than I am. I haven't even looked at any of his Top 40 articles. Granted, I will say that Yancy has as much of a chance of being right about his evaluations as any of the other scout or rivals evaluators. Meaning, I don't give any credence to anything any of them say. It's all a load of BS and guessing.

I'm sure he's just doing the same thing Gene and Steve do though, just trying to appease his sheep.
 

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somewhat have an idea of where the line of ridiculousness is...Yancy doesn't.

Rose has Garrett as the no. 1 QB in the state along with the being the no. 2 prospect in the state.
 

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8Dog said:
somewhat have an idea of where the line of ridiculousness is...Yancy doesn't.

Rose has Garrett as the no. 1 QB in the state along with the being the no. 2 prospect in the state.

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And again, what makes their opinions any better than other scout members who don't coach football? I personally trust the opinion of coaches over the opinion of scout directors. Coaches have their jobs depending on how well they evaluate players. Yancy, Gene, etc. can say whatever the hell they want, and they don't get fired for being wrong.

I'll agree that Yancy doesn't have a good grasp of where the line is, but I'd argue that Gene and Rose aren't that far behind him when it comes to being ridiculous.

Basically, I think the bigger idiots are the ones that listen to Yancy, Gene, Rosebowl, or any other of these guys and put any weight into what they say or believe.
 

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in my head- wouldn't it be wise of the recruiting webmasters to hire some ex-HS coach(es) to evaluate these players?

It's not foolproof, but it's probably a more informed opinion than, say a CPA.</p>
 

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Russell has two reported offers state and bama. Garrett has more but one of them is LSU. Moore has a dozen or so. If you wanna go by offers it def Moore or Garrett. He did rank them 10, 9, and 8 so its not like he' saying Moore is clearly better than the other two.</p>
 

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DiamondReb said:
Russell has two reported offers state and bama. Garrett has more but one of them is LSU. Moore has a dozen or so. If you wanna go by offers it def Moore
or Garrett. He did rank them 10, 9, and 8 so its not like he' saying Moore is clearly better than the other two.</p>

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I think too many people worry way too much about this **** anyway. It doesn't matter if Yancy ranks Moore No. 1 in the state and doesn't even rank Russell or Garrett. It will have no effect on what type of player any of them will be. What does it matter what he says? And again, his guess is as good as any uneducated POS that thinks he's qualified to rate HS prospects.
 

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Garrett and Russell committed really early. Garrett was getting more early offers than anyone. The longer you stay in without committing, the more offers you get.
 

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so that the fark does it really matter?
 

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The websites keep everyone entertained about the incoming class even if their rankings are complete BS
 

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...the ones doing all the evaluating were high school coaches.

And to add to what 8 said, not only do Gene and Rose have an idea where the ridiculous line is, they at least make an effort to put their eyes on recruits first hand. I've never heard Yancy mention attending a high school game or watching film.0
 

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I personally trust the opinion of coaches over the opinion of scout directors. Coaches have their jobs depending on how well they evaluate players.

I agree. The hard part is you will not be able to get a true opinion on these three guys from Croom, Nutt and Miles. Each is going to say their guy is the best.
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And this is based upon?

I don't know about Ole Miss, but if Russell signs, he's my bet to be the QB in 2011.
 

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is where yancy had their guy ranked prior to his committment... or how yancy's rank commpared to other sites... yancy may have known garrett and russell had no intentions of going to ole miss and always had the other guy on top knowing he was their only qb hope for miss...

early commits don't get as many offers so their stars are limited sometimes... laugh at the rankings all you want but top teams usually have top rated classes.. even though some of their 4 star athletes never live up to their billing, many of them do.. the power houses get more of them and the law of averages do pan out for the big boy programs
 

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He's the new Ole Miss Rivals reporter. Once upon a time he was hated by the Ole Miss sheep because he liked to tell the truth in print and on the radio in Mobile. He's even on the Top 10 NAFOOM list.

McCready has even made the Rivals message board creeps mad by not being a good Rebel.

A strain of objectivity by a Rivals writer might actually force the Scout lackies at both sites to take a look at how dumb they really are. Then again, they are dumb and might not know it.



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has Garrett and Russell ahead of Moore.

My question is: if Moore is so great, why did Ole Miss wait so long to offer him? I just find it very strange that he seems to had no offers from anyone nearby until ole miss finally offered. It appears he was behind Russell and Garrett on Croom's list, behind Russell on Saban's board, and behind Garrett on Miles' board.
 

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8Dog said:
has Garrett and Russell ahead of Moore.

My question is: if Moore is so great, why did Ole Miss wait so long to offer him? I just find it very strange that he seems to had no offers from anyone nearby
until ole miss finally offered. It appears he was behind Russell and Garrett on Croom's list, behind Russell on Saban's board, and behind Garrett on
Miles' board.

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Which is a good point, but I still don't see why it matters. Yancy is going to tout his guy, because he's preaching to his homers. He even went so far the other day as to post a list of what he claims a "source"/assistant coach told him were their top 10 players in the State. They had Moore, Russell, and Garrett in the same order he had them on his Top 40 list.

If you ask me, I wouldn't be shocked if he was making that up as well, but again it really doesn't matter. As far as evaluations, offers, rankings, etc. there isn't a whole lot of difference between any of the 3 in state QBs. It's anyone's guess as to which ones are actually going to be better on the next level. I won't go as far as OP, but I definitely wouldn't be shocked if only one of them ends up starting for the team they sign with. And even then, the ones that do start may end up sucking.

For that matter, most of your recruiting geeks thought Riddell was going to supplant Henig and be your QB this past fall. No one was really even discussing Carroll. All you can do is hope that your team signs enough QBs with tools to be successful, and then hope one of them pans out. I'd say that Garrett, Moore, and Russell all have the tools, so to me it's just a shot in the dark as to which one will pan out as the best.
 

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"Yancy is going to tout his guy, because he's preaching to his homers."

and that's the point.
 

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<span style="font-style: italic;">As far as evaluations, offers, rankings, etc. there isn't a whole lot of difference between any of the 3 in state QBs.</span>

Uhh....yes there is, arm strength.

Russell, if nothing else, has that over the other 2.
 

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RebelBruiser said:
Which is a good point, but I still don't see why it matters.
Nobody said it matters. Xenomorph thought it was funny. If he had gotten on here and said, "This kind of **** pisses me off..." then your whole thing about it not mattering would apply, but he didn't so it doesn't.

If it matters so little to you then why is it that anytime someone bashes Yancy, you are one of the first people to respond and you always say, "Yeah Yancy sucks, but Gene is just as bad." Bashing Yancy doesn't mean that whoever posted it is praising Gene; they're just bashing Yancy. So why do you always feel the need to bring Gene into it?

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and Garrett has the upside.

I don't see that much difference, as a whole, between any of them.

How they are developed by their college coaches will tell the tale. None would start at any SEC from day one as a freshman.
 

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...because Moore has a very, very ****** attitude.
 

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I've heard that,too.
 

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DowntownDawg said:
...because Moore has a very, very ****** attitude.

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Also another unmeasurable that affects who will do the best. As much as I loathe recruiting rankings, I loathe them most for QBs. QB is probably the worst position to try to project at the next level. That even goes for projecting NFL success based on college success. You'd think that the best college QBs would translate well to the pros, but they can't even project QB success well.

As I said before, I just hope we sign one or two every year that appears to have enough physical tools to potentially translate at the D-1 level. We signed two last year. One opted to go pro for baseball. I'm hoping we'll sign two guys with the tools this year.
 
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