It's pretty obvious now that Danny Shorts just jumps at whatever offer is in front of him......

[OG Goat Holder]

.....that he perceives as better. I thought to myself that maybe he sees potential in UNLV, because surely....SURELY....some other P4 team had talked to him the past two years? I think the answer to that is....they did not. UNLV is the first program to show interest in him. Him going out there really makes no sense as far as fit, but of course, he never really thought that much about that anyway because he wasn't a fit anywhere he's been except MSU.

Rewind back to when he was here. Had a program that he truly saw as better than us come calling, he most assuredly leaves. There was no loyalty there. He was a mercenary at best. Out of all the schools that he supposedly flirted with, none of them were a perceived better job. And if Florida hadn't teabagged Tennessee, he was headed there. Bottom line, we got lucky for 8.5 years, if you can call it that. Those flirtations constantly cost us with in-state recruits.

I still remember thinking he was going to Florida after 2009 once Urban's chest pains came up. And then thinking that he actually liked Starkville after 2010 when he didn't go to Florida. Pretty clear now that Florida simply did not want him until Loaferz pulled his 'coup'.

Another reason why we should target the upper 50s/early 60s guys who are at their last stop, if we want to be able to count on consistency. The fact that we got lucky with Mullen, shows that the young coordinator route is not one we want to commit to over the long term. In the modern era, we're batting .333 there (Danny, Slophead and Lenny), and batting 1.000 with older guys (Jackie and Leach). And .000 with the crooter types (Rocky and Croominator).

 

[onewoof]

It is like Jim Carrey recently was quoted as saying. "Quite frankly I am out of money."

Guessing the lifestyles require significant income to keep at the level they are at.

 

[HumpDawgy]

Well, we will finally see if Mullen's recruiting style will work in this NIL landscape. We all know that he can develop talent.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Well, we will finally see if Mullen's recruiting style will work in this NIL landscape. We all know that he can develop talent.

If they will hang around long enough. It's a new day.

 

[The Peeper]

It is like Jim Carrey recently was quoted as saying. "Quite frankly I am out of money."

Guessing the lifestyles require significant income to keep at the level they are at.

Not sure what you consider "significant" but when he left Flarda:

"Mullen's $12 million buyout will be spread over seven installments, with a $6 million payout coming within 30 days. Mullen will then get $1 million every July 15 through 2027"

 

[MSUDC11-2.0]

Apparently Mullen is close with a Las Vegas Bowl executive who is a UNLV alum that was a big part of making this happen.

 

[8dog]

.....that he perceives as better. I thought to myself that maybe he sees potential in UNLV, because surely....SURELY....some other P4 team had talked to him the past two years? I think the answer to that is....they did not. UNLV is the first program to show interest in him. Him going out there really makes no sense as far as fit, but of course, he never really thought that much about that anyway because he wasn't a fit anywhere he's been except MSU.

Rewind back to when he was here. Had a program that he truly saw as better than us come calling, he most assuredly leaves. There was no loyalty there. He was a mercenary at best. Out of all the schools that he supposedly flirted with, none of them were a perceived better job. And if Florida hadn't teabagged Tennessee, he was headed there. Bottom line, we got lucky for 8.5 years, if you can call it that. Those flirtations constantly cost us with in-state recruits.

I still remember thinking he was going to Florida after 2009 once Urban's chest pains came up. And then thinking that he actually liked Starkville after 2010 when he didn't go to Florida. Pretty clear now that Florida simply did not want him until Loaferz pulled his 'coup'.

Another reason why we should target the upper 50s/early 60s guys who are at their last stop, if we want to be able to count on consistency. The fact that we got lucky with Mullen, shows that the young coordinator route is not one we want to commit to over the long term. In the modern era, we're batting .333 there (Danny, Slophead and Lenny), and batting 1.000 with older guys (Jackie and Leach). And .000 with the crooter types (Rocky and Croominator).

He hasn’t coached in 3 years. I’d imagine he has had a lot of offers.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

He hasn’t coached in 3 years. I’d imagine he has had a lot of offers.

So why do you choose Vegas? Guy has a family, money and a good spot on the lake. Doesn't make sense.

Apparently Mullen is close with a Las Vegas Bowl executive who is a UNLV alum that was a big part of making this happen.

And again....that screams to me 'connections', over a coach in demand.

And then thinking back to his interview with Bo when he said if the opportunity ever came up at MSU, he'd listen. That screams no options.

 

[8dog]

So why do you choose Vegas? Guy has a family, money and a good spot on the lake. Doesn't make sense.

I don’t know anything about his decision making. I just know that a guy with his track record who sits out 3 years doesnt just jump at anything.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I don’t know anything about his decision making. I just know that a guy with his track record who sits out 3 years doesnt just jump at anything.

I disagree. Couple other good coaches who got caught up in weirdness - Leach, ended up at Washington State after his absence, and Petrino, had to go to Western Kentucky.

 

[8dog]

I disagree. Couple other good coaches who got caught up in weirdness - Leach, ended up at Washington State after his absence, and Petrino, had to go to Western Kentucky.

I don’t know what those two examples have to do with this. I’m sure plenty of schools have approached Mullen. But yes, a lot of people do take jobs they view as better.

But I’d look at UNLV bc it’s probably a Cush gig with a decently easy playoff path.

 

[dorndawg]

This might be a bit of a leap, but I could see UNLV trying to make a push to get into whatever the Big League is when they do the new tv deal. Not because UNLV has any kind of football pedigree, but because they are in Las Vegas. With the current trend of CFB (and society at large) of style over substance, it really is the perfect place.

Mullens at first doesn't seem like a good fit, but a) people have heard of him which gives UNLV something of an imprimatur of being a Serious Football School 2) he's probably the biggest name they could get, and c) he'd probably go along with whatever nonsense the money people have planned in order to make this jump happen.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Mullens at first doesn't seem like a good fit, but a) people have heard of him which gives UNLV something of an imprimatur of being a Serious Football School

This word appearing on SPS was not on my bingo card this week.

 

[dorndawg]

This word appearing on SPS was not on my bingo card this week.

I'd play SPS bingo.

 

[Drebin]

.....that he perceives as better. I thought to myself that maybe he sees potential in UNLV, because surely....SURELY....some other P4 team had talked to him the past two years? I think the answer to that is....they did not. UNLV is the first program to show interest in him. Him going out there really makes no sense as far as fit, but of course, he never really thought that much about that anyway because he wasn't a fit anywhere he's been except MSU.

Rewind back to when he was here. Had a program that he truly saw as better than us come calling, he most assuredly leaves. There was no loyalty there. He was a mercenary at best. Out of all the schools that he supposedly flirted with, none of them were a perceived better job. And if Florida hadn't teabagged Tennessee, he was headed there. Bottom line, we got lucky for 8.5 years, if you can call it that. Those flirtations constantly cost us with in-state recruits.

I still remember thinking he was going to Florida after 2009 once Urban's chest pains came up. And then thinking that he actually liked Starkville after 2010 when he didn't go to Florida. Pretty clear now that Florida simply did not want him until Loaferz pulled his 'coup'.

Another reason why we should target the upper 50s/early 60s guys who are at their last stop, if we want to be able to count on consistency. The fact that we got lucky with Mullen, shows that the young coordinator route is not one we want to commit to over the long term. In the modern era, we're batting .333 there (Danny, Slophead and Lenny), and batting 1.000 with older guys (Jackie and Leach). And .000 with the crooter types (Rocky and Croominator).

Don't overthink it. Vegas has several Targets.

 

[Howiefeltersnstch]

Let's not forget the TV gig was a decent income added to his buyout. At least high 6 figures ? Not like he was sitting around the house in his jammies

 

[OopsICroomedmypants]

Mullen will be in the playoffs soon. They will have a huge NIL budget and I figure the first couple of years he can throw some games so Vegas can reinvest in the program with the winnings. I'll be interested in watching them.

 

[CDawg08]

Mullen most likely has one foot out the door already. UNLV will be stepping stone number 2 ala Mississippi State. He is what he is. We will never know what might have been here if he’d been fully committed to the school that gave him the chance and made him a millionaire while he spent the vast majority of all off seasons actively job searching.

 

[MSUDC11-2.0]

So why do you choose Vegas? Guy has a family, money and a good spot on the lake. Doesn't make sense.


And again....that screams to me 'connections', over a coach in demand.

And then thinking back to his interview with Bo when he said if the opportunity ever came up at MSU, he'd listen. That screams no options.

I mean you’re talking about a guy who has been out of coaching for 3 years, got fired from his last job, and has a reputation of not being easy to work with. The fact that he had to take a clear step down to rebuild himself probably shouldn’t shock anyone.

Did I think his first reappearance would be in the G5? No I don’t think so. I figured someone in the lower tier of the P4 would be more likely. But UNLV arguably has a greater path to the playoff than a bunch of power conference schools given the current format. They’d have made it this year if they beat Boise last weekend.

 

[Scottfield1]

.....that he perceives as better. I thought to myself that maybe he sees potential in UNLV, because surely....SURELY....some other P4 team had talked to him the past two years? I think the answer to that is....they did not. UNLV is the first program to show interest in him. Him going out there really makes no sense as far as fit, but of course, he never really thought that much about that anyway because he wasn't a fit anywhere he's been except MSU.

Rewind back to when he was here. Had a program that he truly saw as better than us come calling, he most assuredly leaves. There was no loyalty there. He was a mercenary at best. Out of all the schools that he supposedly flirted with, none of them were a perceived better job. And if Florida hadn't teabagged Tennessee, he was headed there. Bottom line, we got lucky for 8.5 years, if you can call it that. Those flirtations constantly cost us with in-state recruits.

I still remember thinking he was going to Florida after 2009 once Urban's chest pains came up. And then thinking that he actually liked Starkville after 2010 when he didn't go to Florida. Pretty clear now that Florida simply did not want him until Loaferz pulled his 'coup'.

Another reason why we should target the upper 50s/early 60s guys who are at their last stop, if we want to be able to count on consistency. The fact that we got lucky with Mullen, shows that the young coordinator route is not one we want to commit to over the long term. In the modern era, we're batting .333 there (Danny, Slophead and Lenny), and batting 1.000 with older guys (Jackie and Leach). And .000 with the crooter types (Rocky and Croominator).

.....that he perceives as better. I thought to myself that maybe he sees potential in UNLV, because surely....SURELY....some other P4 team had talked to him the past two years? I think the answer to that is....they did not. UNLV is the first program to show interest in him. Him going out there really makes no sense as far as fit, but of course, he never really thought that much about that anyway because he wasn't a fit anywhere he's been except MSU.

Rewind back to when he was here. Had a program that he truly saw as better than us come calling, he most assuredly leaves. There was no loyalty there. He was a mercenary at best. Out of all the schools that he supposedly flirted with, none of them were a perceived better job. And if Florida hadn't teabagged Tennessee, he was headed there. Bottom line, we got lucky for 8.5 years, if you can call it that. Those flirtations constantly cost us with in-state recruits.

I still remember thinking he was going to Florida after 2009 once Urban's chest pains came up. And then thinking that he actually liked Starkville after 2010 when he didn't go to Florida. Pretty clear now that Florida simply did not want him until Loaferz pulled his 'coup'.

Another reason why we should target the upper 50s/early 60s guys who are at their last stop, if we want to be able to count on consistency. The fact that we got lucky with Mullen, shows that the young coordinator route is not one we want to commit to over the long term. In the modern era, we're batting .333 there (Danny, Slophead and Lenny), and batting 1.000 with older guys (Jackie and Leach). And .000 with the crooter types (Rocky and Croominator).

You are such a 17ing troll throwing out numbers that are absolutely incorrect. Mullen/Moorehead/Leach won more than 60% of their games combined. Croom had no chance of success once hired after severe NCAA sanctions placed on State during his tenure. Lebby faces a similar feat considering what transpired the previous 12 months; however, pieces of ****, such as yourself and others on this board experience short term amnesia of the past.

 

[leeinator]

Apparently Mullen is close with a Las Vegas Bowl executive who is a UNLV alum that was a big part of making this happen.

This ^^^^ and Las Vegas fits with his lifestyle. Megan loves it as well. Lots of Target locations.