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Seeing that info shared on Twitter by some folks, but not being reported by anyone reputable yet.

Would be an odd move. He was TE coach at A&M. Not sure what his role would be here, but it doesn't seem to fill a critical need.
 

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Seeing that info shared on Twitter by some folks, but not being reported by anyone reputable yet.

Would be an odd move. He was TE coach at A&M. Not sure what his role would be here, but it doesn't seem to fill a critical need.
247 is reporting it.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I saw Wright is a candidate for the Murray St HC job. Getting ace recruiters on your staff is always critical. My guess is we’ll hear about Wright moving on soon.
 

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247 is reporting it.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I saw Wright is a candidate for the Murray St HC job. Getting ace recruiters on your staff is always critical. My guess is we’ll hear about Wright moving on soon.

I saw someone on Twitter with a 247 link but the link didn't have anything about Coley.

He was apparently a good recruiter at FSU.
 

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Seems like a solid pickup of a veteran coach with SEC experience.

Will be interesting to see if he's only a position coach or gets co-oc.
 
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Seems like a solid pickup of a veteran coach with SEC experience.

Will be interesting to see if he's only a position coach or gets co-oc.
Would think he gets a Co-OC tag, given his experience. It will be interesting to see if he's replacing anyone or if it's a reshuffle the deck scenario for the O staff. Evan Stewart is still in the portal. Wonder how his relationship with Coley was?
 
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Would think he gets a Co-OC tag, given his experience. It will be interesting to see if he's replacing anyone or if it's a reshuffle the deck scenario for the O staff. Evan Stewart is still in the portal. Wonder how his relationship with Coley was?

Yep, thinking the same thing. Such a veteran guy, would be a downgrade for him to come as just a position coach.

Going for this kind of coach makes me wonder if Shane had concerns about the offense last year under Loggains.
 

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Smells like a Co-OC/Running Game Coordinator position. Isn't that what Shawn Elliott's title was at one point? OL/Running Game Coordinator and then Asst HC/OL/RG Coordinator. Something along those lines.
 

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Smells like a Co-OC/Running Game Coordinator position. Isn't that what Shawn Elliott's title was at one point? OL/Running Game Coordinator and then Asst HC/OL/RG Coordinator. Something along those lines.

I don't see where Coley has ever been associated with the run game. He's been primarily QB and TE and a little WR.

I'm more curious if this is a reflection on Loggains.
 

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Yep, thinking the same thing. Such a veteran guy, would be a downgrade for him to come as just a position coach.

Going for this kind of coach makes me wonder if Shane had concerns about the offense last year under Loggains.
Shane gave a message to his team a couple of days ago when they reported to workouts. He said "we're not just going to keep doing the same things over and over expecting different results. We're going to do things differently". This hire is different. I don't know if it's concern for the O, or just a realization that he needs to hire guys who have proven to be successful at a high level. Gray is the only other coach we have that's coached at a high level. I guess you might throw Stepp in there for spending a few years at Ark. But prior to that, he had nothing.
 
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Shane gave a message to his team a couple of days ago when they reported to workouts. He said "we're not just going to keep doing the same things over and over expecting different results. We're going to do things differently". This hire is different. I don't know if it's concern for the O, or just a realization that he needs to hire guys who have proven to be successful at a high level. Gray is the only other coach we have that's coached at a high level. I guess you might throw Stepp in there for spending a few years at Ark. But prior to that, he had nothing.

That all sounds reasonable.

If I'm Loggains, though, and my boss brings in a co-oc after my first year on the job, it would sure make me think some things.

Whatever the case, I'm happy to see Beamer changing up his approach a bit and bringing in a highly experienced coach. Experience matters.
 

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Coley was OC at UGA for one season and is regarded as the reason Jake Fromm left early. He supposedly is a good recruiter in South Florida so maybe that is why Beamer wants him.
 

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Coley was OC at UGA for one season and is regarded as the reason Jake Fromm left early. He supposedly is a good recruiter in South Florida so maybe that is why Beamer wants him.

His season as OC as UGA was not a good one. Had some explosive offenses at Miami.
 

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Born in Miami and coached at Miami, FIU and FSU for about 9 years and is considered to have strong recruiting ties in the area. One would have to assume that will be his recruiting territory.
 

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His season as OC as UGA was not a good one. Had some explosive offenses at Miami.
If he was the reason they ended up with Jake Fromm over Justin Fields, then don't let him near our QBs. lol. I think that was more of a Kirby deal, but just sayin. Not a fan of letting a talent like Justin Fields walk in favor of Jake Fromm. He was terrible. That 2019 year was wild. We were the only L UGA had that year, and they got the joy of matching up with probably the best O in the history of CFB in the SECCG.
 
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If he was the reason they ended up with Jake Fromm over Justin Fields, then don't let him near our QBs. lol. I think that was more of a Kirby deal, but just sayin. Not a fan of letting a talent like Justin Fields walk in favor of Jake Fromm. He was terrible. That 2019 year was wild. We were the only L UGA had that year, and they got the joy of matching up with probably the best O in the history of CFB in the SECCG.
Yeah, Fromm only won the SEC East all three years he was qb, only won the SEC championship once, left the field leading Bama in the national championship game and had a 36-7 record as the qb. Who sticks with a qb with those sort of numbers? Fields was terrible when he played against a legit D at UGA. He couldn't read a defense or go through progressions on receivers and his default setting was to take off and run if the first receiver wasn't open. Kirby (and Coley) would have been fools to pull Fromm and put in Fields.

Coley wasn't very good as OC but I think his recruiting was why Kirby kept him around. It will be interesting to see if he can make any headway with Florida players. Carolina hasn't been a real destination for Florida players. Clemson has had great luck recruiting in Florida.
 

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Yeah, Fromm only won the SEC East all three years he was qb, only won the SEC championship once, left the field leading Bama in the national championship game and had a 36-7 record as the qb. Who sticks with a qb with those sort of numbers? Fields was terrible when he played against a legit D at UGA. He couldn't read a defense or go through progressions on receivers and his default setting was to take off and run if the first receiver wasn't open. Kirby (and Coley) would have been fools to pull Fromm and put in Fields.

Coley wasn't very good as OC but I think his recruiting was why Kirby kept him around. It will be interesting to see if he can make any headway with Florida players. Carolina hasn't been a real destination for Florida players. Clemson has had great luck recruiting in Florida.
Ok, maybe terrible is strong. He meant as much to their success as AJ McCarron did for Bama. Both of those guys just didn't screw it up for the running game. There's value in that.

Fields broke Clemson. For that, I am forever grateful.
 

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I think this shows that anyone who says they have any idea about coaching moves in the Beamer admin is FOS. The man holds these things about as close to vest as you can. The only morsel of info we had that this would be a possibility came from the Cloninger tidbit that the staff had flown to A&M to meet with a coach. That it. There's been no real info out there about the RB position, other than people's opinion that Smith makes sense. The Liberty name has been mentioned. Dowell Loggains came out of left field. Clear to me that Shane operates under the loose lips sink ships mantra. I like that.
 
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Maybe its as simple as He needs a job,Carolina needs a TE coach.Not sure I would read anything concerning Loggins and OC into this.On occasion I've seen people giving a co-coordinator title to be able justify paying them more but I just see the hiring of a TE coach here.
 

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Actually, he was demoted to TE coach. A week later, he was at aTm.
Tomato, tomahto.

Cloninger just said on the ITG show to not expect this is a zero sum move. That it might not be a scenario where we lost a TE coach and got a TE coach. He stressed that's he's being added as an offensive assistant, and there's likely some shifting around to go on. But also said not to expect him to be a RB coach. I'm wondering if there's a play to make him WR coach to bring Evans in.
 

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Maybe its as simple as He needs a job,Carolina needs a TE coach.Not sure I would read anything concerning Loggins and OC into this.On occasion I've seen people giving a co-coordinator title to be able justify paying them more but I just see the hiring of a TE coach here.
Not the case according to Cloninger, who was the only one that had any info related to this at all. See my post above.
 

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In looking over the UGA situation again, what's most remarkable is that after going 12-2 and finishing top 5 in the polls, Kirby still made major staff moves.

That's how the big boys roll.
 

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Would think he gets a Co-OC tag, given his experience. It will be interesting to see if he's replacing anyone or if it's a reshuffle the deck scenario for the O staff. Evan Stewart is still in the portal. Wonder how his relationship with Coley was?
If we can get Stewart I’ll love that lol
 

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:unsure: :unsure:Wonder who Wright will target for OC?? Wonder if that might the reason for the obscure "offensive assistant" description for Coley?? We might not be done yet.
 

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If he was the reason they ended up with Jake Fromm over Justin Fields, then don't let him near our QBs. lol. I think that was more of a Kirby deal, but just sayin. Not a fan of letting a talent like Justin Fields walk in favor of Jake Fromm. He was terrible. That 2019 year was wild. We were the only L UGA had that year, and they got the joy of matching up with probably the best O in the history of CFB in the SECCG.
I have to along with you on this line of thought.