Jarvis mention in NY Times blog...

dawgstudent

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http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/basketball-notes-from-le-land-of-lebron/<span style="text-decoration: underline;">
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In the drills with the college players, two lesser known guys had college coaches buzzing. The first was 7-foot Tulsa Center Jerome Jordan, who is unpolished but showed the potential (like Rider's Jason Thompson last year) to be a factor in the N.B.A. someday. The other was Mississippi State forward Jarvis Varnado, who is 6 feet, 9 inches but just ridiculously long. He's raw offensively, but his potential is such that it was hard to not watch him.
 

fishwater99

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dawgstudent wrote:

The other was Mississippi State forward Jarvis Varnado, who is 6 feet, 9 inches but just ridiculously long. He's raw offensively, but his potential is such that it was hard to not watch him.
Too bad it he will not get to develop much more under Stans.
Hopefully he will get drafted on his potential alone, it might be best for him to take the leap to the NBA after this year..
He better look at what L. Roberts and M. Austin didn't do and go pro after this year...
Don't get me wrong, I would like to see him at MSU all four years, but it may not be in his best interest to do so.
 

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Too bad it he will not get to develop much more under Stans.
Yeah. We all know Stans can't develop players. Just look at how much Varnado didn't improve from his FR to his SO seasons. Also look at guys like Mario Austin, Derrick Zimmerman, Timmy Bowers, etc. etc. who never improved from their FR seasons.
 

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fishwater99 said:
dawgstudent wrote:

The other was Mississippi State forward Jarvis Varnado, who is 6 feet, 9 inches but just ridiculously long. He's raw offensively, but his potential is such that it was hard to not watch him.
Too bad it he will not get to develop much more under Stans.
Hopefully he will get drafted on his potential alone, it might be best for him to take the leap to the NBA after this year..
He better look at what L. Roberts and M. Austin didn't do and go pro after this year...
Don't get me wrong, I would like to see him at MSU all four years, but it may not be in his best interest to do so.

And the village idiot strikes again
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Dishwater, get real. Timmy Bowers told me he owes all the development he had to Stans. Maybe leaning over that sink at the Waffle House is getting to you. Give it up!
 

fishwater99

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Name one Big Man that Stans has developed...

LR worked with John Lucas
Mario did not develop as he should have.
Marcus C. Why did he always want to dribble? He could have been so much better.
CR was only a glimmer of what he could have been.

You can go on and on...

Stans is a good coach and a great recruiter, but he does not develop Big Men at MSU.
 

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Mario didn't develop like he should have? 2-time All-SEC player and honorable mention All-American. Improved from 7.9 points and 3.6 boards per game his FR season to 15.9 points and 7.6 boards per game the rest of his MSU career.

Charles Rhodes? Did you even SEE him his FR season? He was the most uncoordinated big man I've seen (even worse than Campbell). Stans changed him from a player who literally couldn't even stand still without fouling someone and every dribble was a turnover to an All-SEC player who signed a free agent NBA contract.
 

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as i've learned from this board, dubmasses don't change their opinions ...and no matter how much you prove them wrong, they'll always find another way
 

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Gordon worked with John Lucas as well and look what it got him.

Coaches matter but a lot of development has to do with the player's work ethic. Almost all coaches do the same drills and tell kids the same thing. Don't forget that M. Campbell went to like Pete Newell's big man camp one summer and few other camps and they couldn't help him either.
 

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has an unlimited ceiling as far as his potential is concerned. His defensive potential is the corner stone of his game. From what I have taken over the years it is harder to teach defensive skills than offensive. I am sure Jarvis can take his game to the next level. I love his effort and his length. Stans is one of the best coaches in the SEC. Period. We better be glad to have him and if you think not, please provide me an alternative.
 

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That Jarvis might be the most talented out of all the big guys we've had at MSU under Stans.

His D is certainly the best D i've seen out of all the big guys mentioned.

He could average 10pts, 10 rebs, and 5 blocks next year.
 

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Austin, Roberts, and Varnado are all completely different types of players. It's hard to argue who is better because they all do different things. Varnado is a great defender but mediocre on offense. Austin was an excellent offensive player and a great passer who could get his teammates involved, but an average defender. Roberts was an average defender also. But he had a motor that never stopped and the ability to grab boards he had no business getting.
 
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