Jerrel Powe = Dontae Jones....discuss**
- Thread starter dawgstudent
- Start date
- Status
although the specifics are different, I really think their generic paths to eligbility are strikingly similar. So from this day forward, no more 36 hour jokes.
Also, Dontae was not 44 when he started playing college sports.
Also, Dontae was not 44 when he started playing college sports.
Why??
Because as his Moma said, "Jerrel is a good kid, he just can't read."
How do you pass 24 hrs of "college classes" when you can't read??
It must be a miracle of the Ole Miss tutoring system, or were all of his classes "oral".
Because as his Moma said, "Jerrel is a good kid, he just can't read."
How do you pass 24 hrs of "college classes" when you can't read??
It must be a miracle of the Ole Miss tutoring system, or were all of his classes "oral".
G
Goat Holder
Guest
The line from The Program "I can read, N I K E... That spells nike." I looked the movie up on imdb.com to see who that actor was and found this:
/Yikes!
//The conspiracy continues</p>
/Yikes!
//The conspiracy continues</p>
is that Dontae apparently did next to nothing in junior college which made his path to getting eligible at MSU extremely difficult, though possible. On the other hand, Powe apparently did next to nothing since kindergarten which makes his getting eligible at UM seem impossible. I don't know much about Dontae before junior college, so I assume he was able to qualify for junior college. Powe couldn't qualify for 5th grade since he couldn't read.
ShaNaNa said:
Dontae Jones would have been horrible at DT... The pads would have looked funny under his basketball uni also.</p>
I think you'd be surprised to find out how many D-1 athletes are less intelligent than Powe.
And yes, Powe can read. His mom just doesn't understand the difference between dyslexic and "can't read". Can't really blame her though. She's poor and from a small town. In those circumstances, you don't differentiate between things too well usually.
I will say that Dontae does not equal Powe though, because you guys were able to get Dontae on the bus on the first try. If we had been able to let Powe take 18 high school credit hours in the summer after his senior year, and had he been admitted in the fall of 2005 after having basically nothing in the spring of 2005, then it would've been the same kind of miracle. Also, had Dontae been required to sit a year before playing, then it would've been equal.
Speaking of which, did Dontae play more than one year for MSU? If not, then I'm guessing Powe has already passed more hours at Ole Miss than Dontae did at MSU.
Either way, the way I see it, passing 24 hours of college level courses should be enough to allow you to play. I know they are athlete-friendly college courses, but they're likely the same type of courses Chris Strong, Mico McSwain, and many others failed to complete.
And yes, Powe can read. His mom just doesn't understand the difference between dyslexic and "can't read". Can't really blame her though. She's poor and from a small town. In those circumstances, you don't differentiate between things too well usually.
I will say that Dontae does not equal Powe though, because you guys were able to get Dontae on the bus on the first try. If we had been able to let Powe take 18 high school credit hours in the summer after his senior year, and had he been admitted in the fall of 2005 after having basically nothing in the spring of 2005, then it would've been the same kind of miracle. Also, had Dontae been required to sit a year before playing, then it would've been equal.
Speaking of which, did Dontae play more than one year for MSU? If not, then I'm guessing Powe has already passed more hours at Ole Miss than Dontae did at MSU.
Either way, the way I see it, passing 24 hours of college level courses should be enough to allow you to play. I know they are athlete-friendly college courses, but they're likely the same type of courses Chris Strong, Mico McSwain, and many others failed to complete.
...Dontae was just a cocky, lazy unmotivated athlete. They are a dime a dozen. Powe has serious problems and is actually a disabled person. No more 36 hr. jokes is the least you can say.
but why exactly should we believe you when you say "Powe can read" and not believe his mother when she says "he's a good kid, he just can't read"? Seriously?
I would be very surprised to find out that their are many less intelligent athletes than Powe.RebelBruiser said:
Powe cannot read past an average 1st grade level. Simple as that. Call him lazy, call him dyslexic, call him blind if you want. Bottom line is that he can't read past an average 1st grade level. PERIOD.
MadDawg said:
</p>
Well, that depends. You can choose to believe that his uneducated mother knew the difference between can't read and dyslexic. Or you can choose to believe the CL reporter that went to do a story on Powe right after her comment, where he proved he could read and write. I really don't know how you pass 24 hours of college courses without the ability to read.
Then again, I guess you could just choose to believe that he was given the grades despite the fact that we failed to give grades to the 20 or so players we had that were behind entering spring semester and despite the fact that another freshman DT of ours, Chris Strong, flunked out of school taking pretty much the same work load.
I know I'm arguing with a brick wall here, but I guess one quote from an uneducated person throws everything else out the window.
RebelBruiser said:
</p>If she is so poor, then how did she afford all of the attorney fees and tutors?
I agree, and there will come a time when one of your coaches scoots another guy through the system and into school that is highly questionable, and we'll have fans attack it when it happens. At that point, even if it's 10 years down the line, your fans will get to say "Jerrell Powe".
I agree MadDawg...
Not so sure He Can read...
Call me Doubting Thomas, I want to see it to believe it..
</p>
Not so sure He Can read...
Call me Doubting Thomas, I want to see it to believe it..
</p>
...as far as the reaction goes, but I just think Dontae was a lazy thug who had the ability to pass a college course and Powe really doesn't.
engineerdog said:
</p>
Short answer, she probably couldn't. I'm betting someone else paid for the attorney's fees. However, I'm sure that it was done in a way that wouldn't get us in trouble. That was one of the big questions this summer before they were going to officially clear him. They wanted the paperwork that proved the payments were made in a way that was going to be acceptable to the NCAA.
I don't have a clue how they did it, but that's really just par for the course when it comes to college athletics. The sooner you give up on the idea of the student-athlete, and the sooner you realize that your athletic team is just a minor league sports team, the better. I don't pretend that the football and basketball players are the same as regular students. They're not the same, and that's the way it is at every D-1 school with the exception of a handful of private schools.
dawg i feel your pain!! i have season tickets for both the teams and generally make all of games. it will cause someone to drink. heavily</p>
RebelBruiser said:
</p>I agree 100%. That is why I don't believe for one minute that Powe learned to read to get into Ole Miss and is currently doing his own coursework. In one post you say that he is legitimately passing courses like other college students, then in the next post you are saying that athletes are treated differently. I gave up on the idea of the student-athlete long ago. I actually witnessed it firsthand. I think you need to let go of the idea that Powe earned his way into Ole Miss. Sumbitch can't read. Period.
there is a dontae jones rule? I had no idea:
http://arkansas.scout.com/2/614108.html
edited to add: Im pretty sure I knew the rule but never heard it called the DJ rule.
http://arkansas.scout.com/2/614108.html
edited to add: Im pretty sure I knew the rule but never heard it called the DJ rule.
MadDawg said:
I was thinking the same thing. Judging whether someone can read, i.e. look at letters and form words from them, is something that is not hard to do whether the person has a learning disability or not. Say for example <font color="#000000" face="Helvetica,Arial" size="2">Señor</font> Powe is looking at a piece of paper and can't string the words together. Because he has a learning disability, does that mean that he really can string the words together? I don't think so.
</p>
engineerdog said:
</p>
No, I said he was legitimately earning his grades like other college athletes, not like other students. He's in the athlete friendly courses with tutors available, yet he passed all his classes and maintained a high enough GPA. We had over 20 athletes in the same type of courses that were behind coming into the spring, and we had Chris Strong who was so far behind after the spring that he didn't even stand a chance even with summer school. Yes, he's getting to take easier classes and getting extra help, but he's not getting treated any different than other athletes on the team.
They all get treated differently than regular students, yet some of them still don't pass the courses. Powe passed his at least, which earns him the right to participate in the farce that is college athletics.
And yes he can read. It was reported by a legit media outlet that the guy can read. His mom was wrong. I understand poking fun at it because of her comments, but the guy can read.
RebelBruiser said:
</p>So you are saying that a media outlet in Jackson, MS (miles away from Waynesboro) has more legitimacy concerning what Jerell can or can't do than his own mother who lives in the house with him and has for Jerrell's entire life? I call BS on that. You are telling me that the Clarion Ledger knows more about my 7-year old son's reading ability, my 3-year old daughter's favorite stuffed animal, and my wife's favorite TV show than I do. Bullcrap.
- Status
Get unlimited access today.