His HC career won't be long. Can't believe we were considering him. I want an alumni to be successful but he clearly wasn't ready to be a hc.
Joe Judge
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You may be right but lack of NFL success isn't exactly an indicator of what he'd do in college.
Considering him? His wife went out and bought a maroon outfit to wear to the press conference. We got lucky there.
The NFL chewed up and spit out Spurrier, Meyer, Saban, Pete Carroll, etc. Conversely Kliff Kingsbury failed in college, but has done pretty well so far it the NFL. Success or failure in one does not necessarily equate to the other. Personnel decisions are probably the hardest part of the NFL. Joe inherited a QB and is stuck with him due to him being a high draft pick. The three years prior to Joe, the Giants won a total of 12 games, they were a train wreck long before he got there. Joe went 6-10 in his first year which probably exceeded expectations. Obviously this year has been very bad.
Pete Carolls been to the playoffs 9x, 2 Super Bowls and won 1. That's not exactly chewed up and spit out
Awful, just a perfect example of the worst type of message board post imaginable.
I knew somebody would make this comment. You may want to google his time as the Patriots HC.
It still doesn’t make sense because Carroll was an NFL guy. He came up through the ranks and was a highly successful defensive coordinator before becoming a head coach. He was the D coordinator for the Pats team that went to the super bowl and lost to Farve. I never understand why he gets lumped in with college coaches. He only went to USC because he knew he could win big there and get another HC job in the NFL.
He didn’t do badly as Patriots head coach. He had a 27-21 overall record, never had a losing season and made the playoffs two times in three years.
Just an example of failing at one level, but not the other. Judge is an NFL guy (like Carroll) and will likely end up failing as a first time NFL HC like Carroll (assuming Joe gets next year), he could very well move to college and succeed. The NFL is so hard, I don't think you can count a coach out who fails in his first gig.
He picked 20% of your post to try and make a point, because he knew he couldn't with the other 80%. He's just being an argumentative ***. It's a typical message board technique to keep his bad take alive.
Hard to say he wasn't a college guy when he won a national title (split another and played for another) and created a dynasty for nearly a decade. Better to say he is just a hell of a football coach, probably the best of the modern era.
Would have been great to have a consistent foil to the Patriots, of course the Saints wouldn't have the Super Bowl though.
Joe was my kick *** electronics lab partner in college and a super cool dude. Recruited by JWS, said he initially didn't want to come to State thinking we had the goofy uni shoulder stripes (Rebs), and yet we had Russell Athletic garb when we graduated.
Even if he's fired tomorrow he made $10 mil+ over 2 years coaching the NY Giants and could return to coach our special teams, hopefully.
Even if he's fired tomorrow he made $10 mil+ over 2 years coaching the NY Giants and could return to coach our special teams, hopefully.
Joey Harrington at QB? Cmon man. Just imagine how history would be different if Saban signs Brees instead of Culpepper.
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Was he bad at NE, yep. Was he bad at NY, yep. BUT, only 24 different coaches have EVER been to the Super Bowl, ever. He's been to 2 and won one of them. If you call that tanking as an NFL head coach you are a DUBMASS
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