Johnny Football
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Just got done watching it too. He makes a pretty good argument for NIL.
Messed up dude with a checked-out, clueless dad.
Most mad I’ve ever been at a game in Starkville. I think I drank a dozen beers before 11 AM. Went home and took a nap at halftime and woke up feeling like absolute death. Will never forgive him for that. Cool doc tho.
Very good show. Both of his parents are unbelievable, though. The dad's comments that it's the job of a college football program to turn your son into an upstanding young man is pure lunacy.
Interesting to hear his friend talk about the autograph signing "business". I still can't believe he only got a half game suspension for that.
Lots of crazy stories revealed in the documentary.
Interesting to hear his friend talk about the autograph signing "business". I still can't believe he only got a half game suspension for that.
Lots of crazy stories revealed in the documentary.
I thought the same. He even wanted the high school to do that 'military' type stuff.
Where was he? Did he not instill ANY discipline at all? But it can sometime go the other way, he may have been overbearing, and we just didn't see that part.
Of course on the other hand, Sumlin was not a very 'tough' coach. His teams were always soft. Klingsbury was the same way.
It said he showed up to practice on the Thursday before our game hungover after having been out for Halloween (10/31/2012 was a Wednesday). By the time Saturday (11/3) rolled around, he was unfortunately fine.
Heck, the opening montage showed him shotgunning beer and ripping bong hits at his house with his buddies. Doesn't look like it's toned down too much yet...
You mean Tuesdays? Y'all don't celebrate em like this every week round your neck of the woods?*
This was my thought as well. He doesn’t seem to have learned much after all. Seems he’d be avoiding that since he’s bipolar but Johnny Football gonna Johnny Football.
They also said he was sweating beer in Starkville so I would assume he was still hurting from partying.
Given that the dad commented that Johnny didn’t fall far from the tree, I’m guessing the dad is an arrogant jackass as well.
I just watched it. It’s a very good show, but what a waste of talent. It’s funny how some with all the talent have the least give a damn. It all comes down to life choices and decision making.
The frat boy reference is a little skewed in that most of the fraternity guys that I knew at state have made something of themselves. (Lawyers, engineers, business owners, assistant athletic directors, big farmers, CPAs, doctors, dentists, and bank executives). I’d say it is a much higher successful percentage than non-greek. But thinking back on it, maybe that’s just who I came in contact with.
The frat boy reference is a little skewed in that most of the fraternity guys that I knew at state have made something of themselves. (Lawyers, engineers, business owners, assistant athletic directors, big farmers, CPAs, doctors, dentists, and bank executives). I’d say it is a much higher successful percentage than non-greek. But thinking back on it, maybe that’s just who I came in contact with.
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I heard that Jerry Jones had to be physically restrained from drafting him first round.
If that had happened, Dak might never have been drafted by the Cowboys. He could've been a Saint.
If that had happened, Dak might never have been drafted by the Cowboys. He could've been a Saint.
That was the only game I have ever left before halftime
Probably true.
I went on a tour of The Star last year. They take you in the Draft room. The tour guide told the story; Jerry was set on Johnny football as the first pick. Stephen Jones and others talked Jerry out of it and they picked Zack Martin. Thank goodness for Stephen.
The Cowboys have a pretty good front office. Stephen Jones isn't a complete idiot, and Will McClay is currently the de facto GM.
However, I still believe the Cowboys are soft because Jerral keeps sticking his nose into things he sucks at (like player personnel decisions) and not concentrating on what he does best- sell the Cowboys as America's Team.
Got news for Jerral- the Cowboy dynasty of the early 1990's was entirely due to Jimmy Johnson.
However, I still believe the Cowboys are soft because Jerral keeps sticking his nose into things he sucks at (like player personnel decisions) and not concentrating on what he does best- sell the Cowboys as America's Team.
Got news for Jerral- the Cowboy dynasty of the early 1990's was entirely due to Jimmy Johnson.
Great show. He was a **** show. He does make a good argument for nil. The dad was basically a terrible father. Not much of a good example and his parents pretty much enabled him.
watching him play was something else. That game in Starkville was miserable. We couldn't do anything right that game to remotely stop him. It was over in the first quarter.
I am reminded that the best qbs can make things happen with their feet extending plays. I can't wait to have a qb again that can move and extend plays. Just makes me wonder what leaches system could have looked like with s mobile qb. Will never know.
watching him play was something else. That game in Starkville was miserable. We couldn't do anything right that game to remotely stop him. It was over in the first quarter.
I am reminded that the best qbs can make things happen with their feet extending plays. I can't wait to have a qb again that can move and extend plays. Just makes me wonder what leaches system could have looked like with s mobile qb. Will never know.
IF......they can also throw. Those aren't as easy to find as so many think they are.
A QB who is just fast doesn't really move the needle. That would have been terrible in the Air Raid. Johnny would have been awesome, but Johnny would have been awesome in most any offense.
Can't tell me there aren't a bunch of high school qbs in Texas that don't runs modified air raid that can sling it and move their feet. See guys like that a lot on Saturday's in a lot of schools. We just happened to get the one that can move his feet and not backwards into a sack
This is a myth, a made-up fallacy to support agendas. Very similar to Croom's 'can-find-a-receiver-on-any-Miami-street-corner' quote.
There are some QBs that can throw, a good many that can run, but not many at all that can do both on an adequate basis at the college level (that's the key point here). I THINK Chris Parson might be one, or might can develop into one. We'll see. But it's not as easy as you say.
So many of you were frustrated with Nicky Fitz, and he was one of the best runners around.
I loved fitz but I knew it was stupid to try to make him into a vertical accurate passer. Play action and wheel routes he was great at in 17. Moorhead was just an idiot.
parsons I'm excited about
parsons I'm excited about
Texas does have a lot of gunslinging quarterbacks. However, the defenses all suck.
Also, the High School coaching and development in Texas is so good, many of the players are close to their ceiling by the time they get to college,
In Mississippi, you still find raw talent, diamonds in the rough. For example, Bernardrick McKinney was an option quarterback in High School. Comes to State, becomes an all-american linebacker and has a great career in the League.
Yep, he was able to perform when he had the keys to the team at Texas A&M. But when he got to the pros and everything was structured he couldn't handle it. He couldn't function in an environment where he couldn't makes his own rules. Nothing to see here other than a spoiled brat who was an *** to his family and threw his career away.
This isn't original to me, but if he gets to keep his Heisman, how does Reggie Bush lose his?
Someone joked on Twitter during the draft that Jerry was screaming Johnny Football into his phone, which had been intentionally disconnected.