Jordan Burch rumor -- wants to return to USC
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No idea if there's any substance or not, but he used his one free transfer, right? To return means he sits a year?
Right. Although I'm pretty sure Beamer isn't going to let him come back. And I agree with him. He made his decision.
Has me thinking there's no substance to the rumor, unless he can claim one of the waivers for immediate eligibility for multiple transfers.
If I were Beamer, I'd listen to him. If he was truly contrite and admits to making a bad mistake, I can't say I wouldn't consider it. Of course, it depends on the nature of his departure. If he burned a lot of bridges, then a return may not be possible. Don't know what went on behind closed doors.
Yeah. Maybe there's some kind of appeal process where they'll be more lenient if the next academic year hasn't started yet?
I can see that. Especially if he was open and honest with Beamer on his thought process beforehand, and maybe promised a bunch of stuff that didn't materialize. I could be used a teaching moment for the future.
I don’t think it would be wise to welcome him back. I can’t imagine it would sit too well with his teammates to see him bail on them, go through all of that, only to return. Burch wasn’t good enough on the field to deal with the possible chemistry and team issues that might cause. I’m sure it’s possible they handle it in stride, but the potential of it being an issue is really the reason why I’d be reluctant to allow him back.
LOL.. Spurs Up Show is clickbait ********. Pretty crazy he has somehow managed to gain a following with his nonsense.
Sounds like it’s a big nothing burger
Pardon me for interrupting the Clemson discussion on this forum.
I would allow him to come back if the reasoning from him was right. He’s a hometown kid, he’s a kid that received bad advice, and we need more depth.
I don’t know who or what it is. I have generally seen accurate information reported by them on Twitter though. I don’t follow him closely enough to know either way though.
Well, that’s pretty much what I figured. But I thought we could use a break from talking about Clemson’s for a little bit.Sounds like it’s a big nothing burger
That's not what I'm saying. I like the post but only check "The Insiders Forum". Would get a lot more views and comments on there.
It’s not just him. I’ve seen it other places too, from people that don’t like him.
In the event that a situation like this every actually did arise, I guess I'd be ok with it, so long as the player didn't leave on bad terms and fills a need. If you're gonna embrace the portal, you gotta embrace it fully.
A 21 year old is not a kid. He chose to leave. He should not be welcomed back. Nothing personal, but he willingly left his teammates. It has really poor optics allowing a guy leave enroll in another school and we welcome him back.
21 years old that only experienced playing football in college not anything else is still a kid. He played in the bowl game and made a decision to leave after every game was played. I just kinda feel like you have to be a little more understanding with instate players especially when he honored the whole season unlike others.
Pre-portal era, I agree. With the pro model, though, if you can get someone that makes the team better, you take him. If he transferred, so what? You take players that transferred from other schools. It’s just the way it is now.
Would we take a player who we recruited but chose to go somewhere else and he decided to transfer here later? Absolutely if he filled a need. I don’t see how this is really any different.
Didn’t Stogner go back to OU?
Yep, good point. Like I said above, if you embrace the portal, you gotta embrace it. Can’t have hard feelings against guys if they leave but want to come back. Happens in the pros frequently. It’s a business now, so just have to treat it that way.
It's what the coaches think that matters anyhow.
No, the optics are that the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence (or country in this case). That could help when other people are faced with making the transfer decision in the future.
Yeah I'm with this, Coach knows what to do in this situation. I just hope he sets a policy and sticks with it unlike another coach in the state that you can't figure out what he'll do from one minute to the next, ie, we're not taking any transfer portal guys or when they start paying players I'm out of here! If you say you're going to do something stick to it!
It’s an odd scenario for sure. Had a girl who dumped me in college, was crazy about her but ego allowed me to move on quickly. She came back shortly saying how much she loved me. I didn’t even consider it.
like Gomer Pyle says, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
I'm fine with Beamer's decision since he's the head man but if it was up to me, the answer is no.
Don't know anything about him. He posts a lot of presser quotes and clips, which is nice. I don't have time to watch entire pressers, so the excerpts are helpful. Whatever information he posts I've found is generally accurate. I dunno.
Were you a 21 year old college student?? I was. Were you a 21 year old college student with universities promising you $$ to transfer there?? Yeah, I wasn't either. I was in no way, shape, or form a functioning adult at the age of 21. A 21 year old that didn't go to college that's been in the real world for 3-4 years is not a 21 year old college student. It's like Disney Land vs Office Space. A 21 year old college student is a kid. Especially one that's been coddled and told by everyone how great he is for 5-10 years.
I think Beamer has done enough for us to trust him here. If this is true and Burch is wanting to come back, I trust Beamer will make the right decision for the program. I think it's worth noting that Burch waiting until after the bowl game to make this decision. There's a huge difference in Jordan Burch and Bell/Lloyd.
I guess you can make the argument that the pre-frontal cortex isn't fully developed until the age of 25.
But I'm not really considering the age/maturity/made a mistake aspect of it. I hate the portal, but fans have largely embraced it, so I can't see getting pissy and whiny if this situation were to ever actually happen. The portal doesn't just work one way. Every player we're taking from the portal is leaving a team as well. If moving through the portal speaks poorly of Burch's character, then it speaks poorly of every player we take from the portal as well. This is pro ball now. Purely business. Guys move around all the time in the pros, and not infrequently return to a team they previously left. It's business. If a guy fills a need and makes you better, you take him. Burch made a business decision to leave. If he were to ever actually make a decision to try to return, that's a business decision as well. We have to likewise treat it as business. If he makes us better, you take him.
Exactly. That point seems lost on people. We're all jacked about Trey Knox. But he's a quitter of low character, right?? If Burch is, then Knox must be. It's stupid. That's not a valid reason to not take Burch back. Each situation is unique.
I doubt this is happening, but it would be funny if we beat Oregon for Harbor and then took Burch back from them.
Agreed. Leave it to Beamer.
My 2 cents. If we need him and he's coming back for the right reasons, accept him back with open arms. I have had many employees leave and then return. If they were good employees that left on good terms, I will always take them back if I need them. You know what you are getting and a lot less time getting them up speed. If he wants to come back and we need him, it's an easy decision.
I trust whatever Beamer decides. I thought Burch was really coming on and making an impact. Didn’t want him to leave. Thought Bell was overrated and Lloyd had potential but stayed injured. We got better at TE when Bell left.
But make no mistake, at 21 while in college…..I drank better than most adults
