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Croom's commitments so far this year have been absolutely stunning. It's imperative that we at least go to a bowl this season.
I just looked at the interested schools. When is the last time we got someone who Alabama, Auburn, Florida State, LSU, Michigan, and Tennessee were all after?
Good pick up indeed.
Good pick up indeed.
When someone posted the tenn scout article about boyd, I checked his offers and thought we had no shot. Offers from michigan, lsu, bama, florida state, and many others. Its been a LONG time since we were a serious recruiting competitor. It at least seems that croom is making strides in this area. Like ds said, we MUST have at least marginal success on the field (.500 or better) in order to keep building our recruiting base. With hardy and now boyd, our d line could be very good for the next few years.
...there were four or five other recruits waiting to see what Josh Boyd was going to do. I'd be surprised if we didn't see several more commitments from Dandy Dozen level recruits within the next 2 weeks. As Goatholder said, he is a HUGE get!
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Further proof that Steve & Yancy are selling the same ********.
The same line of **** was being sold on the Spirit before Clayton Moore committed. That several players were waiting on his decision and they would follow him.
Again, great pick up with Boyd. Croom is doing excellent. However, there isn't going to be a "domino effect".</p>
Yea, I have to laugh at that one as well. Nicely done Backer. I'm sure that Josh Boyd was holding all the cards for most recruits in the state. You need to quit buying that garbage they're selling you over on scout.
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Just to add to that point, we've also got 2 really good looking DEs committed in Fletcher Cox and Anthony Rogers. Not to mention the all the DEs we picked up last year, surely a couple of them will pan out, move to DT or move to LB. The defensive front appears like it will be a strong point in a couple of years.
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Ole Miss gospel? I was just laughing at the idea that one recruit would hold the cards for most of the top recruits in the state. We've been hearing that type of thing about different recruits every year from Gene, Yancy, etc.
They do this every year. It's just funny to me that anyone would still be buying it no matter how many times these guys are proven wrong. If it makes you feel better, I laughed at those of our own fans that bought the idea that Clayton Moore was going to lead to commitments from other prospects for us.
I'm sorry but it was less a year ago when recruiting was all you U of M sob's talked about. If I had to hear one more trust fund baby talk about "the next big thing" I was going to puke. See yall in November. You and all your bust recruits.
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Since when does that matter? The idea behind all these package deals is that certain recruits are close to other recruits and therefore will be able to sway their decisions. It has little to nothing to do with who is the better talent.
If the best players all followed the other best players, then all you'd have to do is sign the top talent in the state, and then you could pick the rest.
Point being, Gene, Steve, and Yancy have tried to sell the idea of package deals for years, and rarely do they ever materialize in nearly the same form that they proclaim. So Gene trying to sell the idea of Boyd leading to a domino effect of in state recruits is just as laughable as Yancy trying to sell the same with Clayton Moore. Neither one holds the cards for other recruits in state.
Edited to add: Please don't preach recruiting rankings to me. That stuff is a load of garbage. What makes you say that Josh Boyd or Tyler Russell are greater than Moore, or anyone else for that matter? Is it because a bunch of guys like Gene and Yancy that have very little background in football coaching or player evaluation tell you so? If these guys are so good at talent evaluation, why is it that Wes Carroll is coming into this fall as your starting QB and not Josh Riddell?
If the best players all followed the other best players, then all you'd have to do is sign the top talent in the state, and then you could pick the rest.
Point being, Gene, Steve, and Yancy have tried to sell the idea of package deals for years, and rarely do they ever materialize in nearly the same form that they proclaim. So Gene trying to sell the idea of Boyd leading to a domino effect of in state recruits is just as laughable as Yancy trying to sell the same with Clayton Moore. Neither one holds the cards for other recruits in state.
Edited to add: Please don't preach recruiting rankings to me. That stuff is a load of garbage. What makes you say that Josh Boyd or Tyler Russell are greater than Moore, or anyone else for that matter? Is it because a bunch of guys like Gene and Yancy that have very little background in football coaching or player evaluation tell you so? If these guys are so good at talent evaluation, why is it that Wes Carroll is coming into this fall as your starting QB and not Josh Riddell?
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I didn't follow recruiting at all back then, but I'm sure that top rated QBs can have an effect on WR recruits in particular, but I really doubt that you see very many players ever that are able to create the sort of domino effect that your recruiting gurus seem to talk about all the time.
Package deals do exist, but not nearly to the level that the scout geeks would lead you to believe.
Package deals do exist, but not nearly to the level that the scout geeks would lead you to believe.
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but you're mistaken if you think I'm basing my info on what the scout geeks think. 2 things:
1) I follow MSU recruiting during the year mostly through Robertson.
2) What ACTUALLY HAPPENS on signing day has nothing to do with Robertson.
So when I talk about Eli Manning, Tim Tebow, etc. it has nothing to do with the recruitniks. They have come and gone, and created domino effects. It's not subjective, it HAPPENED. Ask Mike Espy. Doug Buckles. Percy Harvin. Big time players attract others, just like winning breeds more winning. Alonzo Lawrence actually said it in an article: "It's really cool. It makes you feel good to be part of a great group of guys like that."
Now it may not make a decision for you, but what it DOES do is make other players notice you, and that's the biggest step, being a contender. When Tim Tebow announced for Florida, recruits took notice. Same with Eli. On a smaller scale, Garrett, Russell and Moore.
1) I follow MSU recruiting during the year mostly through Robertson.
2) What ACTUALLY HAPPENS on signing day has nothing to do with Robertson.
So when I talk about Eli Manning, Tim Tebow, etc. it has nothing to do with the recruitniks. They have come and gone, and created domino effects. It's not subjective, it HAPPENED. Ask Mike Espy. Doug Buckles. Percy Harvin. Big time players attract others, just like winning breeds more winning. Alonzo Lawrence actually said it in an article: "It's really cool. It makes you feel good to be part of a great group of guys like that."
Now it may not make a decision for you, but what it DOES do is make other players notice you, and that's the biggest step, being a contender. When Tim Tebow announced for Florida, recruits took notice. Same with Eli. On a smaller scale, Garrett, Russell and Moore.
To be fair, Gene and Steve didn't say this. The MSU coaching staff told Boyd that his committment could cause some other players to go ahead and commit. They didn't say who or that they were top recruits in Mississippi, so it could be anybody. The key word in there is COULD cause not anything about package deals. The difference is that Yancy flat out said that Moore and Thames was a package deal. That's why Yancy is catching all the **** not counting the BS he has spewed over the latest baseball commits.
Its not happening.
I can see some of the top players commiting to MSU eventually, but the next two weeks? No.
And if they do it will have little or nothing to do with Boyd.
Also, it is July 1st. Ole Miss had 5 of 14 preseason commits from the 2007 class sign and get eligible.
What is more important is who is still committed at the end of December, and who is still available.
I can see some of the top players commiting to MSU eventually, but the next two weeks? No.
And if they do it will have little or nothing to do with Boyd.
Also, it is July 1st. Ole Miss had 5 of 14 preseason commits from the 2007 class sign and get eligible.
What is more important is who is still committed at the end of December, and who is still available.
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