I don’t understand what his plan is..…. He wasn’t fantastic here. Does he think he’s going to go to another school, be great, and win a championship???
Maybe Massachusetts?I don’t understand what his plan is..…. He wasn’t fantastic here. Does he think he’s going to go to another school, be great, and win a championship???
But who’s gonna pay for the middling results we’ve seen?
I'd be interested to know the timing of the workings of outbound Gray and inbound Butler......Josh Gray hitting the portal was mutually beneficial. He can't play LP's style, he has no offense. Josh will find a home, and we've already got his replacement. Butler is exactly the player for LP's system.
I could see wanting to be dog cussed again at a losing school.Maybe Massachusetts?
I have never been a part of the Frank Martin fan club. However, UMass wasn't terrible this year. Won 20 games. Finished 4th in the A10. Typical Frank Martin team. Will tease that they are a tournament team and fade in February.I could see wanting to be dog cussed again at a losing school.
Farwell Horse as I appreciate your efforts and humor I hope you enjoyed your stay in Columbia.
Gray did not, yet has not reached his potential. Martin never developed anyone. If you messed up he yanked you and cussed you.In a way I feel sorry for him. It's one thing to be a 6 footer & unable to hit a curveball but, it's another thing to be a 7 footer, from Brooklyn and not very good at basketball. I know, I know, not all Hawaiians surf either. Just saying ... makes it tough.
Revisionist history much? Not trying to relitigate the firing, but Martin developed a bunch of players. The list is long and I don't feel like going back through it now, but for one example, did anyone think Michael Carrera would be 1st team all-SEC by the time he graduated? If a guy was able to stay and play several years for Martin, he would leave a much better player than he arrived.Gray did not, yet has not reached his potential. Martin never developed anyone. If you messed up he yanked you and cussed you.
Revisionist history much? Not trying to relitigate the firing, but Martin developed a bunch of players. The list is long and I don't feel like going back through it now, but for one example, did anyone think Michael Carrera would be 1st team all-SEC by the time he graduated? If a guy was able to stay and play several years for Martin, he would leave a much better player than he arrived.
Frank Martin is the winningest coach in Carolina basketball history. While it ended much differently than any of us wanted, I don't understand the need for Gamecock fans to trash what he did accomplish.
Yep, like I said, didn't want to rehash all that. I appreciate all Frank did for Carolina - that Final Four run is one of my favorite sports memories, period. There's no reason to take shots at Frank, especially shots that are just patently false. To say he didn't develop anyone during his time here is just absurd.I've never had any animosity towards Frank. He didn't do us wrong in any way. The relationship had simply run its course and change was needed. We knew what we had with Frank after a decade. We were mostly going to be ok. We had to decide if were ok with being just ok most years.
The same ones trash Spurrier.Revisionist history much? Not trying to relitigate the firing, but Martin developed a bunch of players. The list is long and I don't feel like going back through it now, but for one example, did anyone think Michael Carrera would be 1st team all-SEC by the time he graduated? If a guy was able to stay and play several years for Martin, he would leave a much better player than he arrived.
Frank Martin is the winningest coach in Carolina basketball history. While it ended much differently than any of us wanted, I don't understand the need for Gamecock fans to trash what he did accomplish.
The same ones trash Spurrier.
we were counting on him to be our big
Lack of basketball talent was his Major disadvantage. Intelligence played a strong consideration as well.we were counting on him to be our big
we were counting on him to be big.
Frank Martin is the winningest coach in Carolina basketball history. While it ended much differently than any of us wanted, I don't understand the need for Gamecock fans to trash what he did accomplish.
Why would you??? He was and is a piece of ****. He didn't get the name of FKING FAT FRANK here at Carolina, He was a KNOWN HS CHEATER in HS when in MIAMI. ABUSE??? ... A GRAND MASTER!!! POS??? EXCELLENT!!! COACH??? POS!!!I've never had any animosity towards Frank. He didn't do us wrong in any way.
So, we traded 7-footers with Mizzou?He has landed at Mizzou.
*Second winningest.Frank Martin is the winningest coach in Carolina basketball history.
This is a good take and I'm mostly the sameI've never had any animosity towards Frank. He didn't do us wrong in any way. The relationship had simply run its course and change was needed. We knew what we had with Frank after a decade. We were mostly going to be ok. We had to decide if were ok with being just ok most years.
LOL, yes. Although I'm going to look at it through the garnet colored glasses of, "we picked up a 4 star freshman in exchange for a 3 star senior who never unlocked his potential." I like Josh Gray and I wish he had stayed, but on paper I think we've gotten the better end of that transfer flow.So, we traded 7-footers with Mizzou?
I knew that, unsure why I didn't post it correctly lol. Glad you caught my error.*Second winningest.
- Frank McGuire: 283 wins at Carolina
- Frank Martin: 171 wins at Carolina