Keeping up with the Joneses in South Carolina…

[Maroon Eagle]

We Smiths here in Mississippi should be happy about the $10B announcement in Lauderdale County and the promise of more to come…

But the Joneses in South Carolina want to make teachers’ starting pay $50,000 — which will happen either this year or next year and larger than North Carolina and Georgia.

People here wonder about the brain drain.

You can’t call South Cacalacky that no more. They build up the big branes… ($1 to someone— that’s ancient rsfc schtick)

SC education officials ask legislators to raise teachers' starting pay to $50K in 2025 • SC Daily Gazette

The SC education agency's request to boost teachers' starting salaries to $50,000 would fulfill Gov. Henry McMaster's goal a year early.

scdailygazette.com

 

[NWADawg]

We Smiths here in Mississippi should be happy about the $10B announcement in Lauderdale County and the promise of more to come…

But the Joneses in South Carolina want to make teachers’ starting pay $50,000 — which will happen either this year or next year and larger than North Carolina and Georgia.

People here wonder about the brain drain.

You can’t call South Cacalacky that no more. They build up the big branes… ($1 to someone— that’s ancient rsfc schtick)

SC education officials ask legislators to raise teachers' starting pay to $50K in 2025 • SC Daily Gazette

The SC education agency's request to boost teachers' starting salaries to $50,000 would fulfill Gov. Henry McMaster's goal a year early.

scdailygazette.com

Arkansas did the same this past year. Guarantees a starting salary for all teachers at $50k minimum.

Apparently many school admins were not happy about the jump in payroll expense.

Biggest downside was that teachers with higher degrees and/or experience that already took them above $50k got nothing. So new teachers are now making about as much as what was the higher earning teachers.

 

[MSUDC11-2.0]

Arkansas did the same this past year. Guarantees a starting salary for all teachers at $50k minimum.

Apparently many school admins were not happy about the jump in payroll expense.

Biggest downside was that teachers with higher degrees and/or experience that already took them above $50k got nothing. So new teachers are now making about as much as what was the higher earning teachers.

Was just going to ask how that affected non-new teachers. My wife has a masters degree and almost 10 years of experience so she’s already over $50K.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Was just going to ask how that affected non-new teachers. My wife has a masters degree and almost 10 years of experience so she’s already over $50K.

Sounds like Arkansas needs to give autonomy to its school districts like South Carolina has done.

From the article I linked in the original post:

“Several years ago, legislators gave districts greater autonomy with their state aid. That allowed districts that already paid teachers above the state minimums to boost pay at their discretion, if at all.”

The big question: Do the districts have the money?

 

[GloryDawg]

Still not enough to have to put up with the crap teachers have to put up with. I would not last a week. I would go full Marine Corps Bootcamp on them and then be fired.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Good for the teachers. That's honestly the best quality of public schools - employment.

 

[The Cooterpoot]

I don't know that a pay raise in MS would make education better really. Teachers aren't allowed to just teach anymore. It's baby sitting, outlawed discipline, and the inability to eliminate the problem kids in the schools now. More and more kids are there to get a meal and disrupt the babysitting. Education has become these cute classrooms and ridiculous ideas of what it should be instead of just teaching, burning asses, and sending trouble packing like it used to be. All that said, teachers should make more money for putting up with kids, parents, and stupid government interference that prevents them from doing their jobs.

 

[Seinfeld]

The big question: Do the districts have the money?

For Arkansas, the districts didn’t have a choice, so it has resulted in cuts to various areas in most budgets in order to make this happen. Furthermore, the expanded voucher program that is happening parallel has complicated things as well.

I won’t pretend to be an expert on the matter, but my wife works for our school district(Lonoke), and our superintendent was not in favor of the LEARNS act that included the $50k salaries. Also, it was definitely not because he wasn’t in favor of better pay. He wasn’t in favor of the districts having to “figure it out” with minimal support from the state

 

[Maroon Eagle]

For Arkansas, the districts didn’t have a choice, so it has resulted in cuts to various areas in most budgets in order to make this happen. Furthermore, the expanded voucher program that is happening parallel has complicated things as well.

I won’t pretend to be an expert on the matter, but my wife works for our school district(Lonoke), and our superintendent was not in favor of the LEARNS act that included the $50k salaries. Also, it was definitely not because he wasn’t in favor of better pay. He wasn’t in favor of the districts having to “figure it out” with minimal support from the state

Mandates without Support: Lovely. **

 

[aTotal360]

Still not enough to have to put up with the crap teachers have to put up with. I would not last a week. I would go full Marine Corps Bootcamp on them and then be fired.

My mom is a retired public HS teacher in the Delta. She quit the 3rd time another parent told her that it was her fault that her kid was cheating. The parents are worse than the kids. It’s hard to blame the kids when every time they mess up their parents justify it. As others are saying…you can’t fundamentally teach some kids because their parents won’t allow it. They just view schools and teachers as babysitters. Not a place to sharpen skills.